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RealHJ Feb 2, 2024 6:22 pm

Nexus appointments are only required for new applications or renewals that require an interview, correct? That is, for "maintenance" on an existing (not soon expiring) Nexus card, like adding (not editing, but adding) a passport or driver's license, which is not possible to do online, it is possible to just walk-in anytime, correct?

And it really can't be done at the more accessible GE locations or by US CBP officers at airport, correct?
(Twice I've had CBP officers manning the GE line try to update my info at airport, and they haven't been able to "because it's Nexus, not GE." Is it true that CBP and GE offices cannot do any maintenance updates to Nexus, like adding or editing an ID document?)

lensovet Feb 2, 2024 8:38 pm


Originally Posted by RealHJ (Post 35965478)
Nexus appointments are only required for new applications or renewals that require an interview, correct? That is, for "maintenance" on an existing (not soon expiring) Nexus card, like adding (not editing, but adding) a passport or driver's license, which is not possible to do online, it is possible to just walk-in anytime, correct?

And it really can't be done at the more accessible GE locations or by US CBP officers at airport, correct?
(Twice I've had CBP officers manning the GE line try to update my info at airport, and they haven't been able to "because it's Nexus, not GE." Is it true that CBP and GE offices cannot do any maintenance updates to Nexus, like adding or editing an ID document?)

All Nexus upgrades require information to be updated by both CBSA and CBP.

GE locations can't do anything about these.

If you want to make sure that everything is done at once and not have to worry about it, go to a land crossing that has both agents present, who can update your file and actually deal with Nexus members more than once a year.

Note that Nexus now supports enrollment on arrival for conditionally approved applicants, so it's possible that things work better now. Strangely, this information is only posted on the CBP website, and CBSA still says you can only do it at pre-clearance airports, which in my mind just underscores the fact that if you want to reliably get this done, just go to a land border crossing with both agents.

RealHJ Feb 3, 2024 2:03 am


Originally Posted by lensovet (Post 35965675)
All Nexus upgrades require information to be updated by both CBSA and CBP.

GE locations can't do anything about these.

If you want to make sure that everything is done at once and not have to worry about it, go to a land crossing that has both agents present, who can update your file and actually deal with Nexus members more than once a year.

Note that Nexus now supports enrollment on arrival for conditionally approved applicants, so it's possible that things work better now. Strangely, this information is only posted on the CBP website, and CBSA still says you can only do it at pre-clearance airports, which in my mind just underscores the fact that if you want to reliably get this done, just go to a land border crossing with both agents.

Thanks.

Does this mean that at airport and city locations (eg YVR, Vancouver) there is no CBP?

It’s really a hassle and very, very expensive still to rent car one way YVR to SEA (not to mention the tiresome drive), or vice versa. Not like pre-2020 anymore still to this day. Was really hoping since CBP can’t do it at US airports, that a Nexus airport or city location can do it.

BelmontRef Feb 3, 2024 2:32 am


Originally Posted by lensovet (Post 35965675)
All Nexus upgrades require information to be updated by both CBSA and CBP.

GE locations can't do anything about these.

Hmmm. Back in May, we were trying to update our NEXUS records with our new state's DLs. They wouldn't stick when we tried to do them on-line. NEXUS office at YVR did the CBSA part, asked CBP at YVR and they said while they can do interviews on arrival, they can't do updates but that the GE office at SFO (our destination) could. So three hours later, we went to the GE office at SFO and they did they updates.

YVR Cockroach Feb 3, 2024 9:42 am


Originally Posted by RealHJ (Post 35966018)
Does this mean that at airport and city locations (eg YVR, Vancouver) there is no CBP?

It’s really a hassle and very, very expensive still to rent car one way YVR to SEA (not to mention the tiresome drive), or vice versa. Not like pre-2020 anymore still to this day. Was really hoping since CBP can’t do it at US airports, that a Nexus airport or city location can do it.

CBP is present at YVR and all preclearance airports.

