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ulzimates Apr 18, 2013 12:20 pm

Date Out-Of-Range
 
I noticed that when using the Awards/JL-OneWorld search for CX on flights +3 days away, the query fails. Tried using the different Return date function (+0...+4) and that doesn't work either. Is this search broken on flights that are a few days away?

KVS Apr 18, 2013 12:40 pm


Originally Posted by ulzimates (Post 20613474)
I noticed that when using the Awards/JL-OneWorld search for CX on flights +3 days away, the query fails. Tried using the different Return date function (+0...+4) and that doesn't work either. Is this search broken on flights that are a few days away?

The [Awards/JL-OneWorld] Engine range is 4-330 Days:
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Method_Axess_Awards_JLOneWorld

Please use [Awards/OneWorld], [Awards/BA-OneWorld] or [Awards/CX] for dates outside of that range.

Pinni Apr 19, 2013 1:48 pm

I am trying to book an R/T ZRH - NRT using the JL fare QLCSSW3 with a transfer in CDG. This fare must include travel between Europe and Japan on the JL flights 5053/5054/5055/5056 which are JL codeshare flights CDG-NRT operated by AF. Travel inside Europe (ZRH-CDG) must be on AF or LX according to the fare rules.

Using the Availability/FS method I've found some dates for which the Q booking class is available for the JL codeshare flights CDG-NRT. Because I am *A Gold for the leg ZRH-CDG I would like to book an LX flight and avoid AF flights. This works perfect on the way from ZRH to CDG but for some reason I can't book the LX flight 645 on the way back. I can only select the AF flight 1414 which departures 40 minutes prior to the LX flight I want to book or the LX flights which departure from CDG on the next morning.

I tried different booking sites (ebookers, opodo) and get the same results. They just do not show me the LX flight 645 on that particular day, not even at a higher price. However if I search for the same connection on the next day I can select this flight.

The KVS tool does not show anything special about this flight.

[KVS Availability Tool 7.1.9/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]
Code:

CDG  Paris Charles De Gaulle FR [LFPG]
ZRH  Zurich CH [LSZH]
MON  16 Sep 2013

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------
LX        647    CDG  07:05    ZRH  08:20    320      J8 C8 D7 Z6 P2 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W0 S0 T9 E0 L0 K0
LX        633    CDG  09:50    ZRH  11:10    320      J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S0 T9 E9 L0 K0
LX        635    CDG  11:00    ZRH  12:15    320      J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S0 T9 E9 L9 K9
LX/##      639    CDG  14:55    ZRH  16:10    AR1      J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S0 T9 E9 L0 K0
LX        657    CDG  18:45    ZRH  19:55    320      J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S0 T9 E9 L0 K0
LX        645    CDG  20:45    ZRH  21:55    319      J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S0 T9 E9 L0 K0

If I select the LX flight 645 on the next day (17 Sep 2013) I see that the booking class of this flight must be T (at least this is what Opodo shows). This booking class is also available on 16 Sep 2013, there is absolutely nothing special about this flight accoring to the KVS tool.

Any idea why I can't book this flight on that particular date?

KVS Apr 19, 2013 3:32 pm


Originally Posted by Pinni (Post 20619553)
Any idea why I can't book this flight on that particular date?

Have you tried calling JL to book?

Pinni Apr 19, 2013 4:07 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 20620069)
Have you tried calling JL to book?

No, haven't tried yet. I am actually more interested in understanding the math behind it (that's why I bought the KVS tool diamond level :) ).

I could understand if the LX 645 flight would not be bookable with this JL tarif on any day because of some fare rules restrictions or minimum connection times. I could also understand if this flight would not be bookable because the booking class is not available on that day for that flight. But I absolutely do not understand why I cannot book that flight on that particular day whereas it works perfect on the next day with exactly the same connections! :confused:

KVS Apr 20, 2013 10:05 am


Originally Posted by Pinni (Post 20620191)
But I absolutely do not understand why I cannot book that flight on that particular day

There is no indication that you cannot book those flights, only that you were unable to do so via a few "booking sites" that you have tried.

pineapplejet Apr 22, 2013 10:41 am

Using KVS to locate American Airlines "C" fare bucket
 
I recently made the switch from Expertflyer to KVS with BA being the only reason. However, I still fly on AA quite often and I have eVIPs to use.

