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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:
http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Websites information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:

http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:
http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:
http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
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3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
Terms of Use:

https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:

https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://en.aegeanair.com
Terms of Use:

https://eservice.evaair.com
Terms of Use:

https://flymas.mobi/itravel/viewBooking.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://fly.rj.com/MyBookings/Home/EN/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://skyvector.com/airport/
Terms of Use:

https://m.aeroflot.ru/b/info/pnr/load
Terms of Use:

https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://mobile1.emirates.com/myb/review.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://myb.s7.ru/getMyBooking.action
Terms of Use:

https://mytripandmore.com/Itinerary.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
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https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
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https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
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https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
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You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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https://wftc3.e-travel.com
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https://wtrweb.worldtracer.aero/WorldTracerWeb/pax.do
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https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/S...MileCalc_en.do
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https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/ETDisplay.tk
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/getPnr.tk
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https://www.airberlin.com/en-DE/cockpit
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https://www.airfrance.fr/cgi-bin/AF/...chPnrAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.alaskaair.com/booking/reservationlookup
Terms of Use:

https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
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https://www.britishairways.com/trave...g/public/en_gb
Terms of Use:

https://www.checkmytrip.com/CMTSERVLET
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https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
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https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
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https://www.finnair.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.flysas.com
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https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.lot.com
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https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

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https://www.routehappy.com/
Terms of Use:

https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
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https://www.tripple.jp
Terms of Use:

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:
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https://www.viewtrip.com/GetItin.aspx
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https://www.virginamerica.com/book/ow/a1/
Terms of Use:

https://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/g...ndBooking.next
Terms of Use:

https://www.virtuallythere.com/new/reservations.html
Terms of Use:

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/
Terms of Use:

http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi
Terms of Use:

http://www.airframes.org/fleet/
Terms of Use:

http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...oking-now.html
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightradar24.com/
Terms of Use:

http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...ingByFlight.do
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...tusByFlight.do
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightview.com/TravelTool...eryResults.asp
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/viewairport.asp
Terms of Use:

http://www.gcmap.com/airport/
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui
Terms of Use:
http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
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A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
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http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
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http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
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http://www.myairlines.ru
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http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
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Old Jun 2, 2013 | 11:45 pm
  #5986  
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Originally Posted by KVS
At the moment, AF-KL is reporting no Award Availability on KL to AMS:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.0/Diamond - Awards/SkyTeam/US-AF]
Code:
IAH  Houston George Bush Intercnt'l TX US [KIAH]
AMS  Amsterdam Schiphol NL [EHAM]
MON  03 Jun 2013 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
AF         639     IAH   16:00     CDG   08:35 +1           CS+  WS+  YS+
 -> AF     1640    CDG   11:40 +1  AMS   12:55 +1
AF         639     IAH   16:00     CDG   08:35 +1           CS+  WS+  YS+
 -> AF     1740    CDG   12:35 +1  AMS   13:50 +1
AF         639     IAH   16:00     CDG   08:35 +1           CS+  WS+  YS+
 -> AF     1140    CDG   16:40 +1  AMS   17:55 +1
AF         639     IAH   16:00     CDG   08:35 +1           CS+  WS+  YS+
 -> AF     1440    CDG   17:50 +1  AMS   19:05 +1
If there is no availability on AF/KL system, why the search option in DL for KVS shows availability on KL?

Another example, June 4th:

Using Method Awards/DL-Skyteam (Quick option), shows availability on KL IAH-AMS on CS+. However, using Method Awards/Skyteam, same flight shows only availability on CM+ (not CS).

Delta.com does not show any availability, even though KVS is showing availability. Why is that?

Last edited by Flyer IAH; Jun 2, 2013 at 11:53 pm
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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 12:17 am
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Originally Posted by Flyer IAH
Another example, June 4th:

Using Method Awards/DL-Skyteam (Quick option), shows availability on KL IAH-AMS on CS+. However, using Method Awards/Skyteam, same flight shows only availability on CM+ (not CS).
It should actually be CS and not CM -- a KVS Tool update will be released shortly:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.2.0/Diamond - Awards/SkyTeam/US-AF]
Code:
IAH  Houston George Bush Intercnt'l TX US [KIAH]
AMS  Amsterdam Schiphol NL [EHAM]
TUE  04 Jun 2013 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
KL         662     IAH   15:10     AMS   07:30 +1           CS+  WX/  YX+
Originally Posted by Flyer IAH
Delta.com does not show any availability, even though KVS is showing availability. Why is that?
DL.com will display this flight if you search Awards by Schedule.
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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 1:09 am
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Originally Posted by KVS
No, a YS Award would cost 22 500 miles:

http://www.Delta.com/content/www/en_...hern-asia.html
But DL does not permit one way awards, so 45000 is the correct price for a round trip or a one way. Of course, it would be in your best interests to book the former, or an open jaw.

Originally Posted by Flyer IAH
If there is no availability on AF/KL system, why the search option in DL for KVS shows availability on KL?

Another example, June 4th:

Using Method Awards/DL-Skyteam (Quick option), shows availability on KL IAH-AMS on CS+. However, using Method Awards/Skyteam, same flight shows only availability on CM+ (not CS).

