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Nfldflyer Dec 18, 2012 5:23 pm

nexus line
 

Originally Posted by alexthe5th (Post 19875191)
At my interview today, the US officer told me that if I have anything to declare, it makes more sense to bypass the machine and go directly to the crew line. Is this actually possible? I was under the impression that the crew line was only usable by NEXUS holders if the machines are down.

That is interesting. Good to know if others have tried this option if they have items to declare.

bostonoski Dec 19, 2012 9:12 am


Originally Posted by bha (Post 19881312)
Neither officer even hesitated and basically said "yeah, you're fine". They didn't have to check with others, look it up, or anything else.

It seemed like it was 'obvious'. The CBSA officer made it sound almost like "you have a valid NEXUS card, why are you bugging us with your stupid question? Just use your nexus card!"

So hopefully their colleagues .. uh.. "share their opinion" :)

My understanding is that passports when crossing the US/Canada border are just a form of ID. As long as it's recent and is you, they don't seem to care if it's expired.

I know this sounds odd, but the way I found out was that I was visiting Canada, but I had to be picked up in the US by my friend. He drove across the border, on his Canadian passport and picked me up and we went back over. Same day trip for him, so he wasn't allowed duty-free I remember (an aside: no idea how they track that - they never seem to know when you left one country to enter the other!),

When we were on the way back to his house after the border, I randomly looked at his passport... and saw it was expired by a few months! We were both shocked... No one at either border crossing had said anything, though surely their system could have told them it was expired even if they had not read the first page?! We then checked it out and were told that it was ok to cross with an expired passport.

Strange, but apparently true.

canadiancow Dec 19, 2012 10:58 am


Originally Posted by bostonoski (Post 19886304)
My understanding is that passports when crossing the US/Canada border are just a form of ID. As long as it's recent and is you, they don't seem to care if it's expired.

I know this sounds odd, but the way I found out was that I was visiting Canada, but I had to be picked up in the US by my friend. He drove across the border, on his Canadian passport and picked me up and we went back over. Same day trip for him, so he wasn't allowed duty-free I remember (an aside: no idea how they track that - they never seem to know when you left one country to enter the other!),

When we were on the way back to his house after the border, I randomly looked at his passport... and saw it was expired by a few months! We were both shocked... No one at either border crossing had said anything, though surely their system could have told them it was expired even if they had not read the first page?! We then checked it out and were told that it was ok to cross with an expired passport.

Strange, but apparently true.

I could be way off on this, but I believe the passport requirement was added just to ensure that you were actually a Canadian citizen entering the US (or vice versa). With just a driver's license or whatever they required in the past, it didn't confirm citizenship and identity. A passport is one of the very few documents that is good for both. As a Canadian citizen, you do not need a visa to enter the United States, so I guess as long as they can confirm you are a Canadian citizen (and you are who you say you are), they'll let you in.

But I wouldn't count on this. If you're crossing a border, bring a valid passport.

PhotoJim Dec 19, 2012 11:32 am

For a land crossing, NEXUS is all that's required so I don't think you need to have a valid passport. (You need one to get NEXUS, and you're in the middle of renewing, anyway.)

I wouldn't expect that it should create any problems for a land crossing. It's a different story for flying where you absolutely must have your passport with you.

bostonoski Dec 19, 2012 11:37 am


Originally Posted by canadiancow (Post 19887058)
... so I guess as long as they can confirm you are a Canadian citizen (and you are who you say you are), they'll let you in.

But I wouldn't count on this. If you're crossing a border, bring a valid passport.

Yes. I should have said this... while my friend was relieved it wasn't a problem, he was a little spooked about the potential for 'issues' (and renewed the next day).

bostonoski Dec 19, 2012 8:19 pm

Sounds like this story is about a guy who has now lost his Nexus (if not GE? I don't know which they do for Mexico...)

http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/art...ng-4104245.php

bill12 Dec 19, 2012 8:44 pm


Originally Posted by bostonoski (Post 19890426)
Sounds like this story is about a guy who has now lost his Nexus (if not GE? I don't know which they do for Mexico...)

http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/art...ng-4104245.php

Probably SENTRI.

NA-Flyer Dec 20, 2012 1:49 am


Originally Posted by PhotoJim (Post 19887280)
For a land crossing, NEXUS is all that's required so I don't think you need to have a valid passport. (You need one to get NEXUS, and you're in the middle of renewing, anyway.)

Or a valid EDL.

canadiancow Dec 20, 2012 10:09 am


Originally Posted by PhotoJim (Post 19887280)
For a land crossing, NEXUS is all that's required so I don't think you need to have a valid passport. (You need one to get NEXUS, and you're in the middle of renewing, anyway.)

I wouldn't expect that it should create any problems for a land crossing. It's a different story for flying where you absolutely must have your passport with you.

But your NEXUS card stops being valid when your passport expires.

flyquiet Dec 20, 2012 11:39 am


Originally Posted by canadiancow (Post 19893530)
But your NEXUS card stops being valid when your passport expires.

That's what I thought as well. So, if the land border crossing involves scanning the NEXUS card, then won't the machine say "Bingo!" ? In that circumstance, I would cross with the expired passport as ID and keep the Nexus safely shielded in its copper-lined snuggie.

Safe to say, we are all interested to find out how it goes for the OP.

jantaoYVR Dec 20, 2012 1:57 pm

I just did this last week
 

Originally Posted by flyquiet (Post 19894131)
That's what I thought as well. So, if the land border crossing involves scanning the NEXUS card, then won't the machine say "Bingo!" ? In that circumstance, I would cross with the expired passport as ID and keep the Nexus safely shielded in its copper-lined snuggie.

Safe to say, we are all interested to find out how it goes for the OP.

I crossed successfully both at Whirlpool (south) and Rainbow (north) bridges using only NEXUS card but with expired passport - no one blinked an eye. I declared way over my exemption and had to pay HST - and again no issues inside.

PhotoJim Dec 20, 2012 3:15 pm


Originally Posted by canadiancow (Post 19893530)
But your NEXUS card stops being valid when your passport expires.

I'm not sure that's true. Remember, you don't require a passport to visit the US by ground, you only require WHTI-compliant identification.

jmbjmbjmb Dec 20, 2012 4:56 pm


Originally Posted by PhotoJim (Post 19895550)
I'm not sure that's true. Remember, you don't require a passport to visit the US by ground, you only require WHTI-compliant identification.

I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere on this thread that there's something that pops up on the screen of the border agent saying you have an expired document. But what you say is absolutely true, you only need an approved document. So, the flag may only be a warning and not something that would make you inadmissible to the US.

canadiancow Dec 20, 2012 7:13 pm


Originally Posted by jmbjmbjmb (Post 19896165)
I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere on this thread that there's something that pops up on the screen of the border agent saying you have an expired document. But what you say is absolutely true, you only need an approved document. So, the flag may only be a warning and not something that would make you inadmissible to the US.

That's a good point.

I guess it's more accurate to say that your NEXUS card is only valid in situations that require a passport as long as your passport is valid.

So you couldn't fly with a NEXUS card linked to an expired passport, because for air travel, you need the passport. I wonder if the machines would flag you in that situation.

zkzkz Dec 20, 2012 8:46 pm


Originally Posted by xero9 (Post 19870344)
I had read about someone on here who managed to score a back to back appointment. It's only of those one in a million occurrences though :P

The FAQ is perfectly clear on how to handle family appointments. You need N appointment slots on the same day for N family members. They do not need to be consecutive, just on the same day. You'll all be seen together at the time of the first appointment.


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