I poked around the interface, found it generally user friendly, but I can't seem to locate C inventory. I have no problem finding milesAAver seats (U Inventory). Although I found it true 90% of the time that when U exists, C exits, I still would like to know if there's a way I can locate C.

FlyMeToTheLooneyBin Apr 22, 2013 10:44 am


Originally Posted by pineapplejet (Post 20633087)
I recently made the switch from Expertflyer to KVS with BA being the only reason. However, I still fly on AA quite often and I have eVIPs to use.

I poked around the interface, found it generally user friendly, but I can't seem to locate C inventory. I have no problem finding milesAAver seats (U Inventory). Although I found it true 90% of the time that when U exists, C exits, I still would like to know if there's a way I can locate C.

If you go under Awards and Upgrades, you can select C. If you don't see any, perhaps there is no C inventory available at the moment? I believer that if ExpertFlyer searches and doesn't find any for a range, it stops searching.

AAExPlat Apr 22, 2013 10:52 am


Originally Posted by pineapplejet (Post 20633087)
I recently made the switch from Expertflyer to KVS with BA being the only reason. However, I still fly on AA quite often and I have eVIPs to use.

I poked around the interface, found it generally user friendly, but I can't seem to locate C inventory. I have no problem finding milesAAver seats (U Inventory). Although I found it true 90% of the time that when U exists, C exits, I still would like to know if there's a way I can locate C.

I don't know that C inventory is showing on KVS...

JDiver Apr 22, 2013 11:10 am

This is a Travel Tools Forum question and will be moved to the proper forum, and thread eventually.

JDiver
senior moderator

KVS Apr 22, 2013 11:20 am


Originally Posted by pineapplejet (Post 20633087)
I recently made the switch from Expertflyer to KVS with BA being the only reason.

Welcome to the KVS Tool!


Originally Posted by pineapplejet (Post 20633087)
I poked around the interface, found it generally user friendly, but I can't seem to locate C inventory. I have no problem finding milesAAver seats (U Inventory). Although I found it true 90% of the time that when U exists, C exits, I still would like to know if there's a way I can locate C.

For a list of supported AA Booking Classes, please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AA

Unfortunately, AA C Class is not currently one of them.

pineapplejet Apr 22, 2013 2:16 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 20633317)
Welcome to the KVS Tool!



For a list of supported AA Booking Classes, please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AA

Unfortunately, AA C Class is not currently one of them.

Yes I see that A can be searched, which is the upgrade inventory for 1st. Can I assume C is somewhere in the pipeline?

ExpertFlyer Voice Apr 22, 2013 2:23 pm


Originally Posted by pineapplejet (Post 20633087)
I still would like to know if there's a way I can locate C.

AA C Upgrade inventory is an exclusive feature of ExpertFlyer as it requires direct GDS access. It cannot be screen scraped from any website as it is only available to authorized partners of AA.

BA/AA Award inventory is publicly available via AA.com and BA.com as well as other services such as AwardNexus.com which offers a free version for FT members.

KVS Apr 22, 2013 2:40 pm


Originally Posted by pineapplejet (Post 20634344)
Yes I see that A can be searched, which is the upgrade inventory for 1st. Can I assume C is somewhere in the pipeline?

We would most certainly add this functionality to the KVS Tool, if and when AA makes its C Upgrade Availability accessible.

In the meantime, we hope that you will enjoy the most extensive Award & Upgrade Availability coverage that the KVS Tool provides.

belfordrocks Apr 22, 2013 10:23 pm

Any way to search Eva Air award space?


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