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Old Nov 11, 2014, 2:41 am
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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:
http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Websites information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:

http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:
http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:
http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
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3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
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https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:

https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://en.aegeanair.com
Terms of Use:

https://eservice.evaair.com
Terms of Use:

https://flymas.mobi/itravel/viewBooking.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://fly.rj.com/MyBookings/Home/EN/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://skyvector.com/airport/
Terms of Use:

https://m.aeroflot.ru/b/info/pnr/load
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https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://mobile1.emirates.com/myb/review.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://myb.s7.ru/getMyBooking.action
Terms of Use:

https://mytripandmore.com/Itinerary.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
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9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
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https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
Intellectual property notifications
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D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
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https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
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https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
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You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.

You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

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You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.

When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

https://wftc3.e-travel.com
Terms of Use:

https://wtrweb.worldtracer.aero/WorldTracerWeb/pax.do
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https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/S...MileCalc_en.do
Terms of Use:

https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/ETDisplay.tk
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/getPnr.tk
Terms of Use:

https://www.airberlin.com/en-DE/cockpit
Terms of Use:

https://www.airfrance.fr/cgi-bin/AF/...chPnrAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.alaskaair.com/booking/reservationlookup
Terms of Use:

https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
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https://www.britishairways.com/trave...g/public/en_gb
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https://www.checkmytrip.com/CMTSERVLET
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https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
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https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
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https://www.finnair.com
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https://www.flysas.com
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https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.lot.com
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https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

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...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.
https://www.routehappy.com/
Terms of Use:

https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripple.jp
Terms of Use:

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:
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https://www.viewtrip.com/GetItin.aspx
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https://www.virginamerica.com/book/ow/a1/
Terms of Use:

https://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/g...ndBooking.next
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https://www.virtuallythere.com/new/reservations.html
Terms of Use:

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/
Terms of Use:

http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi
Terms of Use:

http://www.airframes.org/fleet/
Terms of Use:

http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...oking-now.html
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightradar24.com/
Terms of Use:

http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...ingByFlight.do
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...tusByFlight.do
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightview.com/TravelTool...eryResults.asp
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/viewairport.asp
Terms of Use:

http://www.gcmap.com/airport/
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui
Terms of Use:
http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
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Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
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http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
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http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
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http://www.myairlines.ru
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http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
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http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
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Old Jun 1, 2012 | 5:40 pm
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KVS Tool shows availability but none exists
KVS Tool (latest version as of 6/1/12) Diamond:

Doing a search via Awards/AC-StarAlliance since I'm on a Mac, and the ANA method doesn't work. I'm using UA MP.

I search for 05SEP12, BIO-LAX (BIO-LIS-MIA-IAD-LAX is what I came up with that has availability (CS+).

I did the legs one by one:
BIO Bilbao ES [LEBB]
LIS Lisbon Portela-Lisboa PT [LPPT]
WED 05 Sep 2012 | 2 Seats

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
TP/NI 1065 BIO 06:45 LIS 07:25 ER4 0 CS+ YS+

LIS Lisbon Portela-Lisboa PT [LPPT]
MIA Miami Intl FL US [KMIA]
WED 05 Sep 2012 | 2 Seats

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
TP 113 LIS 10:00 MIA 14:15 332 0 CS+ YS+

MIA Miami Intl FL US [KMIA]
LAX Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX]
WED 05 Sep 2012 | 2 Seats

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
UA 599 MIA 14:55 IAH 16:37 752 0 CS+ YS+
-> UA 1166 IAH 20:50 LAX 22:24 753 0 CS+ YS+

Sweet. 2 seats in C for me and the Mrs, and 2 seats in Economy for my kids. But, United shows no availability when I call up--none at all BIO-LIS, none at all LIS-MIA, YS only from MIA-IAH and CS and YS from IAH-LAX.

First I think. Damn, someone got them while I was waiting but I've called back several times over the last 48 hours and they continue to show on KVS but no dice with UA.

