Seat Swap Request Horror Stories
#721
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That's the wrong standard. It doesn't matter whether YOU think the swap is at least neutral. It's what the person you're asking to swap thinks. Everybody has their own reasons for choosing the seat that they do and deciding whether to switch or not. The standard is subjective and most certainly NOT determined by someone else who is asking a favor.
#722
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http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...-upgrades.html
I'd be all for it, but it just doesn't happen the way you think it does.
Last edited by LondonElite; Apr 21, 2016 at 1:50 pm
#723
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As it is the airline's call, not yours, re: whether your actions "interfere with the safe operation of the aircraft," yes. You can be arrested for pretty much anything -- even things that in your view are perfectly benign. So keep your head down.
#724
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The crew can call the applicable law enforcement agency and ask them to take you into custody upon landing. The law enforcement agency will do so on their request. You might be able to argue your way out of their hands on this basis after the fact, but not immediately. If you do, which is far from certain, you may be able to claim that you were not technically arrested - but you will surely go through a lot of hassle and waste a lot of time until that happens.
#725
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 287
Today a good reminder to board as early as possible. I am in 9C (an aisle). A large group of non-English speaking passengers board. Two are in the middle and window next to me, one is in the middle across the aisle (9E). As I stood up to let in the two next to me, they brusquely gestured at the middle seat across the aisle and waved to their friend to take my seat. Nope. Why would I do that? But I Have a feeling had I not boarded earlier, I would have found them firmly settled and would have had to have a bit more of a to-do.
#726
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 600
Today a good reminder to board as early as possible. I am in 9C (an aisle). A large group of non-English speaking passengers board. Two are in the middle and window next to me, one is in the middle across the aisle (9E). As I stood up to let in the two next to me, they brusquely gestured at the middle seat across the aisle and waved to their friend to take my seat. Nope. Why would I do that? But I Have a feeling had I not boarded earlier, I would have found them firmly settled and would have had to have a bit more of a to-do.
#727
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...and another equipment substitution, this one months out.
We had non-exit bulkheads 3 on one side, one across on the other side. Of course, no notification from their airline, and when I look (for another schedule change on the itinerary) we're split 2 and 2, two of us in a non-exit bulkhead, two way back behind the wing.
And the aisle on the other bulkhead was taken, as was the aisle one row back.
Right now, I've switched it to 7AB/8BC and the poor schlub in 7C is going to LOVE all the traffic handing things back and forth, and the poor schlub in 8A is going to like it even less. I could take 7ABC,7F, but what are the odds that 7D is going to be willing to trade? (non-zero, since there is a reasonable access to the aisle, but it's not super.)
We had non-exit bulkheads 3 on one side, one across on the other side. Of course, no notification from their airline, and when I look (for another schedule change on the itinerary) we're split 2 and 2, two of us in a non-exit bulkhead, two way back behind the wing.
And the aisle on the other bulkhead was taken, as was the aisle one row back.
Right now, I've switched it to 7AB/8BC and the poor schlub in 7C is going to LOVE all the traffic handing things back and forth, and the poor schlub in 8A is going to like it even less. I could take 7ABC,7F, but what are the odds that 7D is going to be willing to trade? (non-zero, since there is a reasonable access to the aisle, but it's not super.)
Last edited by nkedel; Apr 27, 2016 at 10:57 am
#728
Join Date: Jan 2010
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I can't imagine going out to make a blameless guy's (7C's) journey into a nightmare.
#729
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There are no good options that keep any of the bulkhead seats, and the only rows with ABC-D or C-DEF are quite a ways further back. Any other option is going to have either one of the adults too far away to assist, or 2-and-2 in separate rows with someone stuck in the same row as kids.
#730
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: PHL
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...and another equipment substitution, this one months out.
We had non-exit bulkheads 3 on one side, one across on the other side. Of course, no notification from their airline, and when I look (for another schedule change on the itinerary) we're split 2 and 2, two of us in a non-exit bulkhead, two way back behind the wing.
And the aisle on the other bulkhead was taken, as was the aisle one row back.
Right now, I've switched it to 7AB/8BC and the poor schlub in 7C is going to LOVE all the traffic handing things back and forth, and the poor schlub in 8A is going to like it even less. I could take 7ABC,7F, but what are the odds that 7D is going to be willing to trade? (non-zero, since there is a reasonable access to the aisle, but it's not super.)
We had non-exit bulkheads 3 on one side, one across on the other side. Of course, no notification from their airline, and when I look (for another schedule change on the itinerary) we're split 2 and 2, two of us in a non-exit bulkhead, two way back behind the wing.
And the aisle on the other bulkhead was taken, as was the aisle one row back.
Right now, I've switched it to 7AB/8BC and the poor schlub in 7C is going to LOVE all the traffic handing things back and forth, and the poor schlub in 8A is going to like it even less. I could take 7ABC,7F, but what are the odds that 7D is going to be willing to trade? (non-zero, since there is a reasonable access to the aisle, but it's not super.)
#731
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Exclusively OMNI/PR, for Reasons
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None of which involved an actual change in class of service, other than one C passenger assuming that her one Business seat entitles her to three in Y.
#732
Join Date: Jan 2010
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Now by your own admission there are suitable seats further back.
#733
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Have a read of this thread. Despite all the tough talk, nothing ever happens in the instances.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...-upgrades.html
I'd be all for it, but it just doesn't happen the way you think it does.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...-upgrades.html
I'd be all for it, but it just doesn't happen the way you think it does.
#734
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#735
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Basically nothing. And it has been reported on the BA thread (by employees) that the airline is pretty much unable to do anything about this. I of course don't agree with it, but it seems like the tough approach actually doesn't work. Other airlines may be different.