Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion.
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Good Morning from chilly Alaska! After spending an extra four hours on the road yesterday while two landslides and a washout were dealt with, I returned home late last night to find that FINALLY our IT problems appear to have been successfully addressed. This morning I have a good strong connection allowing me to once again dart about the web with vim and vigor.
As for the coming days' forecast:
http://www.wunderground.com/us/ak/denali-national-park
16. What type of aircraft was Alaska Airlines operating into Gustavus, Alaska (GST) in early 1976?
I'm going to guess they were operating a Grumman Goose. Alaska also operated some Twin Otters around the southeast, but let's go with the Goose...
17. Also in 1976, this U.S. based airline was operating daily service into Guaymas, Mexico (GYM). Name the airline and identify the aircraft type used by this air carrier to serve Guaymas. And here's a hint: this service was not operated by a commuter airline.
I'm reasonably certain this was Hughes Airwest, operating a DC-9 from Phoenix. I always had an interest in Guaymas because we vacationed there in 1967. We did not fly there on that trip, though. Instead we loaded up the family station wagon - complete with Sunfish sailboat strapped to the top - and drove from Colorado all the way down. I also had a long standing interest in Hughes Airwest and its bright yellow airplanes, having flown into or visited many of the airports it served around California and Arizona.
As for the coming days' forecast:
http://www.wunderground.com/us/ak/denali-national-park
16. What type of aircraft was Alaska Airlines operating into Gustavus, Alaska (GST) in early 1976?
I'm going to guess they were operating a Grumman Goose. Alaska also operated some Twin Otters around the southeast, but let's go with the Goose...
17. Also in 1976, this U.S. based airline was operating daily service into Guaymas, Mexico (GYM). Name the airline and identify the aircraft type used by this air carrier to serve Guaymas. And here's a hint: this service was not operated by a commuter airline.
I'm reasonably certain this was Hughes Airwest, operating a DC-9 from Phoenix. I always had an interest in Guaymas because we vacationed there in 1967. We did not fly there on that trip, though. Instead we loaded up the family station wagon - complete with Sunfish sailboat strapped to the top - and drove from Colorado all the way down. I also had a long standing interest in Hughes Airwest and its bright yellow airplanes, having flown into or visited many of the airports it served around California and Arizona.
Looks like fall has arrived at Denali with old man winter just around the corner....
Deep blue skies and 86 degrees F here at present at the Acadiana Regional Airport (ARA) with very low humidity (38%) for this time of year in south Louisiana. Temps were in the low 60s F in spots in the area earlier this morning following the passage of our first cool front of the season yesterday.
Now if we can just dodge any potential tropical weather systems in the Caribbean while we are visiting Jamaica this coming week......
16. The Grumman Goose is an excellent guess (but was that a regular piston powered Goose or a turboprop "Turbo-Goose"? ). Well, it was neither.....it was a DHC-6 Twin Otter. I believe Alaska Air would later operate B737 equipment into Gustavus on a seasonal basis as I think GST serves as the gateway airport for Glacier Bay.
17. Yep, it was the Top Banana in the West: Hughes Airwest. However, the aircraft type was not a DC-9.....at this time, RW was operating a Fairchild F-27 on a daily round trip routing of Phoenix-Tucson-Guaymas.
#7577
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I interviewed for a L-1011 Flight Operations Engineer position at Lockheed Palmdale in the spring of 1978, but Boeing Commercial made me a better offer as a member of the Technical Staff ... at the time, I figured working with GE in preparation for introduction of the CF6-50 on the 747-200 would be rather more intriguing than maintaining flight manuals and operations manuals ... a few years later, when I spoke with the Lockheed manager at an AIAA conference, he mentioned that his staff were frequently out "riding the line" for a month or more at a time with airlines like BWIA, British Airways, and ANA (in addition to the more mundane trips with Delta, Eastern, and TWA)
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Thank you jrl for keeping this one a bit alive.