Second, I RTFM at KVS and read the two posts about StartNet blocking. So then I go use the ANA tool for the TATL LIS-MIA on 05SEP12 and it shows not availalble. But KVS does. So I'm confused obviously. Is this a bug? I'm going to do the search via AirCanada's website right now to see if it comes from them, but I'm a little concerned that ANA shows no inventory and KVS tool does. That seems to rule out the UA StarNet blocking, correct?

KVS, help...
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Originally Posted by mdesario
WED 05 Sep 2012 | 2 Seats

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
TP/NI 1065 BIO 06:45 LIS 07:25 ER4 0 CS+ YS+

WED 05 Sep 2012 | 2 Seats

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
TP 113 LIS 10:00 MIA 14:15 332 0 CS+ YS+
For the 1st flight, it is an [Awards/AC-StarAlliance] Engine issue -- there is actually no Award Availability on that flight.

For the 2nd flight, it's a combination of the above, plus a segment marriage logic issue:
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Factors

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.2/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]
Code:
BIO  Bilbao ES [LEBB]
LIS  Lisbon Portela-Lisboa PT [LPPT]
MIA  Miami Intl FL US [KMIA]
WED  05 Sep 2012 | 2 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
TP         1065    BIO   06:45     LIS   07:25     ER4  0   FS/  CS-  YS-
 -> TP     113     LIS   10:00     MIA   14:15     332  0   FS/  CS+  YS+
[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.2/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]
Code:
LIS  Lisbon Portela-Lisboa PT [LPPT]
MIA  Miami Intl FL US [KMIA]
WED  05 Sep 2012 | 2 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
TP         113     LIS   10:00     MIA   14:15     332  0   FS/  CS-  YS-
Originally Posted by mdesario
WED 05 Sep 2012 | 2 Seats

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
UA 599 MIA 14:55 IAH 16:37 752 0 CS+ YS+
-> UA 1166 IAH 20:50 LAX 22:24 753 0 CS+ YS+

