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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
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http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
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http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Website’s information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24’s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
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http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
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http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
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http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways’ prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
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http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
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3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
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https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
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https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

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https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
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9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
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https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
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https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
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https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
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https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
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https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:

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http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
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You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz® web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

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You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions

3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
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https://www.finnair.com
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https://www.flysas.com
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https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
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https://www.lot.com
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https://www.lufthansa.com
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http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.

https://www.routehappy.com/
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https://www.swiss.com
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https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
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https://www.tripple.jp
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https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:

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https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without United’s prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without United’s prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.

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http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
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Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
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http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
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http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
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http://www.myairlines.ru
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http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
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http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
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http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
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http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
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http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
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Jul 2, 2014 | 9:35 pm

#6871

KVS

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Join Date: Jan 2004

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Posts: 12,952

Quote:

Originally Posted by epigram

18 Oct GOT-SIN H class

Could you please also clarify what Availability are you seeing via the KVS Tool and what Availability did the airline advise when you called?

Jul 3, 2014 | 12:46 am

#6872

epigram

Join Date: May 2001

Posts: 855

Kvs tool 0
Airline said I could book the 3 seats I needed

Jul 3, 2014 | 2:54 am

#6873

morrenojavis19

Join Date: Apr 2014

Posts: 1

KVS Staff seats availability

I am wonderinf if its possible to see the staff listed for a particular flight using the KVS seat availability tool.

Thank You.

Jul 3, 2014 | 11:03 am

#6874

KVS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by epigram

18 Oct GOT-SIN H class

Quote:

Originally Posted by epigram

Airline said I could book the 3 seats I needed

Looks like a Segment Marriage or a POS issue:
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Factors

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.9/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]

Code:

GOT  Gothenburg Metro / Landvetter SE = GOT GSE [ESGG]
IST  Istanbul Metro / Ataturk TR = IST SAW [LTBA]
SAT  18 Oct 2014

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  --------------------------------------------------------------
TK         1798    GOT   12:20     IST   16:40     739      C9 D9 K9 J9 I9 R9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 S9 E9 Q9 T9 L1 V0 P0 W0 X2 N0 G0
SK/TK      3415    GOT   12:20     IST   16:40     739      C9 J9 Y9 E9 M9 H9 Q9 W9 U9 K4 L4 T4
TK         1800    GOT   17:45     IST   22:05     738      C6 D5 K5 J4 I3 R2 Y9 B9 M9 H9 S9 E9 Q9 T9 L9 V9 P9 W9 X9 N9 G0

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.9/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]

Code:

IST  Istanbul Metro / Ataturk TR = IST SAW [LTBA]
SIN  Singapore Changi SG [WSSS]
SAT  18 Oct 2014

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  --------------------------------------------------------------
TK         66      IST   00:40     SIN   16:25     330      C9 D0 K0 J0 I0 R0 Y9 B9 M9 H9 S0 E0 Q0 T0 L0 V0 P0 W0 X4 N0 G0
SQ/TK      6266    IST   00:40     SIN   16:25     330      Z0 C0 J0 D0 Y4 B4 E4 M4 H4 W4 Q0 N0 V0 T0
SQ         391     IST   13:30     SIN   05:00 +1  772      Z9 C8 J0 D0 U0 S9 Y9 B9 E0 M0 H0 W0 Q0 N0 V0 T0 G0 L0 K0
TK/SQ      7900    IST   13:30     SIN   05:00 +1  772      C4 D4 K4 J4 Y0 B0 M0 H0 S0 E0 Q0 T0 L0 V0 P0 W0

Jul 3, 2014 | 3:19 pm

#6875

kaaa

Join Date: Dec 2009

Posts: 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

you can still access Pricing, Fare Rules & Routing Rules for SU Fares by manually entering the Fare Basis Code.

Hi, how to do that? I don't see any input field named 'Fare Basis Code'.

Jul 3, 2014 | 10:01 pm

#6876

KVS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kaaa

Hi, how to do that? I don't see any input field named 'Fare Basis Code'.

Welcome to [posting on] FT!

Please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#RTW

Jul 4, 2014 | 6:10 am

#6877

epigram

Join Date: May 2001

Posts: 855

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

Looks like a Segment Marriage or a POS issue:

Thanks for the explanation. Wish the airlines didn't do this. Makes the hunt so much more difficult.

update: seems like ITA or a travel agent is able to see the availability as well. 3 of us are booked in D. managed to switch 2 of us to K. last passenger left in D. obsessively checked KVS but both D and K zeroed out. only C available. run a saved search on ITA and it priced it in K class. KVS still said zero. called travel agent (airline closed on weekend) and agent managed to snare K.

Last edited by epigram; Jul 5, 2014 at 3:51 am Reason: more info

Jul 5, 2014 | 7:04 pm

#6878

ThatAdamGuy

Join Date: Jun 2005

Location: Mountain View, CA (near SJC and SFO)

Programs: Hilton Gold, Marriott Gold, IHG Platinum, and no status whatsoever on the airlines (!)

Posts: 481

Hmm, I'm seeing (or rather, er, not seeing) a lot of missing results for a Star Alliance KIX-LAX search.

Specifically, UA's site shows C availability for Asiana and Eva. But KVS isn't showing any matched availability (just cases in which one segment on NH or UA shows C available, the matching segment does not)

This is for the following search:
- Awards/StarAlliance
- KIX-LAX
- 1 Apr 2015
- Airlines: *A all
- POS: JP-ANA-STD
- 2 seats
- No filter

What am I doin' wrong here?

