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todd-r Mar 7, 2008 9:33 pm

And this document illustrates how the agent is supposed to enter the APIS information, depending on the document presented.

emcampbe Mar 8, 2008 8:09 am


Originally Posted by todd-r (Post 9376106)
Click for a copy of the Carrier Information Guide. This is the guide published by US Customs and Border Protection covering all Documentary Requirements for Travel in and out of the USA.

Actually, according to this US CBP guide, it appears that a Nexus card is only valid ID/documentation for US Citizens, and not Canadians.

From the arrival by air portion:

A. U.S. CITIZENS - must provide one of the following:
- U.S. Passport
- NEXUS Card (To be used only at designated NEXUS locations)
- U.S. Government issued transportation letter

Canadian Nationals
- Passport required
- Exempt Visa requirements with the exception of E, V and K nonimmigrant visa classifications

Yes, I saw that the Canadian guide says it is acceptable for arrival to the US by air, and I know it is WHTI compliant. But seriously, its not an argument I want to get into with anyone from US CBP. If you're coming back to Canada and get the guy to look it up, you may be covered, and I am as a US Citizen coming back to the US. But as a Canadian citizen, I wouldn't want to get in a debate with US CBP on the validity of a Nexus card, esp. considering that the US book doesn't have it as valid ID for Canadians (even though it should be).

Make it easy on yourself, bring the passport in case, and leave it in your pocket or whatever.

lcohen999 Mar 8, 2008 8:36 am

You could also look at it this way, you should always have your passport with you when you are not in your home country, you just never know

californiadreamin' Mar 11, 2008 11:28 am


Originally Posted by fly-yul (Post 9368942)
The NEXUS Card is a WHTI-Compliant Travel Document.

However explaining this to a CBSA or CBP agent may be very hard. Bring your passport.

As for the gate agent when boarding from the US, I use my NEXUS card often. A couple of times I have been asked for my passport and I simply point out that my passport number is on the front of the NEXUS card. The agent's goal is to match the APIS information you provided at check-in with something. Once they realise that the passport number is on the card, they have always said ok.

Some earier NEXUS cards do not have expiration dates, this could also be cause for rejection. Even longtime US permanent residents with undated "green-cards" will soon have to have them reissued.

CarNut Mar 12, 2008 8:12 am

Has anyone else heard anything about the Nexus program expanding within the next 18 months to include 11 Western Hemisphere countries?

fly-yul Mar 12, 2008 9:24 am


Originally Posted by todd-r (Post 9376117)
And this document illustrates how the agent is supposed to enter the APIS information, depending on the document presented.

According to the document you can use your NEXUS card "Pass ID" for APIS.
I have never seen this option when doing an online check-in for AC.

Maybe AC should update there APIS system to include NEXUS!?

Currently I provide my passport info for online check-in and then show my NEXUS card when needed since it has the passport number on it.

Edit to add: Actually they contradict themselves. On Page 58 of the document they indicated that a NESUS card is ok for a Canadian arriving by air (at a kiosk)

fly-yul Mar 12, 2008 9:28 am


Originally Posted by emcampbe (Post 9377345)
...Canadian Nationals
- Passport required
- Exempt Visa requirements with the exception of E, V and K nonimmigrant visa classifications

This sort of makes sense since the section is "arrival by air." You can't currently arrive by air in the US and use NEXUS. It is only available at pre-clearance locations. Why they list it for US citizens makes no sense thought.

Did anyone notice on page 13 that an "oral declaration" is valid for Canadians at land and sea borders!

mattm00se Mar 15, 2008 3:23 am

Both machines in T3 pre-clearance are down atm, the first one the cbp officer said had been down for a few days, waiting for cbsa to come login. The second one broke *right* before me - Curious to see how long it takes them to get fixed..INSPass used to take quite some time ;)

mattm00se Mar 15, 2008 3:43 am


Originally Posted by guessaaa (Post 9366708)
In EWR, the gate agent didn't want to take my Nexus card as valid ID, but after insisting it IS valid, she asked a flight attendant for the flight to YUL whether it was ok, and it was.

In all the documentation I've seen, a nexus card is a valid WHTI air document *only* when used in combination with a nexus kiosk - which makes me think the agent was probably correct.

... Although I suspect the language should probably be interpreted as "When used at a location with a nexus kiosk" since there's no way for a check-in agent to know what you're going to do once you get inside pre-clearance ;)

goaliemn Mar 16, 2008 6:42 pm

I didn't make it to my interview at yyz saturday.. called the number listed and got referred to another number, only open mon-fri. Ugh. I'm hoping I don't have to repay to reschedule my interview.. darn full flights with spring break :(

zorn Mar 16, 2008 8:16 pm

My interview is coming up soon. I rechecked the date.

March 21.

Good Friday? :confused: Will they be open?

I'll call tomorrow to check.

It's actually a great date for me. I don't even have to take time off work.

lcohen999 Mar 22, 2008 10:03 am

Just a reminder, I did YYZ-LGA on the 18th. The Nexus machines were down, they had a dedicated lane for Nexus members, however a passport was required.

There were about three people in front of me who did not have their passport. They were allowed to go through, but through secondary. The border agent did not seem very amused with the same excuse over and over again.

So, to reiterate, you NEED a passport, all the time.

ALW Mar 22, 2008 8:13 pm

Sorry to bring this up again, but I can't find it.

To use NEXUS when connecting Canada -> US at YYZ on AC, no checked bags, at what point does one ignore the Connection directions and go landside? Or do we just ignore them completely, head for Arrivals, then head for Departures?

I assume it's always better to do this than to follow the Connections route, since even in the case where it's a shorter walk and a short lineup, one doesn't know that?

Thanks!
=aw

fly-yul Mar 22, 2008 8:38 pm


Originally Posted by ALW (Post 9449863)
Sorry to bring this up again, but I can't find it.

To use NEXUS when connecting Canada -> US at YYZ on AC, no checked bags, at what point does one ignore the Connection directions and go landside? Or do we just ignore them completely, head for Arrivals, then head for Departures?

I assume it's always better to do this than to follow the Connections route, since even in the case where it's a shorter walk and a short lineup, one doesn't know that?

Thanks!
=aw

Head outside secuirty to arrivals and then go to us deprtures.
Since you have no bags, no need to follow the signs to the connection entrance. About the same walk. It is around the corner from the connection entrance. Will be faster to use NEXUS.

ALW Mar 23, 2008 7:51 am

Thanks. I was hoping there was some "start down the connection path but at this point go left instead of right to get landside" but I'll just treat it as an arrival in YYZ and a departure from YYZ.

I guess going the other way (US->Canada) one has to go landside no matter what, so just follow the signs? Or is there a better connecting way that has dedicated security or something?

=aw


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