Yes, Nigerian Airways was the purchaser of the last 707 airliner off the line, number 929, at the very end of 1977. It was in 1989 it went to Dublin for that D-check which was never paid for so it never came back. A few years later the same thing happened to an A310 they sent to Brussels. I believe that for the Dublin one the funds, the best part of US$10m, were made available by the airline but intercepted along the way before the maintenance company received them ...
The very last (non-airline) 707 basic aircraft built at Renton was number 1012, as late as 1991, it was then adapted as an AWACS aircraft and delivered to the RAF; they can still be seen over Eastern England most days.
Afraid not. I'll finish this one off with the last Tristar off the line having been completed in January 1984, which went to TAP Portugal; theirs were used principally on runs from Lisbon to JFK, Rio, and such like. The Alia fleet did immediately precede it off the line through 1983.
Anyone else game for a stab at the others ?
Yes, Nigerian Airways was the purchaser of the last 707 airliner off the line, number 929, at the very end of 1977. It was in 1989 it went to Dublin for that D-check which was never paid for so it never came back. A few years later the same thing happened to an A310 they sent to Brussels. I believe that for the Dublin one the funds, the best part of US$10m, were made available by the airline but intercepted along the way before the maintenance company received them ...
The very last (non-airline) 707 basic aircraft built at Renton was number 1012, as late as 1991, it was then adapted as an AWACS aircraft and delivered to the RAF; they can still be seen over Eastern England most days.
[L1011]APSA?
Anyone else game for a stab at the others ?
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Afraid not. I'll finish this one off with the last Tristar off the line having been completed in January 1984, which went to TAP Portugal; theirs were used principally on runs from Lisbon to JFK, Rio, and such like. The Alia fleet did immediately precede it off the line through 1983.
Anyone else game for a stab at the others ?
I do have a quick bonus quiz item concerning the L-1011, though.....
At one point, this airline was operating nonstop L-1011 service into LAX from two locations in the Caribbean. One flight operated once a week and the other flight operated twice a week. Identify the air carrier and the two airports in the Caribbean. ANSWERED
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Airline Posters
The New York Times has a nice slide show of airline posters that might appeal to folks on this forum:
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2. Time to provide an answer.....this was Cordova Airlines (CD) operating a Convair 240. And for the record, my hint was in error as Cordova was based in Alaska. However, by 1968 Cordova Airlines had been acquired by Alaska Airlines which was (and is) based in the Seattle area. Several flights operated by Cordova with the CV-240 appeared in a 1967 AS timetable. Alaska Air was also operating the CV-240 at this time.
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11. In 1993, two airlines were operating nonstop between the Seychelles and Nairobi. One air carrier operated once a week and the second airline flew twice a week. Each air carrier operated different equipment on the route. Identify both as well as the respective aircraft.
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13. Identify a commuter airline that served San Francisco (SFO) with the Australian-manufactured GAF "Nomad" STOL capable twin turboprop.
18. In 1994, three airlines were operating nonstop service to St. Maarten (SXM) from the New York area. Two airlines operated from the same NYC area airport and the third air carrier operated from another area airport. Airline #1 operated daily, airline #2 flew six days a week and airline #3 operated four days a week. Two of the air carriers flew the same type of equipment and the third airline operated a different aircraft type. Name all three airlines and the respective aircraft they operated on the route. Partially answered
18. #1 - American (AA) with a B757-200 JFK-SXM,
#2 - Continental (CO) with a B727-200 EWR-SXM-ANU-EWR and
#3 - Antigua Paradise Airways (HU) with B727-200 EWR-SXM-ANU.
According to the OAG, Antigua Paradise Airways was based in Manassas, VA and was only operating two flights four days a week: ANU-EWR and EWR-SXM-ANU.
And with that, we are off to Jamaica very early tomorrow morning. This is jlemon, over and out.
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Consolidating a couple of recent bonus questions from myself and JL, and adding several others, I thought I'd put together some questions for the last airliners of a type delivered new to an airline. Bonus for getting the date roughly right as well. So which carrier took the last of the line :
- DC8
- Hawker Siddeley Trident
- DC8
- Hawker Siddeley Trident
I'll guess the last Trident went to CAAC.