Sweet. 2 seats in C for me and the Mrs, and 2 seats in Economy for my kids. But, United shows no availability when I call up--none at all BIO-LIS, none at all LIS-MIA, YS only from MIA-IAH and CS and YS from IAH-LAX.
These flights are actually available in both Y & C:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.2/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]
Code:
MIA  Miami Intl FL US [KMIA]
IAH  Houston George Bush Intercnt'l TX US [KIAH]
LAX  Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX]
WED  05 Sep 2012 | 2 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
UA         599     MIA   14:55     HOU   16:37     752  0   FS/  CS-  YS+
 -> UA     1657    HOU   17:30     LAX   19:10     739  0   FS/  CS-  YS+
UA         599     MIA   14:55     HOU   16:37     752  0   FS/  CS-  YS+
 -> UA     1547    HOU   18:28     LAX   20:08     738  0   FS/  CS-  YS+
UA         599     MIA   14:55     HOU   16:37     752  0   FS/  CS+  YS+
 -> UA     1166    HOU   20:50     LAX   22:24     753  0   FS/  CS+  YS+
UA         883     MIA   17:20     HOU   19:04     320  0   FS/  CS-  YS+
 -> UA     1166    HOU   20:50     LAX   22:24     753  0   FS/  CS-  YS+
[KVS Availability Tool 7.0.2/Diamond - ITA: Awards-Upgrades/UA]
Code:
MIA  Miami Intl FL US [KMIA]
LAX  Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX]
WED  05 Sep 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ---------------------------------------------------
UA         599     MIA   14:55     IAH   16:37     752      I3 X9 ZN9 HN9 IN3 XN9 JN9 YN9 R6 RN6 PN9
 -> UA     1166    IAH   20:50     LAX   22:24     753      I4 X9 ZN9 HN9 IN4 XN9 JN9 YN9 R6 RN6 PN9
UA         829     MIA   09:58     DEN   17:42     752      I0 X8 ZN9 HN9 IN0 XN9 JN9 YN9 R0 RN0 PN9
 -> UA     765     DEN   19:02     LAX   20:28     763      I0 X8 ZN9 HN9 IN0 XN9 JN9 YN9 R0 RN0 PN9
UA         1609    MIA   13:01     EWR   16:00     738      I0 X9 ZN9 HN9 IN0 XN9 JN9 YN9 R0 RN0 PN9
 -> UA     109     EWR   16:59     LAX   20:00     738      I0 X0 ZN9 HN9 IN0 XN0 JN9 YN9 R0 RN0 PN9
UA/YV      3755    MIA   08:55     IAD   11:21     CR7      I0 X0 ZN1 HN9 IN0 XN3 JN6 YN9 R0 RN0 PN5
 -> UA     382     IAD   12:33     LAX   15:00     320      I0 X0 ZN1 HN9 IN0 XN3 JN6 YN9 R0 RN0 PN5
UA/YV      3789    MIA   11:40     IAD   14:08     CR7      I0 X0 ZN1 HN9 IN0 XN0 JN2 YN9 R0 RN0 PN2
 -> UA     1050    IAD   15:30     LAX   18:02     738      I0 X0 ZN1 HN9 IN0 XN0 JN2 YN9 R0 RN0 PN2
UA/YV      3789    MIA   11:40     IAD   14:08     CR7      I0 X0 ZN1 HN9 IN0 XN0 JN2 YN9 R0 RN0 PN2
 -> UA     1118    IAD   16:44     LAX   19:13     752      I0 X0 ZN1 HN9 IN0 XN0 JN2 YN9 R0 RN0 PN2
UA/YV      3789    MIA   11:40     IAD   14:08     CR7      I0 X0 ZN1 HN9 IN0 XN0 JN2 YN9 R0 RN0 PN2
 -> UA     342     IAD   17:32     LAX   19:48     772      O0 I0 X0 FN8 ZN1 HN9 ON0 IN0 XN0 JN2 YN9 R0 RN0 PN2
UA         599     MIA   14:55     IAH   16:37     752      I0 X9 ZN7 HN9 IN0 XN9 JN9 YN9 R0 RN0 PN9
 -> UA     1657    IAH   17:30     LAX   19:10     739      I0 X9 ZN7 HN9 IN0 XN9 JN9 YN9 R0 RN0 PN9
UA         599     MIA   14:55     IAH   16:37     752      I0 X9 ZN7 HN9 IN0 XN9 JN9 YN9 R0 RN0 PN9
 -> UA     1547    IAH   18:28     LAX   20:08     738      I0 X9 ZN7 HN9 IN0 XN9 JN9 YN9 R0 RN0 PN9
UA         599     MIA   14:55     IAH   16:37     752      I0 X9 ZN9 HN9 IN0 XN9 JN9 YN9 R0 RN0 PN9
 -> UA     1003    IAH   19:22     LAX   20:56     753      I0 X9 ZN9 HN9 IN0 XN9 JN9 YN9 R0 RN0 PN9
UA         883     MIA   17:20     IAH   19:04     320      I0 X9 ZN6 HN9 IN0 XN9 JN9 YN9 R0 RN0 PN9
 -> UA     1166    IAH   20:50     LAX   22:24     753      I0 X9 ZN6 HN9 IN0 XN9 JN9 YN9 R0 RN0 PN9
UA/S5      3442    MIA   08:31     ORD   10:47     E70      I0 X9 ZN5 HN9 IN0 XN9 JN6 YN9 R0 RN0 PN5
