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Old Nov 11, 2014, 2:41 am
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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:
http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Websites information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:

http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:
http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:
http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
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3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
Terms of Use:

https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:

https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://en.aegeanair.com
Terms of Use:

https://eservice.evaair.com
Terms of Use:

https://flymas.mobi/itravel/viewBooking.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://fly.rj.com/MyBookings/Home/EN/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://skyvector.com/airport/
Terms of Use:

https://m.aeroflot.ru/b/info/pnr/load
Terms of Use:

https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://mobile1.emirates.com/myb/review.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://myb.s7.ru/getMyBooking.action
Terms of Use:

https://mytripandmore.com/Itinerary.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
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9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
Intellectual property notifications
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D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
E. You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
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Limitations on your use:
You agree that you will not Misuse the Site. "Misuse" includes, but is not limited to, using the Site to do any of the following:
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L. Copy or create derivative works from, display, distribute, license, perform, publish, recreate, reproduce, sell, transfer, or transmit any information, products, services, or software obtained by, from, or through the Site.
M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.

https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
Terms of Use:

https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
Prohibited Activities

You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.

You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

You may not copy, derive, edit, translate, decompile, reverse engineer, modify, use, or reproduce any code or source relating to our sites, including without limitation, any service or product Southwest offers.

You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.

You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.

When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

https://wftc3.e-travel.com
Terms of Use:

https://wtrweb.worldtracer.aero/WorldTracerWeb/pax.do
Terms of Use:

https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/S...MileCalc_en.do
Terms of Use:

https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/ETDisplay.tk
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/getPnr.tk
Terms of Use:

https://www.airberlin.com/en-DE/cockpit
Terms of Use:

https://www.airfrance.fr/cgi-bin/AF/...chPnrAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.alaskaair.com/booking/reservationlookup
Terms of Use:

https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
Terms of Use:

https://www.britishairways.com/trave...g/public/en_gb
Terms of Use:

https://www.checkmytrip.com/CMTSERVLET
Terms of Use:
https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions

3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
Terms of Use:

https://www.finnair.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.flysas.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.lot.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.
https://www.routehappy.com/
Terms of Use:

https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripple.jp
Terms of Use:

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without Uniteds prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without Uniteds prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.

https://www.viewtrip.com/GetItin.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://www.virginamerica.com/book/ow/a1/
Terms of Use:

https://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/g...ndBooking.next
Terms of Use:

https://www.virtuallythere.com/new/reservations.html
Terms of Use:

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/
Terms of Use:

http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi
Terms of Use:

http://www.airframes.org/fleet/
Terms of Use:

http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...oking-now.html
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightradar24.com/
Terms of Use:

http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...ingByFlight.do
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...tusByFlight.do
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightview.com/TravelTool...eryResults.asp
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/viewairport.asp
Terms of Use:

http://www.gcmap.com/airport/
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui
Terms of Use:
http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
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Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
2. Your Conduct

The content on this Site is for your personal use only within the organization or entity to which you are attached as applicable, and it is not intended for commercial exploitation unless expressly agreed in writing by IATA through a duly authorized representative. IATA authorizes you to download or reproduce selected materials at this Site only for your personal, non-commercial use, in the ordinary course of business provided that you retain all copyright and other proprietary notices contained in the original materials on any copies of the materials and that the title or database brand name and IATA name is stated as the source.

You may not otherwise modify, disassemble, create derivative works, distribute, reproduce, publicly display, perform, transmit, re-transmit, sell, rent, sublicense, or otherwise use any materials or content on this Site for commercial or non-commercial exploitation by yourself or the organization or entity to which you are attached or permit third parties to so do. Without limitation, unlimited or wholesale reproduction, copying of the content for commercial or non-commercial purposes and unwarranted modification of data and information within the content is not permitted, and any use of these materials on any other website or networked computer environment for any purpose without IATAs prior written consent is prohibited.
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4. Intellectual Property Rights

...You must not modify, decompile, or reverse engineer any software IATA discloses to you via this Site, and you must not remove, overprint, or deface any notice of copyright, trademark, logo, legend, or other notice of ownership from any originals or copies of software or information from the website. "IATA Trademarks" means all names, marks, brands, URL names or addresses, logos, designs, trade dress and other designations IATA uses in connection with Products or Services. You are not permitted to incorporate any IATA Trademarks into any other trademarks, service marks, company names, Internet addresses, domain names, or any other similar designations. Any unauthorized use of any materials contained on this website may violate copyright laws, trademark laws, the laws of privacy and publicity, and communications regulations and statutes.

http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
Terms of Use:

http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://www.myairlines.ru
Terms of Use:

http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 6:00 pm
  #7546  
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Originally Posted by KVS
The term "KVS Availability Tool" dates back to 2004 (and the beginning of this Thread).

