Alternatives when airline refuses to board due to passport's nationality.
Sep 16, 2014, 10:49 am
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This is obvious a planned fraud by the OP to seek some compensation from KA or priceline. She knew it was a Kuwaiti operated airline and claimed she didn't know about while you can see it was clear mentioned on the Kayak booking. Further she knew Kuwaiti will refuse her with an israeli passport. And while we would think she's in a stressful situation, she was here building her case. Shame on her!
Sep 16, 2014, 12:03 pm
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and what would be so wrong in deposing the saudi monarchy? just because woodrow wilson made a deal with the saud family at the league of nations conference when they were diviing up the world after the end of WW1, doesnt mean that it hasnt outlived its purpose.
I mean sure there's always a risk that doing that would turn saudi into the next iraq, post-saddam. or current-day egypt with sham democracy. but atleast its a step forward in perhaps the right direction.
I mean sure there's always a risk that doing that would turn saudi into the next iraq, post-saddam. or current-day egypt with sham democracy. but atleast its a step forward in perhaps the right direction.
You have answered your own question. I wouldn't say that there is a risk, but almost a certainty, which doesn't make it a "step forward in perhaps the right direction."
Sep 16, 2014, 12:09 pm
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Sep 16, 2014, 12:16 pm
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and what would be so wrong in deposing the saudi monarchy? just because woodrow wilson made a deal with the saud family at the league of nations conference when they were diviing up the world after the end of WW1, doesnt mean that it hasnt outlived its purpose.
I mean sure there's always a risk that doing that would turn saudi into the next iraq, post-saddam. or current-day egypt with sham democracy. but atleast its a step forward in perhaps the right direction.
I mean sure there's always a risk that doing that would turn saudi into the next iraq, post-saddam. or current-day egypt with sham democracy. but atleast its a step forward in perhaps the right direction.
Back on the topic, does EK accepts Israeli passports for its MXP-JFK route? How about for any of its fifth freedom Asian routes east of Bangladesh? And how about PK for MAN-JFK?
Given even we here for a long time don't know for sure, I wouldn't expect the OP to know all that goes on in these matters. Most of us assume that if our passports are good in the sending and receiving countries, then the passport will be accepted for travel. When a passport gets refused because an airline/airline rep makes an issue of it, it is indeed frustrating at the very least. Israeli passport or not.
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Sep 16, 2014, 3:00 pm
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Sep 16, 2014, 4:56 pm
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I recall that members have posted on FlyerTalk that EK will carry an Israeli passport holder, even transiting DXB.
Sep 16, 2014, 5:27 pm
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In my opinion, the blame for this incident is solely on the passenger. Every Israeli citizen is well aware that the country is not recognized by many Muslim nations, and it is common sense that airlines are regulated by their home governments which issue their operating certificates. As a US citizen, if I needed to fly Cubana or Iran Air for some reason, I would make doubly sure to look into all the details and make sure everything is in order well before departure.
The second issue is that it was a codeshare. I haven't booked on Priceline in a while, but every site that I have booked on clearly indicates the operating carrier on the schedule. It is not hidden in some fine print someplace, it is right there immediately following the flight number and timings. I don't see how one could miss it.
With that said, I am impressed with Kuwait Airways' resolution of the situation. It's far more than I would expect from most carriers.
Sep 16, 2014, 7:59 pm
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EK, EY and QR have apparently accepted Israeli passports even for transiting DXB, AUH or DOH. Not sure how systematic that has been, but it has taken place repeatedly.
Sep 16, 2014, 10:23 pm
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One wonders what the U.S. Government was really fighting for, when it joined (or, rather, created) the War of Kuwaiti Independence in 1990.
Freedom and democracy? Yeah, right. Welcome back, emir.
Airlines operating from the U.S. ought to be required to "recognize" the countries the U.S. recognizes, imo.
Freedom and democracy? Yeah, right. Welcome back, emir.
Airlines operating from the U.S. ought to be required to "recognize" the countries the U.S. recognizes, imo.
Sep 17, 2014, 9:31 am
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Sep 17, 2014, 11:17 am
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We should not defend monarchs who don't let people board a plane in or to the U.S., because they don't like the (non-monarchical) country they're from.
Sep 17, 2014, 11:29 am
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"Allies" are a euphemism for parties who will sell you to a brothel kingpin as soon as the alignment of shared strategic/material interests shifts substantially enough that it can be done to make them better off at your expense and get away with it.
The US has no allies, just partners of convenience for some shared strategic interests that also help to keep the peace and prosperity at home.
If the major 3 GCC airlines can fly Israelis, there is no reason to expect things to be different when flying this airline between the US and UK.
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Sep 17, 2014, 11:32 am
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Just a random, related question. Does the US restrict who can board a flight on its carriers that don't touch the country? For example, if someone on the no-fly list books BOM-AMS-MSP on DL, would they get blocked from boarding at BOM, or would they be allowed to fly the first segment and then get stranded at AMS?