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popoemt Mar 11, 2016 9:42 am

QQ:

Already GE, NEXUS interview coming up, once approved the letter says to wait for the NEXUS card (but), I have seen NEXUS cards and they are a GE card that says NEXUS. Will I be required to carry two cards, or does the NEXUS just attach itself to my GE card? Seems silly to have to wait for a physical card that I already have (just missing the word NEXUS on it).

JadedTraveler Mar 11, 2016 11:07 am


Originally Posted by popoemt (Post 26318349)
QQ:

Already GE, NEXUS interview coming up, once approved the letter says to wait for the NEXUS card (but), I have seen NEXUS cards and they are a GE card that says NEXUS. Will I be required to carry two cards, or does the NEXUS just attach itself to my GE card? Seems silly to have to wait for a physical card that I already have (just missing the word NEXUS on it).

This point I remember from the interview: Once you receive and activate your Nexus card your GE card becomes invalid or inactive (forget the exact words used), meaning you use Nexus card in place of GE card.

Interestingly I never found that point on any cbp website of FAQ list.

popoemt Mar 11, 2016 11:28 am


Originally Posted by JadedTraveler (Post 26318755)
This point I remember from the interview: Once you receive and activate your Nexus card your GE card becomes invalid or inactive (forget the exact words used), meaning you use Nexus card in place of GE card.

Interestingly I never found that point on any cbp website of FAQ list.

Hmmmm, thats interesting... I would feel strange when coming through customs from Europe with my NEXUS card only... Seems GE "should" trump NEXUS since it is more encompassing... I will probably keep the GE card with my PP just in case.

CKDGM Mar 11, 2016 1:37 pm


Originally Posted by popoemt (Post 26318852)
I would feel strange when coming through customs from Europe with my NEXUS card only...

In that situation you would use your passport at the Global Entry kiosk, not your NEXUS or GE card.


Originally Posted by popoemt (Post 26318852)
Seems GE "should" trump NEXUS since it is more encompassing... I will probably keep the GE card with my PP just in case.

It's actually the other way around; NEXUS is a superset of Global Entry. It includes all Global Entry benefits and additionally gives expedited processing when entering Canada (and access to NEXUS security lanes for flights within Canada).

AFAICT, the only reason that Global Entry cards even exist is that they can be used like NEXUS cards for land/sea entry into the US (but not into Canada); originally, GE didn't have cards.

popoemt Mar 11, 2016 2:27 pm


Originally Posted by CKDGM (Post 26319404)
In that situation you would use your passport at the Global Entry kiosk, not your NEXUS or GE card.



It's actually the other way around; NEXUS is a superset of Global Entry. It includes all Global Entry benefits and additionally gives expedited processing when entering Canada (and access to NEXUS security lanes for flights within Canada).

AFAICT, the only reason that Global Entry cards even exist is that they can be used like NEXUS cards for land/sea entry into the US (but not into Canada); originally, GE didn't have cards.

That's interesting, it definitely is marketed as though GE is the end all, and NEXUS is an add on for easier entry solely to Canada etc. Seems like it "should" be the other way around then, market NEXUS as the go to, heck, why even have two different GE products. Those who are getting GE probably have a higher percentage of traveling to Canada/Mexico at some point... Seems backwards in the way CBP markets these products. I would of rather just applied to NEXUS 1st, rather than GE, even if I wasn't planned for NA travel, I still would've justified it as an, "I might go".

Thanks for all the info and help.

seawolf Mar 11, 2016 3:36 pm


Originally Posted by popoemt (Post 26319616)
That's interesting, it definitely is marketed as though GE is the end all, and NEXUS is an add on for easier entry solely to Canada etc. Seems like it "should" be the other way around then, market NEXUS as the go to, heck, why even have two different GE products. Those who are getting GE probably have a higher percentage of traveling to Canada/Mexico at some point... Seems backwards in the way CBP markets these products. I would of rather just applied to NEXUS 1st, rather than GE, even if I wasn't planned for NA travel, I still would've justified it as an, "I might go".

Thanks for all the info and help.

GE has a larger market than NEXUS as the later requires an interview at the Northern border. GE can be enrolled at many international airports nationwide.

emcampbe Mar 11, 2016 5:05 pm


Originally Posted by popoemt (Post 26319616)
That's interesting, it definitely is marketed as though GE is the end all, and NEXUS is an add on for easier entry solely to Canada etc. Seems like it "should" be the other way around then, market NEXUS as the go to, heck, why even have two different GE products. Those who are getting GE probably have a higher percentage of traveling to Canada/Mexico at some point... Seems backwards in the way CBP markets these products. I would of rather just applied to NEXUS 1st, rather than GE, even if I wasn't planned for NA travel, I still would've justified it as an, "I might go".