The current name, which has been in use for many years now, is KVS Tool, which better reflects the diversity of the Tool's current functionality, including an unsurpassed Award/Upgrade Availability coverage.
Originally Posted by paulwuk

Interestingly, my version of the tool (downloaded the latest earlier today) seems to say that it is "KVS Availability Tool."

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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 6:11 pm
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So ....

Mr. KVS,

I have been a Diamond member for many years and now find this tool to be completely useless.

I am not going to use the Mobile Companion as it is clunky at best.

I have not seen one post from you offering a gesture and/or solution to your PAYING customers.

It appears this tool is up a creek without a certain implement.

Please advise me if I am wrong.
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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 6:30 pm
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Originally Posted by YXSflyer
Is anyone else getting basically useless fare information? When I search it does show a bunch of fares, but it doesn't show the fare bases. You have to click on one randomly and look up the fare rules, after which it'll display the fare code. In other words, it's impossible to know what kind of fare you're looking at before clicking on it, but in two searches (one Canada - Mexico, one Canada - Germany) all it shows were Y fares anyway.
Yep, it's garbage. At first I thought it was validating (enforcing adv purchase, min/max duration, fare class availability) but I've ruled that out.

Next mole up?

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Corrections:
I messed up assuming rubles but is dinari - fares seem ok.
Does not appear to be validating fares.
As you mention you can send the additional query to get the fare basis. Why this isn't done automatically is interesting, maybe a web browser has limitations?
Appears the routing rules is now not going to KVS but to [redacted], which ironically also isn't working.

Last edited by zozeppelin; Nov 11, 2014 at 7:01 pm Reason: redacted by request of KVS for continued use of his tool
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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 9:35 pm
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No Timetable / only early flights?

Sorry if I'm re-posting an earlier question. When i try to do a simple "Timetable" search, for example SFO-ORD, the KVS Tool only shows me the earlier flights in the day, nothing later. Doesn't matter if I change the "Time" field, I still get only the earlier flights in the day.

There are plenty of flights from San Francisco to Chicago departing after 6-10 AM Pacific. Why are they not showing up?
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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 9:39 pm
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Originally Posted by dshafiee
Mr. KVS,

I have been a Diamond member for many years and now find this tool to be completely useless.

I am not going to use the Mobile Companion as it is clunky at best.

I have not seen one post from you offering a gesture and/or solution to your PAYING customers.

It appears this tool is up a creek without a certain implement.

Please advise me if I am wrong.

I am with you on this. Same feeling.
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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 9:42 pm
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Originally Posted by fuyao

But @KVS, let me be clear, if it is the case (I'm not saying it is) you are creating a product that allows users to break the terms and conditions of web / data / ... providers you MUST inform the users that they are breaking the law by using your tool, otherwise you are breaking the law!
I am very shock on this. I have been paying KVS for the past 3 years not knowingly that I have "crack" something, until he sent me the instruction on how to get GTC account.

I was so shock that I have to "crack" something to gain access for some tools that I have been paying for it.

This is like paying for a software and later on the creator tells me that I need to hack something so I can properly use for it
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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 10:18 pm
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Originally Posted by fuyao
I think we can end the debate
We think so too.

Originally Posted by lingua101
I just renew my Diamond for another year. And there is no warning that I will not get the same services that I have enjoyed for the past 3 years!!!

My requirement is very simple, I just need to check flight availability and timetable. This is the main reason I DO pay for the service.

Now I cannot do this anymore. Well, KVS may argue that I can do it via mobile apps, but this is very hard to read and use.
Originally Posted by dshafiee
I am not going to use the Mobile Companion as it is clunky at best.
Could you please clarify what exactly do you mean by "hard to read and use" / "clunky"?

Originally Posted by zozeppelin
fares seem ok.
Indeed.

Originally Posted by zozeppelin
Does not appear to be validating fares.
Which Rule(s) do you believe are not being validated?

