us2

19. You were going to take the train from Chicago up to Milwaukee until you discovered that this airline operated a single widebodied flight on the route each day. Name the airline and the equipment used.

IIRC, the answer is United with a DC-10.

us2

It was largely competition from Southwest in the intra-California markets. I recall flying US out to California in the early '90s and Terminal 1 appeared to be a US fortress with only a small Southwest presence. Fast forward toward the end of the decade and it was reversed. As I recall, US was at one time the dominant carrier between LAX and SFO.

jrl767

PSA and UA were going head-to-head on this route as far back as the mid 70s; as I recall they both had on-the-hour service, and for a while UA even ran on the half-hour at morning and evening peaks ... PS even operated L-1011s on this segment (I flew SFO-LAX on N10112 in Jan 1975)

PS was also a presence at the satellite airports (SJC and OAK in the Bay Area; BUR, ONT, and SNA in SoCal) but competition came from UA's buildup of the SFO hub (and AirCal) in the early to mid 80s ... I was at Edwards AFB from mid-84 thru mid-87, mostly flew PS/TW to/from SFO, and AS/PS/UA (plus the occasional PA 747) to/from Seattle; I don't recall having WN on the scene at that time, but when they entered the market they took their standard approach of saturating the less-heavily-utilized routes with frequency ... as I recall, they had some issues obtaining slots at LAX, but as us2 said this was pretty much overcome by the mid 90s; they specifically avoided SFO for a long time because of its propensity for weather delays

jrl767

well I will again say I had forgotten about WC as well, but as our friend jlemon is fond of saying, "Please guess again, sir!" ...

hint: the Combi flight to ANC did NOT originate at SEA

miniliq

I thought I posted a reply to this one last night, but it disappeared into the ether -- probably forgot to hit "submit"
Anyway, I'll go with AA, DL, EA, NW, and UA. There were also at least four other "non-jet" carriers, including one with an intermediate stop!

miniliq

CO had non-stop service from EL Paso (ELP) with a 737 and McAllen (MFE) with a 727. Also, at one time there was a non-stop service from Laredo (LRD) by TAESA (GD) using a 727, but not sure if it was there in mid-92.

jlemon

jrl22: PSA and UA were going head-to-head on this route as far back as the mid 70s; as I recall they both had on-the-hour service, and for a while UA even ran on the half-hour at morning and evening peaks ... PS even operated L-1011s on this segment (I flew SFO-LAX on N10112 in Jan 1975)

Good old PSA....as a native of Southern California, I flew with them many times over the years, primarily into and out of LAX and BUR on B727-200, MD-80 and BAe 146 aircraft. And my first airline flight ever as a young kid was on board a PSA L-188 Electra from LAX to SFO.

If I remember correctly, PSA's rationale for acquiring and operating the L-1011 was that the airline's management thought that United was planning on operating DC-10 shuttle service between LAX and SFO. I do not believe that happened although I think UA did operate the odd wide body flight between the two city pairs. Thus, PSA was left with a very large aircraft type which they had trouble filling. Besides LAX-SFO, PSA also operated the L10 on SAN-LAX-SFO and LAX-SFO-SMF routings. L-1011 services did not last very long at PSA.....

Catch our smile.....PSA!

jrl767

"Grinning Bird"
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2065/...6483a458fd.jpg

remember the ad with the FAs posing in the RB211 engine inlet on the L10
http://www.skyshirts.com/images/PSA_Photoblock.gif

WHBM

There was a justification for this in a trade journal by US Airways management at the time that the former PSA operation was being wound down. Now you can never be quite sure about such statements, as to whether they reflect true thinking at the time or some subsequent attempt to justify a nonsense. However, it said that the stock value of PSA was depressed by the arrival of Southwest, the recent sale of Air Cal to American, and the increasing importance of national frequent-flyer programmes which PSA of course could not offer, and that what US Air paid for it really just bought them a good MD-80 fleet, which they felt they could employ more profitably back east expanding their traditional network - which is what they did. They didn't see a lot of value in the PSA network in its own right. A classic asset-strip.

Part of this meant that Chesley Sullenberger, who was on the PSA MD-80 fleet, was still commuting from his home in California to the US Airways base in Charlotte at the time of the Hudson incident, having upgraded to the Airbus when the MD-80s were retired, so maybe those passengers owe their lives in part to this management decision.

Seat 2A

Seat 2A

jlemon

Eastern (EA) with D9S service and Best Airlines (IW) with DC9 service.

Interesting little airline, Best.....they never seemed to find their niche before going out of business. And at one point they served central Louisiana with DC9 service on ESF-ATL and ESF-GPT-ATL routings (all airline service for Alexandria was subsequently moved from ESF to AEX. ESF had also been served back in the day by Delta with 72S and D9S equipment....).

jrl767

as did PA (747) and TW (L10 and 767; possibly 747 also) ... I seem to recall EA with an A300 at one point as well

jrl767

I think this has to be United with a DC-6 ... guessing the route involved OMA, LNK, DEN, GJT, LAS


how about UA again, on a 767-300

AussieExPat

Maybe I'm missing something being very late to the game, but I read Seat 2A's comment to mean it wasn't a widebody. How about a 752?