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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?
The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).
Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.
Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
Terms of Use:
http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:
http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:
http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:
http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:
https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
Terms of Use:
https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:
https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:
https://en.aegeanair.com
Terms of Use:
https://eservice.evaair.com
Terms of Use:
https://flymas.mobi/itravel/viewBooking.xhtml
Terms of Use:
https://fly.rj.com/MyBookings/Home/EN/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://skyvector.com/airport/
Terms of Use:
https://m.aeroflot.ru/b/info/pnr/load
Terms of Use:
https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://mobile1.emirates.com/myb/review.xhtml
Terms of Use:
https://myb.s7.ru/getMyBooking.action
Terms of Use:
https://mytripandmore.com/Itinerary.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:
https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:
https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
Terms of Use:
https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://wftc3.e-travel.com
Terms of Use:
https://wtrweb.worldtracer.aero/WorldTracerWeb/pax.do
Terms of Use:
https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/S...MileCalc_en.do
Terms of Use:
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/ETDisplay.tk
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/getPnr.tk
Terms of Use:
https://www.airberlin.com/en-DE/cockpit
Terms of Use:
https://www.airfrance.fr/cgi-bin/AF/...chPnrAction.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.alaskaair.com/booking/reservationlookup
Terms of Use:
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
Terms of Use:
https://www.britishairways.com/trave...g/public/en_gb
Terms of Use:
https://www.checkmytrip.com/CMTSERVLET
Terms of Use:
https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
Terms of Use:
https://www.finnair.com
Terms of Use:
https://www.flysas.com
Terms of Use:
https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.lot.com
Terms of Use:
https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:
https://www.routehappy.com/
Terms of Use:
https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:
https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.tripple.jp
Terms of Use:
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://www.viewtrip.com/GetItin.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://www.virginamerica.com/book/ow/a1/
Terms of Use:
https://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/g...ndBooking.next
Terms of Use:
https://www.virtuallythere.com/new/reservations.html
Terms of Use:
http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/
Terms of Use:
http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi
Terms of Use:
http://www.airframes.org/fleet/
Terms of Use:
http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...oking-now.html
Terms of Use:
http://www.flightradar24.com/
Terms of Use:
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...ingByFlight.do
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...tusByFlight.do
Terms of Use:
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTool...eryResults.asp
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/viewairport.asp
Terms of Use:
http://www.gcmap.com/airport/
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui
Terms of Use:
http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
Terms of Use:
http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.myairlines.ru
Terms of Use:
http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
Terms of Use:
http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
Terms of Use:
http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
Terms of Use:
http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
Terms of Use:
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
Terms of Use:
The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).
Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.
Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;
http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:
http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Websites information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:
Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.
This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.
Websites information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:
Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.
This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.
http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:
http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:
http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.
http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.
https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:
http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.
3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
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3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.
3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
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3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.
https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
Terms of Use:
https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:
https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);
https://en.aegeanair.com
Terms of Use:
https://eservice.evaair.com
Terms of Use:
https://flymas.mobi/itravel/viewBooking.xhtml
Terms of Use:
https://fly.rj.com/MyBookings/Home/EN/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://skyvector.com/airport/