There actually used to be Nexus offices at YVR (still is apparently) and 2 locations (not at the same time) in the city which have now closed. Closest non-airport location these days is a little bit south of the 49th parallel by Birch Bay, much closer to YVR than SEA (little bit closer to PAE than SEA)

xobile Feb 4, 2024 8:21 am

I’m confused as to the recent posts worrying about updating the drivers license, which isn’t even required to apply for nexus and frankly not that big of deal if not updated. But when you do update you can do the entire thing online. The only reason you would need to update in person would be for a major change like a new citizenship or visa. A new DL or address doesn’t count in that.

BelmontRef Feb 4, 2024 10:47 am


Originally Posted by xobile (Post 35969011)
I’m confused as to the recent posts worrying about updating the drivers license, which isn’t even required to apply for nexus and frankly not that big of deal if not updated. But when you do update you can do the entire thing online. The only reason you would need to update in person would be for a major change like a new citizenship or visa. A new DL or address doesn’t count in that.

My experience is you can input DL updates online all you want but they never stick. Only having it updated in person at a US CBP office (a GE office in our cases) got the update showing online.

RealHJ Feb 4, 2024 11:15 am


Originally Posted by xobile (Post 35969011)
I’m confused as to the recent posts worrying about updating the drivers license, which isn’t even required to apply for nexus and frankly not that big of deal if not updated. But when you do update you can do the entire thing online. The only reason you would need to update in person would be for a major change like a new citizenship or visa. A new DL or address doesn’t count in that.

The problem arises when your DL expires between when you apply for renewal and when it is granted, which can take several years, especially recently with the stop of interviews for a long time and then the immense backlog. When your DL expires, it gets auto-removed from your profile and you have no DL, nothing to update. While your renewal is conditionally approved and you are waiting (for years, as it used to be) for interview, you cannot update anything (before conditional approval you can, but if it is renewed after conditional approval and before interview, which again has been a long period of a few years, then you cannot). So, since you cannot update it, when the DL "expires" (as you couldn't update its expiry date) it gets auto removed from your profile. There is no way to add it back then.

lensovet Feb 4, 2024 9:48 pm


Originally Posted by RealHJ (Post 35969477)
The problem arises when your DL expires between when you apply for renewal and when it is granted, which can take several years, especially recently with the stop of interviews for a long time and then the immense backlog. When your DL expires, it gets auto-removed from your profile and you have no DL, nothing to update. While your renewal is conditionally approved and you are waiting (for years, as it used to be) for interview, you cannot update anything (before conditional approval you can, but if it is renewed after conditional approval and before interview, which again has been a long period of a few years, then you cannot). So, since you cannot update it, when the DL "expires" (as you couldn't update its expiry date) it gets auto removed from your profile. There is no way to add it back then.

You can add it when you do your interview if you are conditionally approved?

lensovet Feb 4, 2024 9:49 pm


Originally Posted by YVR Cockroach (Post 35966732)
CBP is present at YVR and all preclearance airports.

There actually used to be Nexus offices at YVR (still is apparently) and 2 locations (not at the same time) in the city which have now closed. Closest non-airport location these days is a little bit south of the 49th parallel by Birch Bay, much closer to YVR than SEA (little bit closer to PAE than SEA)

It's "present" but the only way you can talk to them is by boarding a flight that departs from that airport.

The landside office at YVR is how I got NEXUS originally nearly 10 years ago. It had both CBP and CBSA agents. These days, you can apparently do your CBSA interview there and they might be able to update the paperwork, but the only way to get to CBP is to board a departing flight.

lensovet Feb 4, 2024 9:50 pm


Originally Posted by RealHJ (Post 35966018)
Thanks.

Does this mean that at airport and city locations (eg YVR, Vancouver) there is no CBP?

It’s really a hassle and very, very expensive still to rent car one way YVR to SEA (not to mention the tiresome drive), or vice versa. Not like pre-2020 anymore still to this day. Was really hoping since CBP can’t do it at US airports, that a Nexus airport or city location can do it.

