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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:
http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Websites information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:

http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:
http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:
http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
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3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
Terms of Use:

https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:

https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://en.aegeanair.com
Terms of Use:

https://eservice.evaair.com
Terms of Use:

https://flymas.mobi/itravel/viewBooking.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://fly.rj.com/MyBookings/Home/EN/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://skyvector.com/airport/
Terms of Use:

https://m.aeroflot.ru/b/info/pnr/load
Terms of Use:

https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://mobile1.emirates.com/myb/review.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://myb.s7.ru/getMyBooking.action
Terms of Use:

https://mytripandmore.com/Itinerary.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
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9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
Intellectual property notifications
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D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
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M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.

https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
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https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
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You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.

You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

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You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.

When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

https://wftc3.e-travel.com
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https://wtrweb.worldtracer.aero/WorldTracerWeb/pax.do
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https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/S...MileCalc_en.do
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https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/ETDisplay.tk
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/getPnr.tk
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https://www.airberlin.com/en-DE/cockpit
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https://www.airfrance.fr/cgi-bin/AF/...chPnrAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.alaskaair.com/booking/reservationlookup
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https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
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https://www.britishairways.com/trave...g/public/en_gb
Terms of Use:

https://www.checkmytrip.com/CMTSERVLET
Terms of Use:
https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
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https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
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https://www.finnair.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.flysas.com
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https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.lot.com
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https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

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https://www.routehappy.com/
Terms of Use:

https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
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https://www.tripple.jp
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https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:
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https://www.viewtrip.com/GetItin.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://www.virginamerica.com/book/ow/a1/
Terms of Use:

https://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/g...ndBooking.next
Terms of Use:

https://www.virtuallythere.com/new/reservations.html
Terms of Use:

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/
Terms of Use:

http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi
Terms of Use:

http://www.airframes.org/fleet/
Terms of Use:

http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...oking-now.html
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightradar24.com/
Terms of Use:

http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...ingByFlight.do
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...tusByFlight.do
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightview.com/TravelTool...eryResults.asp
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/viewairport.asp
Terms of Use:

http://www.gcmap.com/airport/
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui
Terms of Use:
http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
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Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
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http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
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http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://www.myairlines.ru
Terms of Use:

http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 3:14 pm
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Originally Posted by SkyTeam777
KVS, you say that KQ award inventory is available, but it's not. Even after going to the link you suggest for Method Information, it clearly states that the only award inventory showing is DL, KL, AF so pretty much just what delta.com shows. Both the online tool, and my computer tool do not display the W or D classes for KQ...can you please point out how I can see it as available as many people on here seem to have the same problem of not finding it. Thanks!

It is supposed to be viewable using the availability tab with the Galileo: Availability/ETR method and inputing "D" for business awards and "W" for coach awards on the classes line. In my experience since February 1st, it does not show these classes available for long haul on KQ between NBO and AMS, CDG and LHR. I called DL several times and found availability when KVS showed none.
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 3:14 pm
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Originally Posted by SkyTeam777
KVS, you say that KQ award inventory is available, but it's not. Even after going to the link you suggest for Method Information, it clearly states that the only award inventory showing is DL, KL, AF so pretty much just what delta.com shows. Both the online tool, and my computer tool do not display the W or D classes for KQ...can you please point out how I can see it as available as many people on here seem to have the same problem of not finding it. Thanks!
Actually, it says at http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Classes that for KQ awards you need to use the [Galileo: ETR] method (and not the [DLM: Awards/SkyTeam] Method, which you appear to be using ):

[KVS Availability Tool 5.2.0/Diamond - Galileo: Availability/ETR/JP]
Code:
LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
NBO  Nairobi Metro / Nairobi Jomo Kenyatta Int'l KE = NBO WIL [HKNA]
THU  01 Jul 2010

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
KQ         101     LHR   20:00     NBO   06:30 +1  772  0   D4 W4 C4 S4
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 8:10 am
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Originally Posted by KVS
Actually, it says at http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Classes that for KQ awards you need to use the [Galileo: ETR] method (and not the [DLM: Awards/SkyTeam] Method, which you appear to be using ):

[KVS Availability Tool 5.2.0/Diamond - Galileo: Availability/ETR/JP]
Code:
LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
NBO  Nairobi Metro / Nairobi Jomo Kenyatta Int'l KE = NBO WIL [HKNA]
THU  01 Jul 2010

