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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:
http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Websites information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:

http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:
http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:
http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
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3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
Terms of Use:

https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:

https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://en.aegeanair.com
Terms of Use:

https://eservice.evaair.com
Terms of Use:

https://flymas.mobi/itravel/viewBooking.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://fly.rj.com/MyBookings/Home/EN/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://skyvector.com/airport/
Terms of Use:

https://m.aeroflot.ru/b/info/pnr/load
Terms of Use:

https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://mobile1.emirates.com/myb/review.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://myb.s7.ru/getMyBooking.action
Terms of Use:

https://mytripandmore.com/Itinerary.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
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9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
Intellectual property notifications
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D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
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https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
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https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
Prohibited Activities

You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.

You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

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You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.

When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

https://wftc3.e-travel.com
Terms of Use:

https://wtrweb.worldtracer.aero/WorldTracerWeb/pax.do
Terms of Use:

https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/S...MileCalc_en.do
Terms of Use:

https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/ETDisplay.tk
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/getPnr.tk
Terms of Use:

https://www.airberlin.com/en-DE/cockpit
Terms of Use:

https://www.airfrance.fr/cgi-bin/AF/...chPnrAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.alaskaair.com/booking/reservationlookup
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https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
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https://www.britishairways.com/trave...g/public/en_gb
Terms of Use:

https://www.checkmytrip.com/CMTSERVLET
Terms of Use:
https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
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https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
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https://www.finnair.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.flysas.com
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https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.lot.com
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https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

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...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.
https://www.routehappy.com/
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https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
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https://www.tripple.jp
Terms of Use:

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
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https://www.viewtrip.com/GetItin.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://www.virginamerica.com/book/ow/a1/
Terms of Use:

https://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/g...ndBooking.next
Terms of Use:

https://www.virtuallythere.com/new/reservations.html
Terms of Use:

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/
Terms of Use:

http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi
Terms of Use:

http://www.airframes.org/fleet/
Terms of Use:

http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...oking-now.html
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightradar24.com/
Terms of Use:

http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...ingByFlight.do
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...tusByFlight.do
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightview.com/TravelTool...eryResults.asp
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/viewairport.asp
Terms of Use:

http://www.gcmap.com/airport/
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui
Terms of Use:
http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
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Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
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http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
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http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://www.myairlines.ru
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http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
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http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
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http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
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http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
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http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
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Old Apr 26, 2012 | 11:56 am
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Originally Posted by eery
I am not user of KVS tool, but before buying licence, I would like to know if there is possible to find awards tickets for Korean Air flights, concretely between Seoul and Honolulu and Seoul and Europe.
Thank you
Welcome to FT!

Originally Posted by belfordrocks
KVS can correct me, but I believe you cannot. It's probably the only major award travel opportunity that cannot be checked online.
Indeed, KE Award Availability is not currently visible via any Tool, service or website whatsoever.

Other than this notable exception, the KVS Tool fully supports Award Availability throughout all 3 major alliances (Star Alliance, OneWorld and SkyTeam):

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Classes
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Old Apr 26, 2012 | 4:22 pm
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Personally, I prefer KVS, but I hate the go arounds to make it work on Mac OS. Until then I'm using the competition. Would be nice if you had a mac native client.
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Old Apr 26, 2012 | 5:14 pm
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KVS shows YS+, AA can't see it

