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Feb 28, 2021, 11:11 am
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Canadian Airlines (op by Canadian Regional)
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Feb 28, 2021, 11:54 am
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15. Correct! An example of this arrangement was the F.28 service operated twice a day by Canadian Regional between Ottawa and Toronto. Here are the scheds from YOW to YYZ....
BA* 6478: Ottawa (YOW) 6:25a - 7:24a Toronto (YYZ)
Freq: Daily except Sat. & Sun.
Service classes: C/Y
Meal service: Snack
Equip: F28
Note: This flight also operated as CP* 1551
BA* 6496: Ottawa (YOW) 3:00p - 3:59p Toronto (YYZ)
Freq: Daily except Sat.
Service classes: C/Y
Meal service: None
Equip: F28
Note: This flight also operated as CP* 1575
BTW, Inter-Canadien operating Canadian Partner code sharing service for CP was also operating a daily round trip code sharing flight on behalf of BA at this same time between Ottawa and Montreal Dorval with an ATR-42.
BA* 6478: Ottawa (YOW) 6:25a - 7:24a Toronto (YYZ)
Freq: Daily except Sat. & Sun.
Service classes: C/Y
Meal service: Snack
Equip: F28
Note: This flight also operated as CP* 1551
BA* 6496: Ottawa (YOW) 3:00p - 3:59p Toronto (YYZ)
Freq: Daily except Sat.
Service classes: C/Y
Meal service: None
Equip: F28
Note: This flight also operated as CP* 1575
BTW, Inter-Canadien operating Canadian Partner code sharing service for CP was also operating a daily round trip code sharing flight on behalf of BA at this same time between Ottawa and Montreal Dorval with an ATR-42.
Feb 28, 2021, 1:31 pm
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10.It's 1985. You've thoroughly enjoyed a leisurely dinner on a Saturday night with old friends in Montauk on the east end of Long Island. However, you need to get back to work and this means you'll be heading west to San Diego the next morning. You've found a direct flight from the closest airport to Montauk which has jet service with this flight making three stops en route. This service only operates on Sundays. Identify the airline you'll be flying with, the airport you will depart from, all three stops in order and the equipment.
Feb 28, 2021, 1:41 pm
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8. Now it's 1980. You've just finished a business meeting in Oslo and are preparing to depart from close-in Fornebu Airport to Dublin for your next meeting. A connection will be required but you will be flying with the same air carrier with the same aircraft type being operated on both of your nonstop flights. Name the air carrier, the connecting airport and the equipment.
Feb 28, 2021, 1:49 pm
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10- not too many options for jet service out of Long Island MacArthur (ISP) ... let’s try United with a 727-200 via Chicago/ORD, Omaha/OMA, and Denver/DEN (I’d also speculate that all segments operated daily, but either the first or last carried a different flight number)
13- Delta immediately leaps to my mind, operating via two of Orlando/MCO, Atlanta/ATL, or Dallas/DFW and the equipment being either a Boeing 767-300 or a Lockheed L-1011 ... however, I’ll offer that the real flight in question was a TWA 727-200 stopping in Miami/MIA and St Louis/STL
13- Delta immediately leaps to my mind, operating via two of Orlando/MCO, Atlanta/ATL, or Dallas/DFW and the equipment being either a Boeing 767-300 or a Lockheed L-1011 ... however, I’ll offer that the real flight in question was a TWA 727-200 stopping in Miami/MIA and St Louis/STL
13. TWA with stops at Miami and St. Louis is correct.....but the equipment wasn't a B727-200.
Feb 28, 2021, 1:57 pm
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That's a good one. I'm pretty sure the SAS flight from Copenhagen to Dublin, one of very few European operators to serve there in 1980 (what a contrast to nowadays !) still stopped at Manchester. I'll therefore fall back on British Airways, through Terminal 1 at London Heathrow, with a Trident on both sectors.
BA 643: Oslo Fornebu (FBU) 12:25p - 1:20p London Heathrow (LHR)
Freq: Daily
Service classes: F/Y (I think...)
Equip: Trident
Connecting to.....
BA 816: London Heathrow (LHR) 2:55p - 4:00p Dublin (DUB)
Freq: Daily
Service classes: F/Y (I think...)
Equip: Trident
Feb 28, 2021, 2:12 pm
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10- 72S ISP-SAN with three stops: absence of a stop at ORD also takes AA out of the equation, so that seems to leave USAir as the operator of record ... the last two stops were certainly Pittsburgh/PIT and Phoenix/PHX, and I think a daily 72S into PIT was less common from Philadelphia/PHL than from Washington National/DCA, meaning the routing was ISP-DCA-PIT-PHX-SAN
13- I don’t recall any red-and-white wide-bodies on SJU-MIA-STL-SLC, so this would have been an MD-80
13- I don’t recall any red-and-white wide-bodies on SJU-MIA-STL-SLC, so this would have been an MD-80
Feb 28, 2021, 5:15 pm
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Separately, in a discussion in the last few hours between the old aircraft buffs of London, we each separately heard a notably loud Antonov 12 which came across, seemingly at the normal 23,000 feet, but very prominent on the ground. I was having a nap inside the house, windows closed, and it woke me up ! Another was 10 miles off the centre line and heard it. And one watching the mainstream Chelsea v Manchester United football game on the television heard it droning over the commentators' voice !