I don't understand why you need to do a one-way car rental? Where are you based?

xobile Feb 5, 2024 6:11 am


Originally Posted by RealHJ (Post 35969477)
The problem arises when your DL expires between when you apply for renewal and when it is granted, which can take several years, especially recently with the stop of interviews for a long time and then the immense backlog. When your DL expires, it gets auto-removed from your profile and you have no DL, nothing to update. While your renewal is conditionally approved and you are waiting (for years, as it used to be) for interview, you cannot update anything (before conditional approval you can, but if it is renewed after conditional approval and before interview, which again has been a long period of a few years, then you cannot). So, since you cannot update it, when the DL "expires" (as you couldn't update its expiry date) it gets auto removed from your profile. There is no way to add it back then.

That may all be true. My point is that updating or even possessing a DL is not even required, let alone something you should work yourself into knots over, or especially something you should go out of your way to update in person. You don’t update your employment history in between renewals, for example, nor are required to, just like your license. The website effectively states that you only need to go in person for major changes and can do the others online. Whether or not it actually goes to both sides is not your concern and if not is frankly a failure on the respective IT departments, but ultimately not something in your control. Better to focus your time and energy on the actual in person updates that are needed.

canada619 Feb 19, 2024 12:32 pm

Im a new Nexus holder and I heard after TN refusal at the border, people got their Nexus revoked. As I understand, some status change applications trigger Nexus revocations.

Now I am considering sending I-130 petition with I-485 Adjustment of status inside of US after entering the US as tourist with my Canadian passport. Will that cause my Nexus to be revoked? Or should I choose consular processing for my US PR application?

I think entering to US as tourist then applying for greencard would be suspicious as tourist status does not have immigrant intent. Not sure if I should do it.

tuquee Feb 19, 2024 6:58 pm


Originally Posted by canada619 (Post 36012665)
Im a new Nexus holder and I heard after TN refusal at the border, people got their Nexus revoked. As I understand, some status change applications trigger Nexus revocations.

Now I am considering sending I-130 petition with I-485 Adjustment of status inside of US after entering the US as tourist with my Canadian passport. Will that cause my Nexus to be revoked? Or should I choose consular processing for my US PR application?

I think entering to US as tourist then applying for greencard would be suspicious as tourist status does not have immigrant intent. Not sure if I should do it.

I've had two instances where CBP declined to adjudicate my L-1B petition, one instance where USCIS refused my L-1B petition, and a single day where I had CBP deem my L-1A petition as deficient twice before approving it and admitting me on the third try. My NEXUS membership remained valid throughout (and the CBPO adjudicating my L-1A the third time was kind enough to update my NEXUS profile with the new class of admission). I wouldn't expect a rejection of a TN or other status application on its own to trigger a NEXUS revocation, unless CBP refused it for something like misrepresentation.

However, your plan to enter the USA as a tourist with intent to immigrate and conceal that intent from CBP is a bad idea, and you should not do it. That's the kind of misrepresentation that could result in a NEXUS revocation as well as being refused admission to the US.

canada619 Feb 19, 2024 9:00 pm


Originally Posted by tuquee (Post 36013625)
I've had two instances where CBP declined to adjudicate my L-1B petition, one instance where USCIS refused my L-1B petition, and a single day where I had CBP deem my L-1A petition as deficient twice before approving it and admitting me on the third try. My NEXUS membership remained valid throughout (and the CBPO adjudicating my L-1A the third time was kind enough to update my NEXUS profile with the new class of admission). I wouldn't expect a rejection of a TN or other status application on its own to trigger a NEXUS revocation, unless CBP refused it for something like misrepresentation.

However, your plan to enter the USA as a tourist with intent to immigrate and conceal that intent from CBP is a bad idea, and you should not do it. That's the kind of misrepresentation that could result in a NEXUS revocation as well as being refused admission to the US.


Did you apply Adjustment of status in USA? Because some people who did got their nexus revoked for some reason. Maybe if I apply from the embassy it wont be an issue


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