Terms of Use:
https://m.aeroflot.ru/b/info/pnr/load
Terms of Use:
https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://mobile1.emirates.com/myb/review.xhtml
Terms of Use:
https://myb.s7.ru/getMyBooking.action
Terms of Use:
https://mytripandmore.com/Itinerary.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
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9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
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9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,
https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:
https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
Intellectual property notifications
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D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
E. You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
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Limitations on your use:
You agree that you will not Misuse the Site. "Misuse" includes, but is not limited to, using the Site to do any of the following:
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L. Copy or create derivative works from, display, distribute, license, perform, publish, recreate, reproduce, sell, transfer, or transmit any information, products, services, or software obtained by, from, or through the Site.
M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.
Intellectual property notifications
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D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
E. You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
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Limitations on your use:
You agree that you will not Misuse the Site. "Misuse" includes, but is not limited to, using the Site to do any of the following:
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L. Copy or create derivative works from, display, distribute, license, perform, publish, recreate, reproduce, sell, transfer, or transmit any information, products, services, or software obtained by, from, or through the Site.
M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.
https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
Terms of Use:
https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
Prohibited Activities
You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.
You may not copy, derive, edit, translate, decompile, reverse engineer, modify, use, or reproduce any code or source relating to our sites, including without limitation, any service or product Southwest offers.
You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.
You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.
When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.
You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.
Prohibited Activities
You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.
You may not copy, derive, edit, translate, decompile, reverse engineer, modify, use, or reproduce any code or source relating to our sites, including without limitation, any service or product Southwest offers.
You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.
You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.
When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.
You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.
https://wftc3.e-travel.com
Terms of Use:
https://wtrweb.worldtracer.aero/WorldTracerWeb/pax.do
Terms of Use:
https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/S...MileCalc_en.do
Terms of Use:
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/ETDisplay.tk
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/getPnr.tk
Terms of Use:
https://www.airberlin.com/en-DE/cockpit
Terms of Use:
https://www.airfrance.fr/cgi-bin/AF/...chPnrAction.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.alaskaair.com/booking/reservationlookup
Terms of Use:
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
Terms of Use:
https://www.britishairways.com/trave...g/public/en_gb
Terms of Use:
https://www.checkmytrip.com/CMTSERVLET
Terms of Use:
https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions
3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);
3. Licence restrictions
3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);
https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
Terms of Use:
https://www.finnair.com
Terms of Use:
https://www.flysas.com
Terms of Use:
https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.lot.com
Terms of Use:
https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en
2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.
2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.
Terms of Use:
https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:
https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.tripple.jp
Terms of Use:
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without Uniteds prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without Uniteds prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.
https://www.viewtrip.com/GetItin.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://www.virginamerica.com/book/ow/a1/
Terms of Use:
https://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/g...ndBooking.next
Terms of Use:
https://www.virtuallythere.com/new/reservations.html
Terms of Use:
http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/
Terms of Use:
http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi
Terms of Use:
http://www.airframes.org/fleet/
Terms of Use:
http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...oking-now.html
Terms of Use:
http://www.flightradar24.com/
Terms of Use:
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...ingByFlight.do
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...tusByFlight.do
Terms of Use:
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTool...eryResults.asp
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/viewairport.asp
Terms of Use:
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KVS Availability Tool
#7486




Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 668
I'm sure that every website you scrape illegally would have a problem with you scraping them or to put it in your words, developing a "browser" that allows us to scrape the data so you officially are not violating any T&Cs but we do by using your tool.
I'm sure this is not the right approach from your side. I know you are getting a lot of hate recently from many folks and I always loved your tool cause it allows us to do many things one could not do without direct GDS access but part of the business is also the support and there is some lack there.
You have to make it clear to the customer that you are providing a tool that scrapes the data from data providers without their knowing and that this source can end at any time.
And I'm not violoating any agreements when I look into what TCP requests my device sends out to the internet, I'm not changing any code or do reverse engineering, I just look at my traffic, thats it.
#7487
FlyerTalk Evangelist



Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Upper Sternistan
Posts: 10,679
So let's crowdsource reverse-engineer this! Not the whole program, but let's figure out where the data comes from and how we can navigate to it in a *traditional* web browser (also known as a "web browser") and get there without KVS. May not be as elegant, but it should last longer and it'll certainly not give any more money to this joker.
I don't have the skills to lead, but I can follow if someone wants to give it a shot.
I don't have the skills to lead, but I can follow if someone wants to give it a shot.
#7488

Join Date: May 2007
Location: YYZ, but my heart is in Asia
Programs: AC-SE, CX-DM, DL-G, Hyatt-DM, Hilton-DM, Fairmont-Plt, Marriott-S, Accor-Plt, SPG-G, IHG-Plt
Posts: 4,396
So let's crowdsource reverse-engineer this! Not the whole program, but let's figure out where the data comes from and how we can navigate to it in a *traditional* web browser (also known as a "web browser") and get there without KVS. May not be as elegant, but it should last longer and it'll certainly not give any more money to this joker.
I don't have the skills to lead, but I can follow if someone wants to give it a shot.
I don't have the skills to lead, but I can follow if someone wants to give it a shot.
I don't have the know-how. If I did, I would make a scraper to scrape EF or a bunch of other websites, like automatically requesting upgrades when the window opens, automatically re-seat when a seat opens etc.
Please don't ruin the party by putting KVS out of business. He is serving me (and probably a bunch of others) well.
If you want to use a traditional web browser, use EF!!
#7489
Original Member




Join Date: May 1998
Location: NYC
Programs: AA 2MM, Bonvoy LTT, Hilton Gold
Posts: 15,009
So let's crowdsource reverse-engineer this! Not the whole program, but let's figure out where the data comes from and how we can navigate to it in a *traditional* web browser (also known as a "web browser") and get there without KVS. May not be as elegant, but it should last longer and it'll certainly not give any more money to this joker.
I don't have the skills to lead, but I can follow if someone wants to give it a shot.
I don't have the skills to lead, but I can follow if someone wants to give it a shot.
Now that KVS has reveal their questionable business model, I've changed all my FFP login/passwords. Who knows if they get routed to KVS servers or not especially since reverse engineering the program is against their ToS. I have a legitimate GTC account and no way I'm putting those credentials into KVS.
#7490




Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 668
Now that KVS has reveal their questionable business model, I've changed all my FFP login/passwords. Who knows if they get routed to KVS servers or not especially since reverse engineering the program is against their ToS. I have a legitimate GTC account and no way I'm putting those credentials into KVS.
Also if someone books an award flight with your miles you would know their exact name and DOB unless they fly with a fake passport.
So I'd guess its pretty safe that nobody steals any miles from us
#7491
Original Member




Join Date: May 1998
Location: NYC
Programs: AA 2MM, Bonvoy LTT, Hilton Gold
Posts: 15,009
Let's go back to how this started. Flightstats pulled the plug.
KVS instead of sending a "Sorry of the inconvenience but the flight availability feature is no longer available; here's a pro-rated refund or extension" email, provides some dodgy instruction on how to obtain a GTC account which was clearly not intended or available to the general public. Essentially KVS is having you, the donor, take on the legal risk of accessing a system which you have no permission to access so that he can keep his donations coming in.
If KVS is going out of business, it would be due to his PR skills (or lack of - especially with the bit about violating his ToS to provide the data sites it access when his tool is violating multiple ToS from the underlying data providers).
But I highly doubt KVS is going out of business. As KVS mentioned, the program is a tool (not a data service - no data center - no long term agreements with GDS etc). Initial development might have been an effort but the continuing updates is something a single individual could maintain so essentially KVS has low overhead associated with this program.
KVS instead of sending a "Sorry of the inconvenience but the flight availability feature is no longer available; here's a pro-rated refund or extension" email, provides some dodgy instruction on how to obtain a GTC account which was clearly not intended or available to the general public. Essentially KVS is having you, the donor, take on the legal risk of accessing a system which you have no permission to access so that he can keep his donations coming in.
If KVS is going out of business, it would be due to his PR skills (or lack of - especially with the bit about violating his ToS to provide the data sites it access when his tool is violating multiple ToS from the underlying data providers).
But I highly doubt KVS is going out of business. As KVS mentioned, the program is a tool (not a data service - no data center - no long term agreements with GDS etc). Initial development might have been an effort but the continuing updates is something a single individual could maintain so essentially KVS has low overhead associated with this program.
#7492
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Bye Delta
Programs: AA EXP, UA Silver, HH Diamond, IHG Plat, Hyatt Plat, Marriott Titanium, Nat'l EE, Avis PC, Hertz PC
Posts: 16,635
KVS is a specialized web browser. One that I'm prohibited from ascertaining which websites it visits, yet I assume all the responsibility for accessing such websites?
That's cute.
Even if I knew how to get every bit of info from direct web access, I still prefer to use the KVS Tool. It's so much more convenient!!
I don't have the know-how. If I did, I would make a scraper to scrape EF or a bunch of other websites, like automatically requesting upgrades when the window opens, automatically re-seat when a seat opens etc.
Please don't ruin the party by putting KVS out of business. He is serving me (and probably a bunch of others) well.
If you want to use a traditional web browser, use EF!!
I don't have the know-how. If I did, I would make a scraper to scrape EF or a bunch of other websites, like automatically requesting upgrades when the window opens, automatically re-seat when a seat opens etc.
Please don't ruin the party by putting KVS out of business. He is serving me (and probably a bunch of others) well.
If you want to use a traditional web browser, use EF!!
Last edited by javabytes; Nov 3, 2014 at 4:46 pm
#7493




Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 668
KVS instead of sending a "Sorry of the inconvenience but the flight availability feature is no longer available; here's a pro-rated refund or extension" email, provides some dodgy instruction on how to obtain a GTC account which was clearly not intended or available to the general public. Essentially KVS is having you, the donor, take on the legal risk of accessing a system which you have no permission to access so that he can keep his donations coming in.
If KVS is going out of business, it would be due to his PR skills (or lack of - especially with the bit about violating his ToS to provide the data sites it access when his tool is violating multiple ToS from the underlying data providers).
If KVS is going out of business, it would be due to his PR skills (or lack of - especially with the bit about violating his ToS to provide the data sites it access when his tool is violating multiple ToS from the underlying data providers).
I'm still happy about KVS in general, I love the tool and I used it many times in the past, especially the availability and the base fare listings. Really handy for finding error fares etc. but its kinda stressful when it changes every day and there is no consistency and I also have to update it every day
#7494
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Bye Delta
Programs: AA EXP, UA Silver, HH Diamond, IHG Plat, Hyatt Plat, Marriott Titanium, Nat'l EE, Avis PC, Hertz PC
Posts: 16,635
I'm still happy about KVS in general, I love the tool and I used it many times in the past, especially the availability and the base fare listings. Really handy for finding error fares etc. but its kinda stressful when it changes every day and there is no consistency and I also have to update it every day 

