GUWonder

This flight tends to be the cheapest option rather frequently; for whatever reason, that speaks to lots of people not even considering this airline.

bocastephen

I didn't filter through the 11 pages of postings, but did Priceline show the codeshare information at any time during the booking process, or the post purchase receipt? If not, that is a violation of DOT regulations and they have been on the warpath recently over this issue - the fine is likely US$250,000 (even mom/pop agencies were hit by this), so please file a DOT complaint and push them to levy the codeshare violation fine against Priceline.

guv1976

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry: BlackBerry8530/5.0.0.1030 Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/417)

"I didn't filter through the 11 pages of postings, but did Priceline show the codeshare information at any time during the booking process, or the post purchase receipt?"

See Post #17.

muishkin

I don't see how a successful boycott against KU could form. I think even the freedom fries idiots had a better chance to advance their cause. First the awareness of this situation is very low. You'll need spend a lot to raise that awareness, which is already a gigantic undertaking by itself. Second the majority of people, even if they were aware, will probably be too apathetic to participate - especially since KU flights are cheap.

gglave

Yes, too simplistic.

However it is reasonable for your government to deny them landing rights at US Airports until they discard their anti-semitic BS.

HkCaGu

The PRC does not recognize ROC passports. Taiwanese need to get a PRC-issued document to travel to Mainland China.

However, CA can sell XXX-PEK-TPE. And they say on their website Taiwanese must have both "Chinese Taipei passport" and Mainland Travel Permit (to transit PEK).

CA is of course state-owned. But it recognizes documents of an unrecognized government.

moondog

I'm pretty sure that the government's share is down to around the 50% mark now.

bocastephen

Guilty as charged

Well, the disclosure certainly meets the DOT regulation test - there is no requirement for a travel agent to inform a customer about an airline's nationality policies, although it makes good business sense to do so.

A brick/mortar agency would certainly be aware of this and guide their client, but when using an online agency, a certain degree of compliance burden is shifted to the customer.

sethb

The actual rule is that the receiving country has to allow the passenger in, with whatever documentation the passenger provides. If someone isn't eligible to enter a particular country, then an airline does not have to (and should not) transport him there.

That's completely irrelevant to this issue, where OP's documentation was perfectly acceptable to all countries (departing, transit, and arriving) involved.

Kuwait has nothing to do with this. The passenger wasn't flying to or through Kuwait. Kuwait happens to own a lot of stock in the airline, that's all.

If Britain allowed people in with a JLA card, then an airline would be willing to fly you there when you showed yours.

The airline is lying. The only entities whose beliefs on the subject matter are the arriving countries. They say the passport is valid.

They discriminated on the basis of nationality. Any attempt to claim otherwise is completely and obviously bogus.

"We're not discriminating against you on the basis of race, we just don't consider any black people's passports to be valid." That claim is equally valid.

If Britain accepted the Waco passports for entry into Britain, then an airline should accept them as valid for travel to Britain.

cbn42

The airline is domiciled in Kuwait and is therefore subject to Kuwaiti law. When Delta flies from AMS to BOM, they still have to follow certain US laws.

Not necessarily. For example, if you attempt to fly DUB-LHR on Ryanair and show your UK driver's license at check in, you will be denied boarding, even though the UK government accepts it as a valid document and you would have no problem on any other airline.

If you accept that Israel is a nation, then yes. However, Kuwait, like any other country, has the right to decide which nations it recognizes as legitimate. If they do not recognize the nation, then they are not discriminating on the basis of nationality. Try to keep in mind that not everyone sees the world the same way you do, and your view is not automatically superior because you believe it to be so.

That is not equally valid, because countries would have the same agency issuing passports to blacks and non-blacks. A foreign nation would have to either recognize the nation (and its passports) or not. Honoring some passports and not others, when they were issued by the same country, would be discrimination against the individual.

No, see example above.

GUWonder

US airlines routinely prohibit passengers from flying from the US to Canada without a passport even when the Canadians haven't required a passport to admit the passenger. Thank the US Government for this still-ongoing absurdity under the US WHTI.

Anti-semitic airline? Who knows. The airline certainly doesn't refuse to fly all those who practice Judaism. Jewish Americans can fly it just fine on a US passport and do so from time to time, seemingly without incident most times.

The airline refuses to fly all people using just an Israeli passport. Even if the Israeli passport was issued to a Thai Buddhist, a Tamil Hindu, a Bengali Muslim, or an Armenian Christian, the person won't be able to fly this airline on an Israeli passport. Seems like it would be more accurately described as an anti-Israel discriminatory policy rather than as an example of an anti-Semitic policy.

gglave

When I see a bird that walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, I call that bird a duck.

GUWonder

Given Jewish passengers with UK and/or US passports are allowed on this Kuwaiti flight, how is allowing such passengers evidence of anti-semitism? It doesn't walk, swim, or quack like that duck.

relangford

Just wondering: how does a citizen of Crimea travel to/from the USA or UK? Russian passport? Ukraine passport? Stateless Person documents?

GUWonder

Russian or Ukrainian passport unless in possession of an alternative travel document issued by a state or organization recognized by the US and/or UK as issuing valid travel documents for purposes of admissibility to the US and/or UK. If flying a Ukrainian or Russian carrier, it may be more complicated. I know the Ukrainian government wanted to make it more complicated by criminalizing possession or use of a Russian passport if the person were considered by it to be a Ukrainian national. Not sure if the current Ukrainian government came to its senses and stopped trying to advance that into law or rescinded it, but they threatened it.

Most people born in Crimea seem entitled to a Russian passport. At least a million Crimeans have been given Russian passports this year.