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Old Nov 11, 2014, 2:41 am
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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:
http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Website’s information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24’s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:

http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:
http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways’ prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:
http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
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3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
Terms of Use:

https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:

https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://en.aegeanair.com
Terms of Use:

https://eservice.evaair.com
Terms of Use:

https://flymas.mobi/itravel/viewBooking.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://fly.rj.com/MyBookings/Home/EN/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://skyvector.com/airport/
Terms of Use:

https://m.aeroflot.ru/b/info/pnr/load
Terms of Use:

https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://mobile1.emirates.com/myb/review.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://myb.s7.ru/getMyBooking.action
Terms of Use:

https://mytripandmore.com/Itinerary.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
...
9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
Intellectual property notifications
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D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
E. You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
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Limitations on your use:
You agree that you will not Misuse the Site. "Misuse" includes, but is not limited to, using the Site to do any of the following:
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L. Copy or create derivative works from, display, distribute, license, perform, publish, recreate, reproduce, sell, transfer, or transmit any information, products, services, or software obtained by, from, or through the Site.
M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.

https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
Terms of Use:

https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
Prohibited Activities

You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.

You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz® web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

You may not copy, derive, edit, translate, decompile, reverse engineer, modify, use, or reproduce any code or source relating to our sites, including without limitation, any service or product Southwest offers.

You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.

You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.

When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

https://wftc3.e-travel.com
Terms of Use:

https://wtrweb.worldtracer.aero/WorldTracerWeb/pax.do
Terms of Use:

https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/S...MileCalc_en.do
Terms of Use:

https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/ETDisplay.tk
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/getPnr.tk
Terms of Use:

https://www.airberlin.com/en-DE/cockpit
Terms of Use:

https://www.airfrance.fr/cgi-bin/AF/...chPnrAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.alaskaair.com/booking/reservationlookup
Terms of Use:

https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
Terms of Use:

https://www.britishairways.com/trave...g/public/en_gb
Terms of Use:

https://www.checkmytrip.com/CMTSERVLET
Terms of Use:
https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions

3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
...
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
Terms of Use:

https://www.finnair.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.flysas.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.lot.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.
https://www.routehappy.com/
Terms of Use:

https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripple.jp
Terms of Use:

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without United’s prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without United’s prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.

https://www.viewtrip.com/GetItin.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://www.virginamerica.com/book/ow/a1/
Terms of Use:

https://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/g...ndBooking.next
Terms of Use:

https://www.virtuallythere.com/new/reservations.html
Terms of Use:

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/
Terms of Use:

http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi
Terms of Use:

http://www.airframes.org/fleet/
Terms of Use:

http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...oking-now.html
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightradar24.com/
Terms of Use:

http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...ingByFlight.do
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...tusByFlight.do
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightview.com/TravelTool...eryResults.asp
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/viewairport.asp
Terms of Use:

http://www.gcmap.com/airport/
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui
Terms of Use:
http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
...
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
2. Your Conduct

The content on this Site is for your personal use only within the organization or entity to which you are attached as applicable, and it is not intended for commercial exploitation unless expressly agreed in writing by IATA through a duly authorized representative. IATA authorizes you to download or reproduce selected materials at this Site only for your personal, non-commercial use, in the ordinary course of business provided that you retain all copyright and other proprietary notices contained in the original materials on any copies of the materials and that the title or database brand name and IATA name is stated as the source.

You may not otherwise modify, disassemble, create derivative works, distribute, reproduce, publicly display, perform, transmit, re-transmit, sell, rent, sublicense, or otherwise use any materials or content on this Site for commercial or non-commercial exploitation by yourself or the organization or entity to which you are attached or permit third parties to so do. Without limitation, unlimited or wholesale reproduction, copying of the content for commercial or non-commercial purposes and unwarranted modification of data and information within the content is not permitted, and any use of these materials on any other website or networked computer environment for any purpose without IATA’s prior written consent is prohibited.
...
4. Intellectual Property Rights

...You must not modify, decompile, or reverse engineer any software IATA discloses to you via this Site, and you must not remove, overprint, or deface any notice of copyright, trademark, logo, legend, or other notice of ownership from any originals or copies of software or information from the website. "IATA Trademarks" means all names, marks, brands, URL names or addresses, logos, designs, trade dress and other designations IATA uses in connection with Products or Services. You are not permitted to incorporate any IATA Trademarks into any other trademarks, service marks, company names, Internet addresses, domain names, or any other similar designations. Any unauthorized use of any materials contained on this website may violate copyright laws, trademark laws, the laws of privacy and publicity, and communications regulations and statutes.

http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
Terms of Use:

http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://www.myairlines.ru
Terms of Use:

http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
Terms of Use:
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Old Nov 10, 2014, 11:46 am
  #7621  
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Originally Posted by Air Rarotonga
Why is this (only) availability search function not integrated into the tool?
Such integration has certainly been considered, but it is not viable at the moment.