#7495
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Between AUS, EWR, and YTO In a little twisty maze of airline seats, all alike.. but I wanna go home with the armadillo
Programs: CO, NW, & UA forum moderator emeritus. Eurobonus Millionaire
Posts: 38,648
se sources are drying up? Could it be because someone is (despite protestations to the contrary) selling access to a thousand or two people -- at a rather hefty profit? Based on past experience I think that is an entirely reasonable conclusion to draw. As pointed out above, those whose data is being misused have to pay for its misuse. The fact that they are unhappy about what is going on is certainly understandable.As far as continuing to pay, I'd be careful because the whack-a-mole for data business model is conducive to neither customer service nor the longevity of a business. There is zero guarantee that the data you pay KVS for today will be available tomorrow. When you go back to KVS to complain you'll be told that all you did was pay to use a 'browser' and that he'll try to find a substitute. In the mean time, he has your money. That is what quite a few people have discovered of late.
#7496
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Bye Delta
Programs: AA EXP, UA Silver, HH Diamond, IHG Plat, Hyatt Plat, Marriott Titanium, Nat'l EE, Avis PC, Hertz PC
Posts: 16,635
Paying someone to find this data and make it available to you is absolutely causing it to be publicly unavailable. And why do you think th
se sources are drying up? Could it be because someone is (despite protestations to the contrary) selling access to a thousand or two people -- at a rather hefty profit? Based on past experience I think that is an entirely reasonable conclusion to draw. As pointed out above, those whose data is being misused have to pay for its misuse. The fact that they are unhappy about what is going on is certainly understandable.
As far as continuing to pay, I'd be careful because the whack-a-mole for data business model is conducive to neither customer service nor the longevity of a business. There is zero guarantee that the data you pay KVS for today will be available tomorrow. When you go back to KVS to complain you'll be told that all you did was pay to use a 'browser' and that he'll try to find a substitute. In the mean time, he has your money. That is what quite a few people have discovered of late.
se sources are drying up? Could it be because someone is (despite protestations to the contrary) selling access to a thousand or two people -- at a rather hefty profit? Based on past experience I think that is an entirely reasonable conclusion to draw. As pointed out above, those whose data is being misused have to pay for its misuse. The fact that they are unhappy about what is going on is certainly understandable.As far as continuing to pay, I'd be careful because the whack-a-mole for data business model is conducive to neither customer service nor the longevity of a business. There is zero guarantee that the data you pay KVS for today will be available tomorrow. When you go back to KVS to complain you'll be told that all you did was pay to use a 'browser' and that he'll try to find a substitute. In the mean time, he has your money. That is what quite a few people have discovered of late.
#7497
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: MAN/BHX
Programs: ABBA
Posts: 6,027
I used the flightstats data frequently, and had no problem with the site. However I imagine each hit of the data was costing a far bit, and the adverts barely convert the cost. With a large number of people accessing it without loading the adverts flightstats were simply subsidising people who were willing to pay, just not willing to pay the right people.
The KVS model is like buying and selling pirate DVDs. Worse, as someone is actually losing out every time you did a search on KVS.
Like HiDDY and many more I assume LVS was a legitimate service, and had it actually run on a modern platform (I.e. Anything but windows) I may well have subscribe in the past. That was before I knew of the imorral business it really is.
The KVS model is like buying and selling pirate DVDs. Worse, as someone is actually losing out every time you did a search on KVS.
Like HiDDY and many more I assume LVS was a legitimate service, and had it actually run on a modern platform (I.e. Anything but windows) I may well have subscribe in the past. That was before I knew of the imorral business it really is.
#7498




Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 554
It's not a big mystery... any method which requires credentials in a given FFP gets info from that site. But I still prefer KVS because of how the data gets centralized and searching is more flexible.
#7499




Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,946
Help on GTC credentials
How do I enrol in GTC to search availability in KVS (I'm a Diamond member with KVS)? Can anyone help search AC R class Nov 6/YYZ-LHR, return Nov 9/LHR-YYZ?
#7500
FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Jun 2012
Programs: BA Gold, QF WP
Posts: 12,551
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Flight Availability Search
Departing YYZ on 11/06/14 12:00 AM for LHR
Returning on 11/09/14 12:00 AM
Flying AC
Frequency
Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes
0 Connections
AC 868 0 YYZ LHR 763 Th J1 C0 D0 Z0 P0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L0 K0 R0
11/06/14 8:15 AM 11/06/14 8:30 PM 84% / 18m
0 Connections
AC 856 0 YYZ LHR 763 M,Th,F,Sa J4 C2 D2 Z0 P0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W8 S5 T4 L0 K0 R0
11/06/14 6:10 PM 11/07/14 6:25 AM 63% / 25m
0 Connections
AC 848 0 YYZ LHR 77W Su,T,W,Th,F,Sa J5 C5 D3 Z0 P0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T0 L0 K0 R0
11/06/14 8:30 PM 11/07/14 8:25 AM 50% / 26m
0 Connections
AC 858 0 YYZ LHR 788 M,Th J8 C6 D3 Z0 P0 O6 E0 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L0 K0 R0
11/06/14 11:55 PM 11/07/14 11:50 AM 58% / 29m