Originally Posted by zozeppelin
which ironically also isn't working.
All Fare & Routing Rules options continue to function normally.

Originally Posted by YXSflyer
When I search it does show a bunch of fares, but it doesn't show the fare bases. You have to click on one randomly and look up the fare rules, after which it'll display the fare code. In other words, it's impossible to know what kind of fare you're looking at before clicking on it, but in two searches (one Canada - Mexico, one Canada - Germany) all it shows were Y fares anyway.
The [Fares/GOL] Engine (which is currently in Beta) lists the ~40 lowest published Fares for the requested route (and carrier, if specified).

To retrieve the Fare Basis Code for a Fare you need to double-click the desired Fare Item(s).

Originally Posted by qmacker
Sorry if I'm re-posting an earlier question. When i try to do a simple "Timetable" search, for example SFO-ORD, the KVS Tool only shows me the earlier flights in the day, nothing later. Doesn't matter if I change the "Time" field, I still get only the earlier flights in the day.
It is a known issue with the [Timetable] Engine, which we are currently looking into.

In the meantime, please specify carrier preference(s) to narrow the results.

Originally Posted by kanada99
I am Diamond however availibility i am una to search....
Please contact us via http://Contact.KVSTool.com/

Last edited by Prospero; Nov 6, 2014 at 1:12 am Reason: combine consecutive posts into one
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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 10:56 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS
Indeed.


Which Rule(s) do you believe are not being validated?


All Fare & Routing Rules options continue to function normally.
Fare Method: Not working for domestic fares. It also is not finding the lowest available fare.

Routing Rules: "The system was unable to locate a matching fare" for every fare I would describe as not working.

Validated as in ensuring departure date fits within effective window, duration is longer than minimum stay require yet shorter than maximum, and that the fare class of the fare basis is available on the given day and today's date would meet advance purchase requirements. Doing that is actually undesirable as it filters results.
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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 11:56 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS
The term "KVS Availability Tool" dates back to 2004 (and the beginning of this Thread).

The current name, which has been in use for many years now, is KVS Tool, which better reflects the diversity of the Tool's current functionality, including an unsurpassed Award/Upgrade Availability coverage.
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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 2:08 am
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Can anyone tell me the current loads on DL123 in Nov, 10 2014?

If this is not the right place to ask, please move my question to the right place. I know there is a specific thread for these requests on LH but I could not find one for DL.

Thanks!
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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 5:44 am
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Originally Posted by mmff
Can anyone tell me the current loads on DL123 in Nov, 10 2014?

If this is not the right place to ask, please move my question to the right place. I know there is a specific thread for these requests on LH but I could not find one for DL.
It is currently J1 C1 D1 I0 Z0 Y9 B9 M9 S9 H9 Q9 K9 L9 U9 T9 X9 V9 E9
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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 6:29 am
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Originally Posted by KVS
It is currently J1 C1 D1 I0 Z0 Y9 B9 M9 S9 H9 Q9 K9 L9 U9 T9 X9 V9 E9
Which version of KVS allows you to get that information?
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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 6:44 am
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Originally Posted by fuyao
I think we can end the debate whether its legitimite or not how KVS gets the data
Originally Posted by KVS
We think so too.
Yes. Let's draw a line under that one.

The "KVS Availability Tool" only works properly on a sporadic basis, and only to the extent that KVS can find new ways* for it to steal data.

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* Ways to steal data are also known as "Engines" and "Methods", with upper case initials because this helps the "Tool" sound important.

Last edited by IMH; Nov 6, 2014 at 9:52 am Reason: to shrink footnote
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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 6:49 am
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Originally Posted by paulwuk
Which version of KVS allows you to get that information?
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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 7:09 am
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Originally Posted by KVS
[*]The purpose of this thread is serve as a place where the Tool users can post questions about the Tool's functionality, issues, suggestions, etc.
Suggestion
As the KVS Availability Tool purports to be a "Specialized Web Browser application", can the URL/domain used for each type of search be clearly shown before users are required to click 'Go' rather than an obfuscated/truncated code such as 'Availability/FS'?

That way users know the website(s) they will access and have a chance to confirm (if they wish) that they are meeting any 'User Agreement' or T&C's of that website.

Alternatively, a popup of the terms of the website(s) they are accessing through their 'Specialized Web Browser application'. Just as you request users to "Please review the terms of the KVS Tool User Agreement that you have accepted when installing the KVS Tool."
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