Thanks!

Edited to add:
Hmm, I tried Awards/AC-StarAlliance for Apr 2, and -- while I now see NH & OZ -- BR (Eva Air) is still missing, despite showing saver-seats available via united.com. :\
And... hmm... maybe BR stands for "Broken." BR doesn't show up under Timetable for KIX-LAX either unless I search for it specifically vs. All Airlines. Strange!

Last edited by ThatAdamGuy; Jul 5, 2014 at 7:35 pm

Jul 5, 2014 | 9:07 pm

#6879

KVS

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Posts: 12,952

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatAdamGuy

This is not the most logical routing, so you need to search Segment-By-Segment or specify a desired connecting point using the [Via] option:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.9/Diamond - Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]

Code:

KIX  Osaka Kansai Intl JP [RJBB]
TPE  Taipei Metro / Taiwan Taoyuan Intl TW = TPE TSA [RCTP]
LAX  Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX]
WED  01 Apr 2015 | 2 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
BR         131     KIX   13:10     TPE   15:05     332  0   FS/  CS+  YS-
 -> BR     12      TPE   18:40     LAX   15:20     77W  0   FS/  CS-  YS+
BR         131     KIX   13:10     TPE   15:05     332  0   FS/  CS+  YS-
 -> BR     2       TPE   19:20     LAX   16:10     77W  0   FS/  CS+  YS-
BR         129     KIX   18:35     TPE   20:30     321  0   FS/  CS+  YS-
 -> BR     16      TPE   23:55     LAX   20:45     77W  0   FS/  CS+  YS+

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.9/Diamond - Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]

Code:

KIX  Osaka Kansai Intl JP [RJBB]
TPE  Taipei Metro / Taiwan Taoyuan Intl TW = TPE TSA [RCTP]
LAX  Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX]
THU  02 Apr 2015 | 2 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
BR         131     KIX   13:10     TPE   15:05     332  0   FS/  CS+  YS-
 -> BR     12      TPE   18:40     LAX   15:20     77W  0   FS/  CS+  YS+
BR         131     KIX   13:10     TPE   15:05     332  0   FS/  CS+  YS-
 -> BR     2       TPE   19:20     LAX   16:10     77W  0   FS/  CS+  YS+
BR         129     KIX   18:35     TPE   20:30     321  0   FS/  CS+  YS-
 -> BR     16      TPE   23:55     LAX   20:45     77W  0   FS/  CS+  YS+

Jul 6, 2014 | 12:59 am

#6880

ThatAdamGuy

Join Date: Jun 2005

Location: Mountain View, CA (near SJC and SFO)

Programs: Hilton Gold, Marriott Gold, IHG Platinum, and no status whatsoever on the airlines (!)

Posts: 481

Ah, okay, interesting. It shows up as an option in united.com, so I didn't think it was too crazy. Appreciate the quick and helpful info!

Jul 6, 2014 | 8:19 am

#6881

FlyerGoldII

Join Date: Sep 2000

Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

Programs: Aeroplan SE AND 1MM, HHonors Gold, Marriott Bonvoy Platinum , L'Accor Platinum

Posts: 9,782

Any thoughts of offering lifelong membership?

Jul 7, 2014 | 6:45 am

#6882

hokiebearflyer

Join Date: Jul 2014

Posts: 3

KVS Tool and fare purchase

I signed up for the KVS Availability Tool a couple of days ago and have been able to use it to identify some good fares. However, my version of KVS does not appear to have the functionality to actually purchase/book a particular fare of interest, or direct one to where that fare can be purchased (I am not interested in an award ticket at this time). Am I missing something? Is the KVS Availability Tool simply for information only?

Jul 7, 2014 | 7:24 am

#6883

sfolawyer

Join Date: Apr 2001

Location: San Francisco, CA

Programs: UA Gold 1MM, Marriott Platinum

Posts: 555

Quote:

Originally Posted by hokiebearflyer

Is the KVS Availability Tool simply for information only?

Right. You have to book through another source.

Jul 7, 2014 | 8:00 am

#6884

hokiebearflyer

Join Date: Jul 2014

Posts: 3

Quote:

Originally Posted by sfolawyer

Right. You have to book through another source.

Thanks, sfolawyer. For an award ticket, that is easy; simply call the airline and guide the agent with information from KVS. If the goal is to purchase a ticket however, KVS gives info on best fares etc., which is great, but how to then purchase those fares? The airline's ticketing agent won't be able to see/find those fares. Do we have to, on our own, start visiting one travel website (Expedia, Orbitz...) after another, to try and find where KVS got that fare? Since KVS is getting that particular fare from somewhere, it seems reasonable that KVS would direct the user to where that particular fare is being extracted, no?

Jul 7, 2014 | 8:26 am

#6885

st1575

Join Date: Jan 2013

Location: NYC

Posts: 558

Quote:

Originally Posted by hokiebearflyer

Do we have to, on our own, start visiting one travel website (Expedia, Orbitz...) after another, to try and find where KVS got that fare? Since KVS is getting that particular fare from somewhere, it seems reasonable that KVS would direct the user to where that particular fare is being extracted, no?

KVS obscures the source of its fare information but offers a "Find Flights Using This Fare [ITA]" option if you double/right-click the fare you like. This will direct you to ITA's Matrix site, where you can hopefully find some flights you like with the fare in question. Then take that info and put it into your favorite booking/search engine to find and purchase the flights online.