Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion.
Feb 10, 2021, 8:50 pm
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What timing! I've been hard at work putting together a picture book of First Class travel experiences (mainly meals) from my past. It's been a lot of work what with selecting pictures and writing up descriptions. All told it'll be 108 pages with 2 pictures to a page in an 8"x12" size, so it's nice to finally get it completed and ordered.
In three days I'm off to Colorado and other points - double masked no less. By the time l get home I'll have just over 1 million miles built up in my mileage account - just waiting to be exchanged in part for First Class tickets to the Seychelles Islands. Or the Marquesas Islands.
Thanks for these great questions, Mr. Lemon. I'll have a go at a couple -
2. Now it's 1967 and time for yet another milk run flight! This time you are in Florida and are on your way from Pensacola to Key West with your flight making four stops along the way. Name the air carrier, all four stops in order and the aircraft.
This has gotta be National. Let's say a 727-100 routing Pensacola - Jacksonville - Orlando - Tampa - Miami - Key West
3. In 1972 this airline ran a print ad concerning its direct service from Los Angeles to both Sydney and Melbourne which included the following statement: "Perhaps that's why somany passengers tell us they enjoy our service across the South Pacific so much. Enjoy the comfort of really being looked after. Even the old fashioned delight of having someone say please and thank you." This ad also mentioned the aircraft type operated on its service between LAX and Australia. Name the air carrier that ran this ad as well as the aircraft type.
Any chance this could be Continental running those daytime DC-10 pub equipped flights?
In three days I'm off to Colorado and other points - double masked no less. By the time l get home I'll have just over 1 million miles built up in my mileage account - just waiting to be exchanged in part for First Class tickets to the Seychelles Islands. Or the Marquesas Islands.
Thanks for these great questions, Mr. Lemon. I'll have a go at a couple -
2. Now it's 1967 and time for yet another milk run flight! This time you are in Florida and are on your way from Pensacola to Key West with your flight making four stops along the way. Name the air carrier, all four stops in order and the aircraft.
This has gotta be National. Let's say a 727-100 routing Pensacola - Jacksonville - Orlando - Tampa - Miami - Key West
3. In 1972 this airline ran a print ad concerning its direct service from Los Angeles to both Sydney and Melbourne which included the following statement: "Perhaps that's why somany passengers tell us they enjoy our service across the South Pacific so much. Enjoy the comfort of really being looked after. Even the old fashioned delight of having someone say please and thank you." This ad also mentioned the aircraft type operated on its service between LAX and Australia. Name the air carrier that ran this ad as well as the aircraft type.
Any chance this could be Continental running those daytime DC-10 pub equipped flights?
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8. Also in 1988, one airline was operating daily direct one stop service from Albany (ALB) in New York to Nassau in the Bahamas. Name the air carrier, the stop and the equipment.
10. If you wanted to fly nonstop from Philadelphia (PHL) to St. Petersburg (PIE) in Florida in early 1994, what airline would you call and what type of equipment would you be flying on? And here's a hint: the aircraft type was in all coach configuration.
10. If you wanted to fly nonstop from Philadelphia (PHL) to St. Petersburg (PIE) in Florida in early 1994, what airline would you call and what type of equipment would you be flying on? And here's a hint: the aircraft type was in all coach configuration.
10. I seem to remember that ATA started flying from PHL at this time and it seemed it was with a not frequently seen aircraft. Would this have been with the L-1011?
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What timing! I've been hard at work putting together a picture book of First Class travel experiences (mainly meals) from my past. It's been a lot of work what with selecting pictures and writing up descriptions. All told it'll be 108 pages with 2 pictures to a page in an 8"x12" size, so it's nice to finally get it completed and ordered.
In three days I'm off to Colorado and other points - double masked no less. By the time l get home I'll have just over 1 million miles built up in my mileage account - just waiting to be exchanged in part for First Class tickets to the Seychelles Islands. Or the Marquesas Islands.
Thanks for these great questions, Mr. Lemon. I'll have a go at a couple -
2. Now it's 1967 and time for yet another milk run flight! This time you are in Florida and are on your way from Pensacola to Key West with your flight making four stops along the way. Name the air carrier, all four stops in order and the aircraft.