 -> UA     1004    ORD   12:04     LAX   14:21     739      I0 X9 ZN5 HN9 IN0 XN9 JN6 YN9 R0 RN0 PN5
UA/S5      3442    MIA   08:31     ORD   10:47     E70      I0 X9 ZN5 HN9 IN0 XN9 JN6 YN9 R0 RN0 PN5
 -> UA     1294    ORD   13:10     LAX   15:28     753      I0 X9 ZN5 HN9 IN0 XN9 JN6 YN9 R0 RN0 PN5
UA/S5      3442    MIA   08:31     ORD   10:47     E70      I0 X9 ZN5 HN9 IN0 XN9 JN6 YN9 R0 RN0 PN5
 -> UA     615     ORD   14:16     LAX   16:36     320      I0 X9 ZN5 HN9 IN0 XN9 JN6 YN9 R0 RN0 PN5
UA         1057    MIA   07:21     SFO   14:05     738      I0 X0 ZN0 HN9 IN0 XN0 JN9 YN9 R0 RN0 PN5
 -> UA     1038    SFO   14:59     LAX   16:40     738      I0 X0 ZN0 HN9 IN0 XN0 JN9 YN9 R0 RN0 PN5
UA         1057    MIA   07:21     SFO   14:05     738      I0 X0 ZN0 HN9 IN0 XN0 JN8 YN9 R0 RN0 PN5
 -> UA     366     SFO   16:17     LAX   17:46     319      I0 X0 ZN0 HN9 IN0 XN0 JN8 YN9 R0 RN0 PN5
UA         599     MIA   14:55     SFO   19:58     752      I0 X6 ZN5 HN9 IN0 XN9 JN9 YN9 R0 RN0 PN6
 -> UA     1280    SFO   22:26     LAX   23:55     73G      I0 X6 ZN5 HN9 IN0 XN9 JN9 YN9 R0 RN0 PN6
UA/YV      3755    MIA   08:55     IAD   11:21     CR7      I0 X0 ZN3 HN9 IN0 XN3 JN6 YN9 R0 RN0 PN5
 -> UA     335     IAD   12:20     DEN   14:03     752      I0 X0 ZN3 HN9 IN0 XN3 JN6 YN9 R0 RN0 PN5
 -> UA     731     DEN   15:53     LAX   17:14     752      I0 X0 ZN3 HN9 IN0 XN3 JN6 YN9 R0 RN0 PN5
UA/YV      3789    MIA   11:40     IAD   14:08     CR7      I0 X0 ZN1 HN9 IN0 XN0 JN2 YN9 R0 RN0 PN2
 -> UA     1564    IAD   15:56     DEN   17:56     739      I0 X0 ZN1 HN9 IN0 XN0 JN2 YN9 R0 RN0 PN2
 -> UA     765     DEN   19:02     LAX   20:28     763      I0 X0 ZN1 HN9 IN0 XN0 JN2 YN9 R0 RN0 PN2
UA         599     MIA   14:55     IAH   16:37     752      I1 X9 ZN9 HN9 IN1 XN9 JN9 YN9 R4 RN4 PN9
 -> UA     1707    IAH   17:53     PHX   18:46     738      I1 X9 ZN9 HN9 IN1 XN9 JN9 YN9 R4 RN4 PN9
 -> UA/US  2826    PHX   20:15     LAX   21:45     321
UA         599     MIA   14:55     IAH   16:37     752      I3 X9 ZN9 HN9 IN3 XN9 JN9 YN9 R6 RN6 PN9
 -> UA     783     IAH   17:44     SAN   19:04     752      I3 X9 ZN9 HN9 IN3 XN9 JN9 YN9 R6 RN6 PN9
 -> UA/OO  5648    SAN   20:02     LAX   20:49     EM2      X0 HN9 XN1 YN9
UA         599     MIA   14:55     IAH   16:37     752      I3 X0 ZN9 HN9 IN3 XN0 JN9 YN9 R6 RN6 PN9
 -> UA/XE  4237    IAH   17:48     SAT   18:56     EM4      X0 HN9 XN0 YN9
 -> UA/OO  6344    SAT   19:42     LAX   20:53     CR7      I0 X9 ZN3 HN9 IN0 XN9 JN6 YN9 R1 RN1 PN6
UA         599     MIA   14:55     IAH   16:37     752      I0 X6 ZN5 HN9 IN0 XN9 JN9 YN9 R0 RN0 PN6
 -> UA     667     IAH   19:16     SFO   21:26     752      I0 X6 ZN5 HN9 IN0 XN9 JN9 YN9 R0 RN0 PN6
 -> UA     1280    SFO   22:26     LAX   23:55     73G      I0 X6 ZN5 HN9 IN0 XN9 JN9 YN9 R0 RN0 PN6
UA/S5      3442    MIA   08:31     ORD   10:47     E70      I0 X0 ZN5 HN9 IN0 XN1 JN6 YN9 R0 RN0 PN5
 -> UA     495     ORD   12:06     DEN   13:37     752      I0 X0 ZN5 HN9 IN0 XN1 JN6 YN9 R0 RN0 PN5
 -> UA     1067    DEN   14:33     LAX   16:04     738      I0 X0 ZN5 HN9 IN0 XN1 JN6 YN9 R0 RN0 PN5
UA/S5      3442    MIA   08:31     ORD   10:47     E70      I0 X0 ZN5 HN9 IN0 XN1 JN6 YN9 R0 RN0 PN5
 -> UA     495     ORD   12:06     DEN   13:37     752      I0 X0 ZN5 HN9 IN0 XN1 JN6 YN9 R0 RN0 PN5
 -> UA     731     DEN   15:53     LAX   17:14     752      I0 X0 ZN5 HN9 IN0 XN1 JN6 YN9 R0 RN0 PN5
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Thanks for the reply
Ok. I saw that AeroPlan's site also showed the availability, so it's clearly coming from them. I wonder what would happen if I booked the return through AC. I don't think I will because of the YQ fees, but I am curious as it let's me select the LIS-MIA flight....