i'm trying to book a one-way coach saver award, MIA-EZE. lan arg (4M) shows availability in coach (YS+) on the KVS tool, amadeus-oneworld. but when i call AA to book it, they tell me it's only available in biz. i called 4M who tells me the seats in coach are available to OW members. KVS uses qantas to show availability, so if it's available to qantas, it should be available to AA, right? why can't AA see them? are they blocking them? any clues?
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Old Apr 26, 2012 | 5:32 pm
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Originally Posted by IAD1k
i'm trying to book a one-way coach saver award, MIA-EZE. lan arg (4M) shows availability in coach (YS+) on the KVS tool, amadeus-oneworld. but when i call AA to book it, they tell me it's only available in biz. i called 4M who tells me the seats in coach are available to OW members. KVS uses qantas to show availability, so if it's available to qantas, it should be available to AA, right? why can't AA see them? are they blocking them? any clues?
In my experience the BA/Oneworld and the QF/Oneworld tools do sometimes show different availability. I would cross-check with the BA/Oneworld tool (which is generally more accurate) before calling...
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Old Apr 26, 2012 | 7:11 pm
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Originally Posted by IAD1k
i'm trying to book a one-way coach saver award, MIA-EZE. lan arg (4M) shows availability in coach (YS+) on the KVS tool, amadeus-oneworld. but when i call AA to book it, they tell me it's only available in biz. i called 4M who tells me the seats in coach are available to OW members. KVS uses qantas to show availability, so if it's available to qantas, it should be available to AA, right? why can't AA see them? are they blocking them? any clues?
Please see the reply in the http://www.Flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...l#post18468182 Thread.

Originally Posted by belfordrocks
In my experience the BA/Oneworld and the QF/Oneworld tools do sometimes show different availability. I would cross-check with the BA/Oneworld tool (which is generally more accurate) before calling...
Indeed, cross-checking LA/LP/4M Availability using the [Awards/BA-OneWorld] Method is a good idea.
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Old Apr 26, 2012 | 8:36 pm
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Originally Posted by IAD1k
i'm trying to book a one-way coach saver award, MIA-EZE. lan arg (4M) shows availability in coach (YS+) on the KVS tool, amadeus-oneworld. but when i call AA to book it, they tell me it's only available in biz. i called 4M who tells me the seats in coach are available to OW members. KVS uses qantas to show availability, so if it's available to qantas, it should be available to AA, right? why can't AA see them? are they blocking them? any clues?
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Old Apr 28, 2012 | 2:17 pm
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Why do only connecting flights show up for awards?

I'm a new user with the latest version and diamond level and think I might be making some error. When searching for flights that I know have some award availability (e.g. MSP to ATL on DL), the tool shows results for connecting routes only. For example, MSP to DTW to ATL, rather than MSP to ATL. If I search DTW to ATL, which previously showed as having an award, then it shows some connecting routes from DTW to MSP to ATL, for example. Am I doing something wrong that makes it not show the direct route availability?

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Old Apr 28, 2012 | 2:32 pm
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Originally Posted by froggers15
I'm a new user with the latest version and diamond level and think I might be making some error. When searching for flights that I know have some award availability (e.g. MSP to ATL on DL), the tool shows results for connecting routes only. For example, MSP to DTW to ATL, rather than MSP to ATL. If I search DTW to ATL, which previously showed as having an award, then it shows some connecting routes from DTW to MSP to ATL, for example. Am I doing something wrong that makes it not show the direct route availability?
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Could you please provide some specific date example(s)?
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Old Apr 28, 2012 | 3:39 pm
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KL flights for KL members, not DL?

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Could you please provide some specific date example(s)?
Hi,

So I think I just needed to scroll more and use the Ctrl-N, because that seems to have fixed it. So, now I have gone through the process of finding flights that have the awards I want. I found the one below on KLM and Delta is telling me they aren't available for me with Delta miles. Is she correct that though these seats might be available, they are not available for people with Delta miles (vs. KLM). Any recommendations for a) how to know that in advance and/or b) how to get around it?

Thanks a lot.

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.9.R2/Diamond - WSpan: Awards/DL-SkyTeam]
Code:
SVO  Moscow Sheremetyevo RU [UUEE]
AMS  Amsterdam Schiphol NL [EHAM]
TUE  10 Jul 2012 | 1 Seat | SM Status: Diamond

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
KL         904     SVO   18:00     AMS   19:30     737  0   CS+
KL         902     SVO   05:35     AMS   06:55     737  0   CS+ YS+
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Originally Posted by froggers15
So I think I just needed to scroll more and use the Ctrl-N, because that seems to have fixed it. So, now I have gone through the process of finding flights that have the awards I want. I found the one below on KLM and Delta is telling me they aren't available for me with Delta miles. Is she correct that though these seats might be available, they are not available for people with Delta miles (vs. KLM). Any recommendations for a) how to know that in advance and/or b) how to get around it?