Originally Posted by Air Rarotonga
KVS is a company / organisation that does not find it necessary to inform it's paying customers nor respond on their inputs and questions in this thread here!
We always provide the most current information to our Members on the official KVS Tool Homepage.

We also provide answers to questions from KVS Tool Members regarding the Tool's functionality in this thread. However, if you believe we missed a question, please let us know.
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Old Nov 10, 2014, 1:26 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS
if you believe we missed a question, please let us know.
Sure:

Originally Posted by nux
Is KVS a registered company in any country and/or does it have a registered address?
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Old Nov 10, 2014, 1:43 pm
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Originally Posted by IMH
Sure:
Originally Posted by KVS
We also provide answers to questions from KVS Tool Members regarding the Tool's functionality in this thread.
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Old Nov 10, 2014, 3:14 pm
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Recently receive this email from KVS.

Hi seawolf,

We would like to draw your attention to the User Agreement that you have
accepted when you have installed the KVS Tool on your machine.

Unfortunately, some of your recent actions violate the terms of the said
User Agreement.

We hope that such violations were unintentional and, if so, would ask
that you take the appropriate corrective actions.

We look forward to your reply.
What exactly have I violated?

DEFINITION OF THE TOOL

The Tool constitutes a specialized web browser Software application, containing a set of pre-defined Bookmarks for a number of websites. All such websites (and the associated content) are believed to be available to the general public, or, where user-specific login credentials are required, to the individual users, who are the holders of such credentials.

DISCLAIMER OF LIABILITY

We specifically disclaim any liability (whether based in contract, tort, strict liability or otherwise) for any direct, indirect, incidental, consequential, or special damages arising out of or in any way connected with access to or use of this Software (even if we have been advised of the possibility of such damages), including, but not limited to, liability associated with any viruses which may infect a user's computer equipment.

This Software and any information, which you may retrieve using it, is provided to you strictly on an "AS IS" and "AS AVAILABLE" basis, and without warranty of any kind either express or implied including, but not limited to, the implied warranties of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose, title, non-infringement, security or accuracy. We do not endorse and are not responsible for the accuracy or reliability of any information retrieved using this Software. Under no circumstance will we be liable for any loss or damage, caused by a user's reliance on information or other content obtained through this Software. It is the responsibility of the user to evaluate the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any information or other content retrieved using this Software. Please seek the advice of professionals, as appropriate, regarding the evaluation and interpretation of any specific information or other content.

SOFTWARE RIGHTS & RESTRICTIONS

We retain all right, title, and interest in and to this Software, and any rights not specifically granted to you are reserved. You may not reverse-engineer, disassemble, decompile, debug, or translate this Software, or otherwise attempt to derive the source code of this Software or any proprietary algorithms or data (including, but not limited to, Bookmarks), contained therein.

Last edited by seawolf; Nov 10, 2014 at 5:07 pm Reason: KVS requested KVS' email address be removed
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Old Nov 10, 2014, 4:07 pm
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Originally Posted by seawolf
What exactly have I violated?
The part that you have, yourself, highlighted is the relevant one.
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Old Nov 10, 2014, 5:06 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS
The part that you have, yourself, highlighted is the relevant one.
And specifically what did I do/when did I do this?
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Old Nov 10, 2014, 5:33 pm
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Originally Posted by seawolf
And specifically what did I do/when did I do this?
Specific examples can be found in Posts #7247 & #7207.
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Old Nov 10, 2014, 6:19 pm
  #7628  
 
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Hello KVS tool team.
I've been having problems with VS and BA methods lately. (started about a week ago). Error codes are the same 12057:Gopher- attribute not found . Tried switching default browser, but it didn't help. Running latest 7.7.0 Do you have any suggestions how to fix that?
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Old Nov 10, 2014, 6:33 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS
Specific examples can be found in Posts #7247 & #7207.
For reference:

7247:
Originally Posted by seawolf
To be fair, according to Fiddler, I do believe KVS is sending a KVS specific user agent when I used it to monitor traffic to British Airways.
7207:
Originally Posted by seawolf
No skills required. Just install Fiddler.

Now that KVS has reveal their questionable business model, I've changed all my FFP login/passwords. Who knows if they get routed to KVS servers or not especially since reverse engineering the program is against their ToS. I have a legitimate GTC account and no way I'm putting those credentials into KVS.
Seems like KVS is being a little aggressive, given that what seawolf did was simply monitor what's going on with their computer.