This has gotta be National. Let's say a 727-100 routing Pensacola - Jacksonville - Orlando - Tampa - Miami - Key West
3. In 1972 this airline ran a print ad concerning its direct service from Los Angeles to both Sydney and Melbourne which included the following statement: "Perhaps that's why somany passengers tell us they enjoy our service across the South Pacific so much. Enjoy the comfort of really being looked after. Even the old fashioned delight of having someone say please and thank you." This ad also mentioned the aircraft type operated on its service between LAX and Australia. Name the air carrier that ran this ad as well as the aircraft type.
Any chance this could be Continental running those daytime DC-10 pub equipped flights?
In three days I'm off to Colorado and other points - double masked no less. By the time l get home I'll have just over 1 million miles built up in my mileage account - just waiting to be exchanged in part for First Class tickets to the Seychelles Islands. Or the Marquesas Islands.
Thanks for these great questions, Mr. Lemon. I'll have a go at a couple -
2. Now it's 1967 and time for yet another milk run flight! This time you are in Florida and are on your way from Pensacola to Key West with your flight making four stops along the way. Name the air carrier, all four stops in order and the aircraft.
This has gotta be National. Let's say a 727-100 routing Pensacola - Jacksonville - Orlando - Tampa - Miami - Key West
3. In 1972 this airline ran a print ad concerning its direct service from Los Angeles to both Sydney and Melbourne which included the following statement: "Perhaps that's why somany passengers tell us they enjoy our service across the South Pacific so much. Enjoy the comfort of really being looked after. Even the old fashioned delight of having someone say please and thank you." This ad also mentioned the aircraft type operated on its service between LAX and Australia. Name the air carrier that ran this ad as well as the aircraft type.
Any chance this could be Continental running those daytime DC-10 pub equipped flights?
3. Ah, it wasn't Continental nor was the aircraft a DC-10. Please guess again, sir!
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8. This would have been about the time that I started flying into ALB with my family having relocated there the year before. I'm going to guess that this is Piedmont flying ALB-BWI-NAS on a 727-200.
10. I seem to remember that ATA started flying from PHL at this time and it seemed it was with a not frequently seen aircraft. Would this have been with the L-1011?
10. I seem to remember that ATA started flying from PHL at this time and it seemed it was with a not frequently seen aircraft. Would this have been with the L-1011?
10. Correct! American Trans Air (ATA) was operating scheduled wide body service once a week from PHL to PIE during the winter of early 1994. Here's the sched....
TZ 459: Philadelphia (PHL) 7:30a - 10:00a St. Petersburg/Clearwater (PIE)
Freq: Mondays only
Service class: Y
Meal service: Snack
Equip: L-1011
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1- the two choices of airline would seem to be Frontier and Continental ... let's start with a CO Viscount, on a fairly direct track via Tulsa/TUL, Oklahoma City/OKC, Wichita Falls/SPS, Lubbock/LBB, and Midland-Odessa/MAF
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And Tulsa was the first stop....but after TUL, you've wandered a bit off course as the flight in question did not stop in OKC, SPS, LBB or MAF.
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1. You are off to an excellent start here as it was indeed Continental operating a Vickers Viscount 812 which the airline called the " VISCOUNT II ".
And Tulsa was the first stop....but after TUL, you've wandered a bit off course as the flight in question did not stop in OKC, SPS, LBB or MAF.
And Tulsa was the first stop....but after TUL, you've wandered a bit off course as the flight in question did not stop in OKC, SPS, LBB or MAF.
Colorado Springs/COS makes sense; Frontier was the only carrier at Alamogordo, so the missing one has to lie between TUL and DEN ... must be Wichita/ICT, making the entire route MKC-TUL-ICT-DEN-COS-ABQ-ELP
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14. Also in 1996, only one airline was operating 747 service into Kilimanjaro (JRO) in Tanzania with the flight only operating once a week. What airline operated this flight and where did it depart from nonstop to Kilimanjaro? It wasn't KLM or Lufthansa and the nonstop flight in question did not depart from AMS or FRA
15. In the fall of 1999, only two airlines were operating nonstop service from New York JFK to Toronto. One of these flights only operated three days a week and the other flight only operated once a week. Different aircraft types were operated on these flights. Name both air carriers and the respective equipment they operated from JFK to YYZ.
15. In the fall of 1999, only two airlines were operating nonstop service from New York JFK to Toronto. One of these flights only operated three days a week and the other flight only operated once a week. Different aircraft types were operated on these flights. Name both air carriers and the respective equipment they operated from JFK to YYZ.