You probably don't get a lot of "Annie's" over in the US, or indeed many 4-engined propeller airliners at all any longer. However, it was routing west from the Brno in the Czech Republic to Shannon, which may well be an indication that she's Coming Your Way ! Here's a video of her at Birmingham, just a couple of months ago.
You probably don't get a lot of "Annie's" over in the US, or indeed many 4-engined propeller airliners at all any longer. However, it was routing west from the Brno in the Czech Republic to Shannon, which may well be an indication that she's Coming Your Way ! Here's a video of her at Birmingham, just a couple of months ago.
Feb 28, 2021, 5:25 pm
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Separately, in a discussion in the last few hours between the old aircraft buffs of London, we each separately heard a notably loud Antonov 12 which came across, seemingly at the normal 23,000 feet, but very prominent on the ground. I was having a nap inside the house, windows closed, and it woke me up ! Another was 10 miles off the centre line and heard it. And one watching the mainstream Chelsea v Manchester United football game on the television heard it droning over the commentators' voice !
Mar 1, 2021, 5:33 am
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Ukrainian An-12 UR-CKM of Cavok Air now headed for St Johns Newfoundland. We can only guess at a final destination. They normally do two sectors a day; yesterday it positioned from Marseilles to Brno, and then (I guess) loaded up and headed to Shannon for an overnight stop - and the duty free store, and the Irish Coffee - Shannon's longstanding speciality from prop aircraft days, as described here (where's @miniliq when you need him ... 
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The late-night flight that inspired a chef to make the first Irish coffee (thejournal.ie)
) :The late-night flight that inspired a chef to make the first Irish coffee (thejournal.ie)
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Mar 1, 2021, 8:27 am
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10- 72S ISP-SAN with three stops: absence of a stop at ORD also takes AA out of the equation, so that seems to leave USAir as the operator of record ... the last two stops were certainly Pittsburgh/PIT and Phoenix/PHX, and I think a daily 72S into PIT was less common from Philadelphia/PHL than from Washington National/DCA, meaning the routing was ISP-DCA-PIT-PHX-SAN
13- I don’t recall any red-and-white wide-bodies on SJU-MIA-STL-SLC, so this would have been an MD-80
13- I don’t recall any red-and-white wide-bodies on SJU-MIA-STL-SLC, so this would have been an MD-80
AL 45: Long Island MacArthur (ISP) 10:50a - 11:48a Washington National (DCA) 12:30p - 1:22p Pittsburgh (PIT) 2:25p - 4:34p Phoenix (PHX) 5:10p - 5:09p San Diego (SAN)
Freq: ISP-DCA Sundays only, PIT-SAN Daily
Service classes: F/Y
Meal service: Lunch PIT-PHX
Equip: B727-200
Note: USAir was still using the old Allegheny "AL" two letter code at this time
13. Yep and Trans World was the only airline operating MD-80 service between SJU and MIA at this time. Here's the sched....
TW 341: San Juan (SJU) 6:20a - 9:00a Miami (MIA) 9:35a - 11:25a St. Louis (STL) 12:18p - 2:31p Salt Lake City (SLC)
Freq: Daily
Service classes: F/Y
Meal services: Breakfast SJU-MIA, Snack in F only MIA-STL, Lunch in F & Snack in Y STL-SLC
Equip: MD-80
Mar 1, 2021, 8:30 am
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However, it wasn't Lufthansa, the connection was not made at Frankfurt and four engine Airbus aircraft were not operated on either flight.
Please guess again, sir!
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Irish Coffee
Ukrainian An-12 UR-CKM of Cavok Air now headed for St Johns Newfoundland. We can only guess at a final destination. They normally do two sectors a day; yesterday it positioned from Marseilles to Brno, and then (I guess) loaded up and headed to Shannon for an overnight stop - and the duty free store, and the Irish Coffee - Shannon's longstanding speciality from prop aircraft days, as described here (where's @miniliq when you need him ... ) :
The late-night flight that inspired a chef to make the first Irish coffee (thejournal.ie)
) :The late-night flight that inspired a chef to make the first Irish coffee (thejournal.ie)
Mar 1, 2021, 8:54 am
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Ukrainian An-12 UR-CKM of Cavok Air now headed for St Johns Newfoundland. We can only guess at a final destination. They normally do two sectors a day; yesterday it positioned from Marseilles to Brno, and then (I guess) loaded up and headed to Shannon for an overnight stop - and the duty free store, and the Irish Coffee - Shannon's longstanding speciality from prop aircraft days, as described here (where's @miniliq when you need him ... ) :
The late-night flight that inspired a chef to make the first Irish coffee (thejournal.ie)
) :The late-night flight that inspired a chef to make the first Irish coffee (thejournal.ie)
https://www.airliners.net/photo/Cavo...vacJ0GLJKT8hsN
It's been some years since I saw an Antonov An-12 parked on the ramp at IAH (adjacent to the FedEx facility) as I no longer visit Houston on business on a regular basis.
And great to hear from miniliq! Hope all is well with you and family in the New Orleans area and that you all survived The Big Deep Freeze of 2021! I'm hoping our orange trees will recover in our backyard here in Lafayette as they are not looking too healthy at the moment.
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