Delta.com does not show any availability, even though KVS is showing availability. Why is that?
Phantom KLM availability through Delta..
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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 8:35 am
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Originally Posted by KVS
It should actually be CS and not CM -- a KVS Tool update will be released shortly:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.2.0/Diamond - Awards/SkyTeam/US-AF]
Code:
IAH  Houston George Bush Intercnt'l TX US [KIAH]
AMS  Amsterdam Schiphol NL [EHAM]
TUE  04 Jun 2013 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
KL         662     IAH   15:10     AMS   07:30 +1           CS+  WX/  YX+


DL.com will display this flight if you search Awards by Schedule.
Delta.com shows this flight in search by schedule but then gives you an error. Called Delta and they mention there is no such availability. So my point is that KVS is showing a flight available that is actually not bookable.
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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 8:38 am
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Originally Posted by belfordrocks

Phantom KLM availability through Delta..
Is this Phantom KLM availability through Delta a new occurrence? Is this KLM or Delta's fault, and how do you get around this?
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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 9:40 am
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Originally Posted by belfordrocks
Phantom KLM availability through Delta..
It is not "phantom", as AF-KL confirms positive Award Availability on that flight. However, KL may be blocking the redemption.

Originally Posted by Flyer IAH
Delta.com shows this flight in search by schedule but then gives you an error. Called Delta and they mention there is no such availability. So my point is that KVS is showing a flight available that is actually not bookable.
That question would be best directed to DL (who are showing that flight as having positive Award Availability), and/or KL (who may be blocking the redemption).
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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 3:45 pm
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I have a question looking at CX availability. On KVS it shows a flight as F1. When go to a website such as kayak or Cathay's own website and attempt to book a 1 way on the exact same flight I see as F1 on KVS for 2 seats, it will allow me to do so. Kayak.com even says that there are 5 seats left!

Any idea what is going on?

Thanks
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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 4:39 pm
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Originally Posted by Flyer IAH
Is this Phantom KLM availability through Delta a new occurrence? Is this KLM or Delta's fault, and how do you get around this?
Basically No..... I tried a lot to get mine ticketed. Some have reported that they were able to get DL agents to manually book it for them. I tried that with a number of agents but didn't get anywhere.

There is no pattern or logic to how/why KLM gives award seats to DL. Some flights you can book and some you can't. But yes KVS is right, the seats show up and DL agents can see them but when they go to book the seats come as blocked.
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Old Jun 3, 2013 | 7:32 pm
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Originally Posted by honghong322
I have a question looking at CX availability. On KVS it shows a flight as F1. When go to a website such as kayak or Cathay's own website and attempt to book a 1 way on the exact same flight I see as F1 on KVS for 2 seats, it will allow me to do so. Kayak.com even says that there are 5 seats left!

Any idea what is going on?
What's the Flight #/Date?
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Old Jun 4, 2013 | 4:38 pm
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Help - KVS has gone haywire

I run KVS under Crossover on an iMac.

All of a sudden - every time I started KVS it went into some sort of a loop without me doing anything (i.e. entering a search request) - it displayed the searching info at the bottom of the screen - then after about 5 minutes gave some sort of error (message box changed each time). After various "force quit" attempts I re-booted and everything seemed OK - but on entering a new search - it just hangs showing the Mac "hourglass" - I can't stop or quit the app - I presume I can Force Quit Crossover.

How do I get things back on track?
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Old Jun 4, 2013 | 7:10 pm
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Originally Posted by pschafer
How do I get things back on track?
Did you make any recent changes to CrossOver or your Mac?
If the issue persists, please provide a screenshot via http://Contact.KVSTool.com/
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Old Jun 4, 2013 | 7:19 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS
Did you make any recent changes to CrossOver or your Mac?
If the issue persists, please provide a screenshot via http://Contact.KVSTool.com/
I made no changes whatsoever - it just started looping from one query to the next. After many process kills and re-boots - KVS just seem to keep searching (info line on the bottom shows result count in the 1000's) then gets a timeout error.

I am at the stage of trying to un-install and re-install to see if that helps. I can send a screenshot but I don't think that will provide any additional information - all types of searches fail after "looping" for 5+ minutes. (Note KVS is still working fine on my iMac - it's my MacBook that is failing.)

UPDATE - I un-installed KVS using the KVS un-install utility and then removed the "bottle" from Crossover then re-installed KVS - it is now working fine.

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I am running a search for *A availability on UA from NYC to ORD for Sun July 14 using the Awards/Star Alliance option with the default setting of JP-ANA +3D.

The latest flight in the list that comes up is for a 17:05 departure. I can see though from a timetable search that there are a couple more UA flights later than this. Am I doing something wrong - or are these later flights somehow "hidden" for award availability through the ANA system?
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Originally Posted by GinFizz
I am running a search for *A availability on UA from NYC to ORD for Sun July 14 using the Awards/Star Alliance option with the default setting of JP-ANA +3D.

The latest flight in the list that comes up is for a 17:05 departure. I can see though from a timetable search that there are a couple more UA flights later than this. Am I doing something wrong - or are these later flights somehow "hidden" for award availability through the ANA system?
They are not "hidden", but there are just too many of them.

You would need to use the [Awards/AC-StarAlliance] / [Awards-Upgrades/UA] Methods to see the remaining flights:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.2.0/Diamond - Awards/AC-StarAlliance/CA]
Code:
EWR  New York Newark Liberty Intl NJ US [KEWR]
ORD  Chicago O'Hare Intl IL US [KORD]
SUN  14 Jul 2013 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
UA         1492    EWR   06:40     ORD   08:06     738  0   CS+  YS+
UA         759     EWR   07:45     ORD   09:15     752  0   CS+  YS+
UA         1151    EWR   10:55     ORD   12:20     738  0   CS+  YS+
UA         1595    EWR   21:59     ORD   23:41     73G  0   YS+
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