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I do have a quick bonus quiz item concerning the L-1011, though.....
At one point, this airline was operating nonstop L-1011 service into LAX from two locations in the Caribbean. One flight operated once a week and the other flight operated twice a week. Identify the air carrier and the two airports in the Caribbean.
At one point, this airline was operating nonstop L-1011 service into LAX from two locations in the Caribbean. One flight operated once a week and the other flight operated twice a week. Identify the air carrier and the two airports in the Caribbean.
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Good Morning from chilly Alaska! After spending an extra four hours on the road yesterday while two landslides and a washout were dealt with, I returned home late last night to find that FINALLY our IT problems appear to have been successfully addressed. This morning I have a good strong connection allowing me to once again dart about the web with vim and vigor.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pr...h-1592247.html
Damage of £1m is a gross understatement. Over £10m would be nearer the mark. It wasn't just burst tyres, it was a complete off the end of the runway into the rough grass.
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http://www.scoopnest.com/user/ktva/639157575594807296
http://www.breakingnews.com/item/201...ing-salmon-as/ (Scroll down a wee bit)
This shot of POTUS' arrival at OTZ appears to show the nose of a C-32 in the background...
http://www.adn.com/article/20150902/...-trip-kotzebue
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Now I did find nonstop SJU-LAX service flown by Delta in the early 1970's....but not with the TriStar. The aircraft type operated on the route was a Super DC-8. Here's a sched example from 1974....
DL 981: SJU 10:00p - 1:40a LAX
Op: Daily except Tues. & Weds.
Equip: D8S
By 1976, there were two Delta operated flights flown with the Super DC-8 from San Juan to Los Angeles; however, they both made one intermediate stop en route in New Orleans (MSY). One flight operated daily and the other only operated on Fridays and Saturdays.
By the late 1970's, Delta was operating the L-1011 between SJU and LAX; however, intermediate stops were made en route. For example, in 1979 DL was operating the L10 on two daily flights from San Juan to Los Angeles. Routings were SJU-MSY-LAX and SJU-MIA-ATL-DFW-LAX. Also by this time, Delta was no longer serving Montego Bay in Jamaica (they are now, of course).
So you have named one of the Caribbean destinations correctly: Montego Bay.
And speaking of Montego Bay, we departed from Jamaica to ATL yesterday afternoon on board a Delta B737-800 in the front cabin after visiting the Club MoBay VIP lounge (which has a great view of the MBJ runway and ramp) where we enjoyed several excellent rum drinks as well as Jamaican pumpkin soup (with a dash of locally made scotch bonnet pepper sauce just for fun ).
It was beautiful day for flying over the Caribbean with numerous huge thunderstorms over Cuba. I did get to see the airfields at Ciego de Avila and Cayo Coco before we headed to Bimini in the Bahamas with Freeport visible out to the east. We stayed just offshore of the east coast of Florida to avoid weather before making landfall near St. Augustine. Of course, there was another big thunderstorm just north of ATL making air traffic interesting for all concerned but we made it into the airport just fine (several other flights had to divert). It took us over an hour to clear customs (a rather inefficient CBP op there at Atlanta with not enough staff) before we made our way to the AA Admirals Club prior to catching our connecting flight home to LFT.
We then chased the sunset on board a Delta B717-200 in the front cabin and a truly beautiful sunset it was, at one point silhouetted by a big thunderstorm just north of Laurel, Mississippi. Home again and our little pup Miss Bella was delighted to see us.
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At one point, this airline was operating nonstop L-1011 service into LAX from two locations in the Caribbean. One flight operated once a week and the other flight operated twice a week. Identify the air carrier and the two airports in the Caribbean.
Air Jamaica with nonstop L-1011 service from Montego Bay and Kingston to LAX
And this bonus item has now been ANSWERED......
Air Jamaica with nonstop L-1011 service from Montego Bay and Kingston to LAX
And this bonus item has now been ANSWERED......
Last edited by jlemon; Sep 13, 2015 at 9:54 am Reason: answer update