Anyway, I really appreciate the quick response.

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I wonder what would happen if I booked the return through AC. I don't think I will because of the YQ fees, but I am curious as it let's me select the LIS-MIA flight....

Anyway, I really appreciate the quick response.
If there is no actual award availability, the booking will not go through.
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Old Jun 2, 2012 | 6:24 pm
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Old Jun 2, 2012 | 8:34 pm
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Hi KVS, any chance of adding a StarAlliance/UA method soon as well? It seems to be the best at trying to manipulate connections.

Thanks.
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Hi KVS, any chance of adding a StarAlliance/UA method soon as well? It seems to be the best at trying to manipulate connections.
Have you considered using he [Awards/AC-StarAlliance] Method, which also has excellent connection building capabilities?
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Old Jun 3, 2012 | 6:14 pm
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Yes, that's what I'm already using, but UA just seems that little bit better! AC works very well anyway, so it should not be a problem in most scenarios
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Originally Posted by belfordrocks
Hi KVS, any chance of adding a StarAlliance/UA method soon as well? It seems to be the best at trying to manipulate connections.

Thanks.
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Have you considered using he [Awards/AC-StarAlliance] Method, which also has excellent connection building capabilities?
I have to agree with belfordrocks. The UA engine is quite powerful and finds some obscure routings (like Asia from NA via Europe) that I don't think will show up on AC. In addition, it will also show QR availability that I don't think AC will show. Also (even if they are pointless), it will show UA Standard award availability.

Given my experience writing my script (see my signature), I could offer consulting services on getting the relevant data off of the UA award searches
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In addition, it will also show QR availability that I don't think AC will show. Also (even if they are pointless), it will show UA Standard award availability.
UA Additional ("Standard") Award Availability is already fully covered by the [Awards-Upgrades/UA] Method and the UA-QR partnership (and the related Award search functionality) are about to be discontinued:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...15-2012-a.html
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Yes, that's what I'm already using, but UA just seems that little bit better! AC works very well anyway, so it should not be a problem in most scenarios
Originally Posted by jasonvr
I have to agree with belfordrocks. The UA engine is quite powerful and finds some obscure routings (like Asia from NA via Europe) that I don't think will show up on AC.
While there may be limited scenarios, where the UA Engine can provide some benefit, overall, it is very similar to [Awards/AC-StarAlliance], both in terms of data accuracy and route construction capabilities. Also, given the fact that both of the existing Engines have 100% support across all 26 Star Alliance member airlines, adding a 3rd one, may cause confusion to other users, who will not know which one to choose.

Nevertheless, we will keep the possibility of adding the 3rd Star Alliance Award Search Engine in mind.
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Hmm... thanks

Another question- is there a way to view historical fares and fare rules? Thanks.
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Hmm... thanks

Another question- is there a way to view historical fares and fare rules? Thanks.
Not at moment, but if there a particular historic Fare you are interested in, please PM and we will retrieve it for you.
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Any idea when will CX Premium Y availability being introduced ?
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Any idea when will CX Premium Y availability being introduced ?
KVS Tool already supports CX Premium Economy Regular, Award Availability & Seat Maps as of V7.0.2.
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