15. Wild guesses: RG - 3 weekly on B747-300; VP (VASP) - 1 weekly on MD-11.
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1- "a bit off course" means the big turboprop must have headed over toward CO's hub at Denver/DEN, thence south via Albuquerque/ABQ ... which accounts for two stops, so we need two more
Colorado Springs/COS makes sense; Frontier was the only carrier at Alamogordo, so the missing one has to lie between TUL and DEN ... must be Wichita/ICT, making the entire route MKC-TUL-ICT-DEN-COS-ABQ-ELP
Colorado Springs/COS makes sense; Frontier was the only carrier at Alamogordo, so the missing one has to lie between TUL and DEN ... must be Wichita/ICT, making the entire route MKC-TUL-ICT-DEN-COS-ABQ-ELP
CO 243: Kansas City (MKC) 6:25p - 7:24p Tulsa (TUL) 7:40p - 8:20p Wichita (ICT) 8:35p - 9:18p Denver (DEN) 9:45p - 10:15p Colorado Springs (COS) 10:30p - 11:41p Albuquerque (ABQ) 11:56p - 12:59a+1 El Paso (ELP)
Freq: Daily
Service classes: A/T - "Combination First and Coach Classes (Jet-Prop or Piston)"
Onboard service: "Light Refreshment with Champagne served in First Class, Light Refreshment served in Club Coach" ICT-DEN & COS-ABQ
Equip: VISCOUNT II
Continental introduced the Vickers Viscount 812 with great fanfare in 1958 stating the aircraft was "The world's most beautiful, luxurious and comfortable airliner":
http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...o58/co58-2.jpg
And back at that time the Viscount was the only turbine powered aircraft in the CO fleet as I believe the airline did not introduce Boeing 707 service until 1959.
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14. I do not recall AF ever flying to JRO, but I do not see any other candidate (it was still during apartheid, so I cannot imagine that SAA could even fly to Tanzania, right?). So AF on B747-200M with something obvious: CDG-NBO-JRO. If I recall correctly AF had monopoly on East Africa and UTA West Africa, so I would rather exclude UTA, but who knows
15. Wild guesses: RG - 3 weekly on B747-300; VP (VASP) - 1 weekly on MD-11.
15. Wild guesses: RG - 3 weekly on B747-300; VP (VASP) - 1 weekly on MD-11.
However, you are on the right track here (and that statement is a rather oblique hint).
15. Your wild guess is partially correct as VASP was operating fifth freedom MD-11 service from New York JFK to Toronto at this time.
However, VASP was operating its JFK-YYZ service three days a week....and the other air carrier wasn't VARIG nor was the equipment a B747-300.
Please guess again, sir!
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15. Seem to remember BA was operating a (IIRC) MAN-JFK-YYZ route with a 757-200 (R-R powered of course), used by some to score the OneWorld 5-airline 100,000 mile bonus a year later.
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14. '96 was at about the time the Nationalist Party government in South Africa were negotiating with the ANC for an end of minority rule, if there weren't fully franchised elections already. So SAA from JNB is perfectly plausible.
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2. Now it's 1967 and time for yet another milk run flight! This time you are in Florida and are on your way from Pensacola to Key West with your flight making four stops along the way. Name the air carrier, all four stops in order and the aircraft.
National is correct.....but not with a B727-100. And as for the stops, your routing is semi correct as this flight did not stop at JAX while MCO wasn't the second stop and TPA wasn't the third stop. We await the tap in......
Hmm... Okay - well then, 1967 was the year National claimed to have become an all-jet airline, so this must've been just slightly before that status was attained. As such, let's go with the Electra. I'm going to assume that MCO & TPA were not even in the routing, so let's try flying down the east coast routing Pensacola - Jacksonville - Melbourne - West Palm - Miami - Key West
National is correct.....but not with a B727-100. And as for the stops, your routing is semi correct as this flight did not stop at JAX while MCO wasn't the second stop and TPA wasn't the third stop. We await the tap in......
Hmm... Okay - well then, 1967 was the year National claimed to have become an all-jet airline, so this must've been just slightly before that status was attained. As such, let's go with the Electra. I'm going to assume that MCO & TPA were not even in the routing, so let's try flying down the east coast routing Pensacola - Jacksonville - Melbourne - West Palm - Miami - Key West