WHBM

They were getting all tooled up back in March to start up some of the key routes from Belfast and Southampton lost with the Flybe bankruptcy, but never got going before they had to shut down virtually everything. They do seem to have continued a couple of routes where most of the business was oil & gas industry. BA got rid of them last year at London City where they provided three aircraft under contract, moving on to Loganair instead.

WHBM

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22.

What about Aces of Colombia, with a 727 from Miami to Bogota and another (Cali ?) in Colombia. They would be up against Avianca and need to try harder.

jlemon

22. Correct! Although the two cities in Colombia were Bogota (BOG) and Medellin (MDE) with the airline operating its primary hub at the latter city. It appears ACES (VX) primarily flew their B727-200ADV equipment on the BOG-MIA and MDE-MIA routes with B727-100, ATR-42-320 and DHC-6 Twin Otter aircraft being operated on their domestic services.

Here's the ACES print ad concerning its Miami premium service including the airline's route map.....

ACES April 4, 1993 Route Map

dfw88

There are only so many cities this can be. I can think of 2 good possibilities and one maybe. I'll throw out TGU first.

jlemon

14. Nope! However, this flight originated in Tegucigalpa and then made a couple of stops in Honduras before departing from the second stop to Miami nonstop.

dfw88

All right, next guess is SAP.

jlemon

14. Yep! Here's the complete sched.....

TX 800: Tegucigalpa (TGU) 7:00a - 7:30a La Ceiba (LCE) 7:50a - 8:10a San Pedro Sula (SAP) 8:30a - 12:15p Miami (MIA)
Freq: Saturdays only
Service class: Y
Meal service: Breakfast SAP-MIA
Equip: Electra PROPJET

TAN was primarily operating the Boeing 737-200 in 1980 but still offered a few flights with the Electra. This was also the only Electra service into Miami at the time. Ten years earlier in 1970, TAN was primarily operating the Electra on most of its flights but was also operating the BAC One-Eleven. TAN would eventually merge with another Honduran airline, SAHSA.

WHBM

Gosh, that's the second absolute guess in a couple of days. I'm still amazed about getting the Swissair one at Athens, including the intermediate points, first time though !

Meanwhile, interesting to see what odd aviation activity still continues over here. Yesterday evening an unusual increasing noise turned out to be three 1930s De Havilland Tiger Moths in close formation just rumbling along at about 1,000 feet right overhead the centreline of London City airport.

WHBM

The One-Eleven had a small amount of success with several of the various Central American carriers. The BAC North American head of sales was a onetime Vickers test pilot, and after the various initial deals with the One-Eleven to mainstream US carriers BAC felt they would not sell a lot more, and he moved the sales office from New York to Miami. He wrote that, normally at a late stage in the protracted sales process, these carriers would offer all sorts of dilapidated exotica as part exchange for a new One-Eleven; C46s, DC3s, DC6s, and probably the Electra here as well. He always refused them, and sent them to the various old aircraft dealers that used to exist on the north side of Miami airport to dispose of what they had directly.

jlemon

It's been reported that a BAC One-Eleven operated by TAN was jointly owned with LANICA, an airline based in Nicaragua which was apparently founded in 1945 as a subsidiary of Pan Am which initially had a 45% stake in the Managua-based air carrier. Later on, TAN leased a Boeing 737-248 from an airline based in Europe which also had a history of leasing B737-200 aircraft to several air carriers based in the U.S. (which we've discussed here before). Here's a photo of that 737....

https://www.airliners.net/photo/TAN-...Z0Y1m9N5Kmk%2B

Back to LANICA, here's a bonus quiz item....

In 1972, LANICA added two Convair 880 aircraft to its small fleet. What was the reason for the introduction of these 880 jets by LANICA? ANSWERED

teddybear99

Howard Hughes agreed to become a major investor (25%) and as part of the agreement, they leased 2.

jlemon

Correct! The deal involving the two Convair 880 aircraft was facilitated by the Hughes Tool Company. BTW, LANICA did not survive the transition concerning the political system in Nicaragua when the Sandinistas took control of the country in 1979. The airline ceased all operations in 1981.

jrl767

Here’s a short 1969 quiz to pass the time:

1- It’s mid January and you are about to embark on a ten-week project in the Boston area. From your home near Columbus OH, you can take a direct flight with four stops and arrive shortly before 10pm. The same airline also offers a four-stop option that departs CMH an hour earlier; you’ll begin on a one-stop flight aboard a different aircraft type to a connecting city, where you’ll catch a two-stop flight (on the first type) to BOS and arrive a few minutes before 9pm.

1A- Please identify the airline, all four stops in sequence, and the equipment for the direct flight.

1B- Please identify both aircraft types, the connecting city, and all stops in order.

2- As the Boston effort is wrapping up, you start looking into ways to get to your next project in Monterey TN, and are pleased to find a direct Saturday evening flight into the closest major airport. Please identify the airline, equipment, all three stops in order, and the destination airport.

3- Friends have invited you to join them over Mother’s Day weekend in Long Beach before you return to Columbus. From your arrival airport, the earliest direct service to LAX the morning you need to depart is a two-stop flight that arrives at 7am (which translates to a 3am departure), and the next one (on the same airline, but a different type of jet) is a three-stop that doesn’t arrive until almost 1230pm. Surprisingly, the Eastern Airlines flight to Atlanta is sold out that morning, and more surprisingly Delta doesn’t serve the departure city at all.

Looking at the second closest airport to Monterey (less than 10 miles farther away), you find an early DL flight that connects to their 1030am ATL-LAX. It has an enroute stop, so you figure that it’ll be pretty much a wash to drive to ATL. A conversation with the rental car company reveals that the additional 130-some miles to ATL, along with a higher drop charge, will add over $100 to your total, so you book the two connecting Delta flights.

You call your friends back to advise them of your 1140am arrival time, and are stunned to learn that the rendezvous is actually in Long Beach, WA.

Nothing like a challenge! After an hour of so of research, you find a way to make the entire trip — from Tennessee to the Pacific Northwest and back to Ohio — on a single airline. You’ll fly exactly once on all seven types of jet equipment that the carrier operates. Your three outbound segments are all nonstops, as are two of your four returning flights; the other two each make one stop.

3A- Please identify the airline, equipment types, and all stops in sequence on the two direct flights.

3B- Please identify the originating airport, the intermediate stop, and the two equipment types for the DL trip.

3C- Please identify the airline you’ll actually be flying, the three types of aircraft, the two connection airports, and the destination of the outbound trip.

3D- Please identify the routing (including the intermediate stop where applicable) and aircraft type for each of the four return flights.

Herb687

Thinking of some of the cities served by the 1962 AA DC-6 transcon milk run discussed earlier this week has me thinking this could very well be an AA service.
By 1969, I will guess BAC 1-11 as the equipment operated by AA.
Perhaps a routing of BOS-LGA-PHL-DCA-BNA

Herb687

I will take a stab at 3C/3D since I'm pretty sure there's only one possible carrier that both A) served all of these regions and B) had that many different types of jet aircraft in 1969. The airline must be United.
Outbound Flight 1: UA 737 TYS-HSV
Outbound Flight 2: UA 727 HSV-LAX
Outbound Flight 3: UA 720 LAX-PDX
Return Flight 1: UA 722 PDX-SFO
Return Flight 2: UA DC8 SFO-SLC-DEN
Return Flight 3: UA D8S DEN-ORD
Return Flight 4: UA CVL ORD-CLE-CMH