I'm disappointed in KVS' recent actions, and their further response to questions. Of course they never told users to abuse a institution's lack of security, they just provided "hints".

KVS is certainly a useful tool, and I actually didn't even use availability (ExpertFlyer for that). But even though the award searching seems to be fine, I don't expect to be renewing (which, unfortunately, won't be until September 2015). I'll lose some of the convenience, but I don't feel that KVS is worth supporting for now.
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Old Nov 10, 2014, 6:52 pm
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Originally Posted by DennisSFO
Hello KVS tool team.
I've been having problems with VS and BA methods lately. (started about a week ago). Error codes are the same 12057:Gopher- attribute not found . Tried switching default browser, but it didn't help. Running latest 7.7.0 Do you have any suggestions how to fix that?
Please see Error 12057 at http://Errors.KVSTool.com/ for a solution.
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Old Nov 10, 2014, 7:52 pm
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Since Fiddler is breaking the licence agreement for the KVS scraper tool, perhaps I can be of assistance and provide (most of) the URL strings in the KVS binary. Since I've never paid for KVS I've never accepted any licence agreement. Perhaps this could be useful for anyone seeking to determine whether they're breaking the Ts&Cs of any site they're scraping:
Code:
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConline/en/OverrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConline/en/SeatMapPreviewServlet
http://data.flight24.com/flights/
http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_eticket/recibo_eticket.cgi
http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConline/en/OverrideServlet
https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
https://booking.qatarairways.com/qribe-web/public/showBooking.action
https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/servicing/retrievePNR
https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plnext/XCMTXITN/RetrievePNR.action
https://en.aegeanair.com
https://eservice.evaair.com
https://flymas.mobi/itravel/viewBooking.xhtml
https://fly.rj.com/MyBookings/Home/EN/Default.aspx
http://skyvector.com/airport/
https://m.aeroflot.ru/b/info/pnr/load
https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
https://mobile1.emirates.com/myb/review.xhtml
https://myb.s7.ru/getMyBooking.action
https://mytripandmore.com/Itinerary.aspx
https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWeb/notamRetrievalByICAOAction.do
https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://raw.github.com/opentraveldata/optd/trunk/refdata/ORI/ori_airlines.csv
https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
https://wftc3.e-travel.com
https://wtrweb.worldtracer.aero/WorldTracerWeb/pax.do
https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/SectionMileCalc_en.do
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/ETDisplay.tk
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/getPnr.tk
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
https://www.airberlin.com/en-DE/cockpit
https://www.aircanada.com
https://www.airfrance.fr/cgi-bin/AF/FR/en/local/process/standard/rebooking/ValidateSearchPnrAction.do
https://www.alaskaair.com/booking/reservationlookup
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines.com/plnext/saudiairlinesb2b/Override.action
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines.com/pl/SaudiAirlines/wds/Override.action
https://www.britishairways.com/travel/managebooking/public/en_gb
https://www.checkmytrip.com/CMTSERVLET
https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
https://www.finnair.com
https://www.flysas.com
https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
https://www.lot.com
https://www.lufthansa.com
https://www.routehappy.com/
https://www.swiss.com
https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
https://www.tripple.jp
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/apps/reservation/default.aspx
https://www.viewtrip.com/GetItin.aspx
https://www.virginamerica.com/book/ow/a1/
https://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/gb/manageyourflights/updatebooking/findBooking.next
https://www.virtuallythere.com/new/reservations.html
http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/
http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi
http://www.airframes.org/fleet/
http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_HK/manage-booking/manage-booking/manage-booking-now.html
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
http://www.flightradar24.com/
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/FlightRating/flightRatingByFlight.do
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByFlight.do
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/FlightTrackerQueryResults.asp
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/viewairport.asp
http://www.gcmap.com/airport/
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui
http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pages/airline-list.aspx
http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
http://www.myairlines.ru
http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-seating-maps/checkmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/default//includes/validate_airline.php
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
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Old Nov 10, 2014, 8:01 pm
  #7632  
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: IL
Posts: 270
I was also accused of breaking the user agreement, with no evidence.
I was asked to provide source of all (yes, all) of my posts.
I provided an example of public information and I was told this was not good as that public information could have been obtained with a violation of the user agreement.
Now I have been provided specific posts that are in violation of the user agreement.
I have agreed to provide the specific example of the public information for each post to provide evidence my post was based on public information.