Thanks for all the info and help.

Much larger market for GE in the US than Nexus. So they promote that, mostly in the US. Tons of folks travel regularly to EU, Asia, etc. but don't go to Canada at all or enough to make Nexus worth it - which does require an interview at an office inside Canada, or at a minimum at or near the border. Most people wouldn't use the extra privileges Nexus gives you (though if you're willing to go for an interview...many would probably appreciate the fact that the fee for Nexus is only $50/5 years vs. $100 for GE).

On the other hand, more Canadians have the US in part of their international travel plans than Americans do for Canada. So they promote Nexus more there. There is still CanPass (I think), which is the equivalent Canadian-only program, but at the same cost as Nexus, I don't know why anyone would get set up for it, unless someone was ineligible for some reason (i.e. have a felony in the US that would pretty much disqualify them from Nexus, but no criminal record in Canada), then there probably isn't much point to it.

bruceba Mar 11, 2016 6:11 pm


Originally Posted by CKDGM (Post 26319404)
In that situation you would use your passport at the Global Entry kiosk, not your NEXUS or GE card.



It's actually the other way around; NEXUS is a superset of Global Entry. It includes all Global Entry benefits and additionally gives expedited processing when entering Canada (and access to NEXUS security lanes for flights within Canada).

AFAICT, the only reason that Global Entry cards even exist is that they can be used like NEXUS cards for land/sea entry into the US (but not into Canada); originally, GE didn't have cards.

UK folk do not get global entry cards.

JadedTraveler Mar 11, 2016 8:13 pm


Originally Posted by CKDGM (Post 26319404)
In that situation you would use your passport at the Global Entry kiosk, not your NEXUS or GE card.
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True. I did have to look this up on the CBP website, link:


Entering the United States

All NEXUS members can enjoy the benefits of Global Entry at no additional cost through using the Global Entry kiosks for entry at participating airports.

When using the Global Entry kiosks in Canada Preclearance locations you can use your passport, U.S. Lawful Permanent Resident card or NEXUS card. You cannot use your NEXUS card at Global Entry kiosks outside of Canadian Preclearance locations. At all other ports, you will need to use your passport or U.S. Lawful Permanent Resident card.

If you are traveling with persons into Canada or the United States that are not NEXUS members, you must use the regular lanes.

pa3lsvt Mar 12, 2016 5:27 am

CBP agent told me (at my NEXUS interview) "there would be trouble" that if I used my old GE card once my NEXUS card arrived and was activated.

When I asked him to clarify, he said it would be seen as using a fraudulent card since the GE card was invalid upon NEXUS activation, and I would face program revocation. His advice was to destroy the GE card to prevent any potential for mistakes since the cards have the same format.

jerryhung Mar 12, 2016 9:08 am

Turns out changing citizenship/passport info on NEXUS (from PR to Canadian citizen) ->
they take your NEXUS card right away
you have to apply for a new card and pay $25 :(

Kiraly Mar 12, 2016 10:18 am


Originally Posted by emcampbe (Post 26320178)
There is still CanPass (I think), which is the equivalent Canadian-only program, but at the same cost as Nexus, I don't know why anyone would get set up for it

CANPASS is actually five times the cost of NEXUS. CANPASS must be renewed annually at $50/year. The $50 application fee for NEXUS is good for 5-6 years. And even then, CANPASS doesn't get you to the shorter line at airport security. NEXUS is still needed for that.

Being deemed ineligible for NEXUS by the U.S. would be the only reason for a Canadian to enroll in CANPASS.

ginoa724 Mar 13, 2016 8:32 pm

I wasn't sure if this has already been asked, but has anyone else had issues with their DL info updating in GOES? I've tried updating it a few times and it keeps showing my expired DL from my old state.

Also, do you have to visit in-person if you've moved? Or is updating your mailing address online sufficient?

Kiraly Mar 14, 2016 11:21 am

I couldn't update my DL in GOES; I had to visit an office in person. Some members report having their DL info removed entirely when updating in person, with the agents saying it really isn't needed.

There is conflicting information from Canadian/US authorities about whether address changes require a visit in person. Canada says no, updating in GOES is enough. But the US says while using GOES is fine for a mailing address, you do need to visit in person for changes to your residential/permanent address.

jerryhung Mar 15, 2016 12:11 pm


Originally Posted by jerryhung (Post 26322375)
Turns out changing citizenship/passport info on NEXUS (from PR to Canadian citizen) ->
they take your NEXUS card right away
you have to apply for a new card and pay $25 :(

Another update, updated NEXUS passport info Friday
and Monday TSA PreCheck is already on the BP (didn't have PreCheck before with non-Canadian passport)

That's quick and good surprise to have


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