Thanks a lot.

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.9.R2/Diamond - WSpan: Awards/DL-SkyTeam]
Code:
SVO  Moscow Sheremetyevo RU [UUEE]
AMS  Amsterdam Schiphol NL [EHAM]
TUE  10 Jul 2012 | 1 Seat | SM Status: Diamond

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
KL         904     SVO   18:00     AMS   19:30     737  0   CS+
KL         902     SVO   05:35     AMS   06:55     737  0   CS+ YS+
Those Award seats are definitely available (incl. as SM Awards).

For tips on dealing with Agents, who may claim otherwise, please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AgentSaysNo:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.9.R2/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/SkyTeam/FR-AF]
Code:
SVO  Moscow Sheremetyevo RU [UUEE]
AMS  Amsterdam Schiphol NL [EHAM]
TUE  10 Jul 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
KL         902     SVO   05:35     AMS   06:55              CS+  YS+
KL         904     SVO   18:00     AMS   19:30              CS1  YS+
AZ         595     SVO   06:00     FCO   07:55              CS+  YS+
 -> AZ     108     FCO   08:55     AMS   11:30
AF         2545    SVO   07:25     CDG   09:20              CS1  YM+
 -> AF     1640    CDG   11:40     AMS   12:55
AF         2545    SVO   07:25     CDG   09:20              CS4  YM4
 -> AF     1740    CDG   12:50     AMS   14:05
AF         1145    SVO   09:45     CDG   11:40              CX-  YM4
 -> AF     1740    CDG   12:50     AMS   14:05
AF         1645    SVO   13:55     CDG   15:50              CS1  YM+
 -> AF     2240    CDG   17:45     AMS   19:00
OK         893     SVO   14:45     PRG   15:40              CS+  YS+
 -> OK     618     PRG   17:15     AMS   18:50
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Old May 4, 2012 | 9:25 am
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Looks like the "check for updates" feature was broken in 6.9.9.R2. I was having problems with AC-StarAlliance so I checked for an update. It told me I was up to date. Went to the website and found 6.9.9.R3 which solved the AC-StarAlliance issue
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Old May 4, 2012 | 2:33 pm
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Originally Posted by jasonvr
Looks like the "check for updates" feature was broken in 6.9.9.R2. I was having problems with AC-StarAlliance so I checked for an update. It told me I was up to date. Went to the website and found 6.9.9.R3 which solved the AC-StarAlliance issue
The system will not currently issue notifications for minor (.Rx) version updates.
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Are there any trials available for the tool? Thanks.
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Problems With Awards/AC-StarAlliance

As noted in this thread, I've been having problems trying to book an Aeroplan award ticket Africa-Europe return.

When I try to check availability with Awards/AC-StarAlliance (using KVS v6.9.9.R3 on Win7), I get the following error:
Datasource Error [RD]: "(Engine Error/Unsupported Route)"

This seems to occur for any route between Africa and Europe (eg: JNB-LHR, FRA-ADD, etc). However, it doesn't occur for TATL routes (eg: LHR-YYZ, or even JNB-YYZ (which routes via LHR)).

Is this a problem with KVSTool, or with the Air Canada/Aeroplan booking engine? (The latter seems plausible, as I get errors when I try similar Africa-Europe routes on their website - so I was trying to use KVS to check if it was an availability problem, or a technical problem).

On a related note, can I check award availability on ET using Sabre:Availability/FS? This shows X-class availability for ET flights (although not for any LH flights, as far as I can tell), although it isn't listed as a method for checking award availability on ET on the KVS FAQ. Or does availability in X mean something else in this context?
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