It is very arrogant and ignorant to assume KVS is the only software/person capable of scraping a website.
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Old Nov 10, 2014, 8:11 pm
  #7633  
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: WAS
Posts: 3,010
Originally Posted by angatol
Since Fiddler is breaking the licence agreement for the KVS scraper tool, perhaps I can be of assistance and provide (most of) the URL strings in the KVS binary. Since I've never paid for KVS I've never accepted any licence agreement. Perhaps this could be useful for anyone seeking to determine whether they're breaking the Ts&Cs of any site they're scraping:
Code:
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConline/en/OverrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConline/en/SeatMapPreviewServlet
http://data.flight24.com/flights/
http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_eticket/recibo_eticket.cgi
http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConline/en/OverrideServlet
https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
https://booking.qatarairways.com/qribe-web/public/showBooking.action
https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/servicing/retrievePNR
https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plnext/XCMTXITN/RetrievePNR.action
https://en.aegeanair.com
https://eservice.evaair.com
https://flymas.mobi/itravel/viewBooking.xhtml
https://fly.rj.com/MyBookings/Home/EN/Default.aspx
http://skyvector.com/airport/
https://m.aeroflot.ru/b/info/pnr/load
https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
https://mobile1.emirates.com/myb/review.xhtml
https://myb.s7.ru/getMyBooking.action
https://mytripandmore.com/Itinerary.aspx
https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWeb/notamRetrievalByICAOAction.do
https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://raw.github.com/opentraveldata/optd/trunk/refdata/ORI/ori_airlines.csv
https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
https://wftc3.e-travel.com
https://wtrweb.worldtracer.aero/WorldTracerWeb/pax.do
https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/SectionMileCalc_en.do
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/ETDisplay.tk
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/getPnr.tk
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
https://www.airberlin.com/en-DE/cockpit
https://www.aircanada.com
https://www.airfrance.fr/cgi-bin/AF/FR/en/local/process/standard/rebooking/ValidateSearchPnrAction.do
https://www.alaskaair.com/booking/reservationlookup
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines.com/plnext/saudiairlinesb2b/Override.action
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines.com/pl/SaudiAirlines/wds/Override.action
https://www.britishairways.com/travel/managebooking/public/en_gb
https://www.checkmytrip.com/CMTSERVLET
https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
https://www.finnair.com
https://www.flysas.com
https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
https://www.lot.com
https://www.lufthansa.com
https://www.routehappy.com/
https://www.swiss.com
https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
https://www.tripple.jp
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/apps/reservation/default.aspx
https://www.viewtrip.com/GetItin.aspx
https://www.virginamerica.com/book/ow/a1/
https://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/gb/manageyourflights/updatebooking/findBooking.next
https://www.virtuallythere.com/new/reservations.html
http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/
http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi
http://www.airframes.org/fleet/
http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_HK/manage-booking/manage-booking/manage-booking-now.html
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
http://www.flightradar24.com/
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/FlightRating/flightRatingByFlight.do
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByFlight.do
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/FlightTrackerQueryResults.asp
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/viewairport.asp
http://www.gcmap.com/airport/
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui
http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pages/airline-list.aspx
http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
http://www.myairlines.ru
http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-seating-maps/checkmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/default//includes/validate_airline.php
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
Thanks for sharing.
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Old Nov 10, 2014, 8:11 pm
  #7634  
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: IL
Posts: 270
Originally Posted by zozeppelin
The question was for the moderators because you have a demonstrated a habit of avoiding answering the questions, even with very specific. I look forward to their response.

Good example, you address this post by myself (directed at the moderators) but ignore the preceding post questioning functionality of your product (which had a direct question to yourself).

Please avoid these specific questions:
1) Does KVS Tool have the authorization of Amadeus through the use of wftc2.e-travel.com to provide schedule information?
2) Prove instructions to replicate access to schedule information with any other web browser [don't worry, I know you can't, because real web browsers have no method to generatre the http post commands required to provide the information as Amadeus provides no linked access to that server]
3) Define Web Scraper [hint: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_scraping]

The irony of this post is that KVS took the time to read the post so he could accuse me of violating the user agreement but didn't take time to answer the questions.

And the source for this known prior art:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...-schedule.html
http://wftc2.e-travel.com/plnext/AIE...HE&LANGUAGE=GB
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Old Nov 10, 2014, 9:24 pm
  #7635  
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: IL
Posts: 270
Originally Posted by zozeppelin
Yep, it's garbage. At first I thought it was validating (enforcing adv purchase, min/max duration, fare class availability) but I've ruled that out.

Next mole up?

_____

Corrections:
I messed up assuming rubles but is dinari - fares seem ok.
Does not appear to be validating fares.
As you mention you can send the additional query to get the fare basis. Why this isn't done automatically is interesting, maybe a web browser has limitations?
Appears the routing rules is now not going to KVS but to [redacted], which ironically also isn't working.

Links showing publicly available prior art:
http://www.mereli.com/

Last edited by zozeppelin; Nov 11, 2014 at 6:58 pm Reason: edited at request of KVS to continue my use of tool
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