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
KQ         101     LHR   20:00     NBO   06:30 +1  772  0   D4 W4 C4 S4
KVS, Im going to get this at some point, I promise Im posting this here since it seems others are hunting for KQ availability too. I can find the search you posted above. But every other search for the last two weeks Ive tried in March for CAI-NBO; NBO-JNB; NBO-DKR has said Query Returned No Results when searching for D class. Sure, there could be no D class, but that seems strange given KQ's wide availability. Am I doing something wrong still even after following the advice listed above?
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 9:01 am
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Originally Posted by SkyTeam777
KVS, Im going to get this at some point, I promise Im posting this here since it seems others are hunting for KQ availability too. I can find the search you posted above. But every other search for the last two weeks Ive tried in March for CAI-NBO; NBO-JNB; NBO-DKR has said Query Returned No Results when searching for D class. Sure, there could be no D class, but that seems strange given KQ's wide availability. Am I doing something wrong still even after following the advice listed above?

Can you call Delta to check what they see for those same queries? That's my issue - KVS showed no availability but Delta did.

Also, I too see "D"" and "W" in the July 1 example KVS provided.
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 9:13 am
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Can you call Delta to check what they see for those same queries? That's my issue - KVS showed no availability but Delta did.

Also, I too see "D"" and "W" in the July 1 example KVS provided.
I can, and I will. But, I was hoping that buying the KVS subscription would ease the process in searching and calling a bit.
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 10:51 am
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Originally Posted by SkyTeam777
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Originally Posted by SkyTeam777
Im posting this here since it seems others are hunting for KQ availability too. I can find the search you posted above. But every other search for the last two weeks Ive tried in March for CAI-NBO; NBO-JNB; NBO-DKR has said Query Returned No Results when searching for D class. Sure, there could be no D class, but that seems strange given KQ's wide availability. Am I doing something wrong still even after following the advice listed above?
Terms like "strange", "logical" and "common sense" are usually not applicable within the inventory/revenue management realms

There is a slight possibility that this may be a technical/connectivity issue (on KQ's end), but, most likely, there is just no award availability for the dates/routes you are looking for...

[KVS Availability Tool 5.2.0/Diamond - Galileo: Availability/ETR/JP]
Code:
CAI  Cairo Int'l EG [HECA]
NBO  Nairobi Metro / Nairobi Jomo Kenyatta Int'l KE = NBO WIL [HKNA]
TUE  01 Jun 2010

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
KQ         321     CAI   00:25     NBO   06:45     73G  1   D4 W4
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 12:44 pm
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There is a slight possibility that this may be a technical/connectivity issue (on KQ's end), but, most likely, there is just no award availability for the dates/routes you are looking for...

[KVS Availability Tool 5.2.0/Diamond - Galileo: Availability/ETR/JP]
Code:
CAI  Cairo Int'l EG [HECA]
NBO  Nairobi Metro / Nairobi Jomo Kenyatta Int'l KE = NBO WIL [HKNA]
TUE  01 Jun 2010

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
KQ         321     CAI   00:25     NBO   06:45     73G  1   D4 W4
This makes sense...there doesnt appear to be availability on KQ before mid-May on any route. Or out of the 50 or so queries I did, Im having zero luck. With KQ, it seems more like theyve locked up inventory for some reason. Perhaps just for a certain time period...and I wonder if that means phone agents cant see it either!
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 2:19 am
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New to KVS so please excuse this very basic quesiton, as I feel my way around.

When I search for fares, I get a page showing the lowest 25 or so fares in my chosen class, but I don't see a means of moving on to the next higher batches of fares. Am I missing something ??
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 4:31 pm
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Originally Posted by Frequentflyer99
New to KVS so please excuse this very basic quesiton, as I feel my way around.

When I search for fares, I get a page showing the lowest 25 or so fares in my chosen class, but I don't see a means of moving on to the next higher batches of fares. Am I missing something ??
Please try the following:
  • If using [Fares/TVN], activate the [Max] option and try again;
  • Use [Fares/DotRes], where you can specify a Cabin Class and narrow the list, based on departure/return dates;
  • Use [Fares/PSH], where you can specify a Cabin Class and narrow the list, based on the departure date.

P.S. Please PM, indicating your current e-mail address on your KVS Tool account.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 5:30 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS
Please try the following:
Specifying the carrier in the travelocity.ca search will also help as it will show more fares for that carrier rather than just the base 25. That often helps.
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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 1:47 pm
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Using ITA to look for UA award and upgrades now only shows direct flights, connections are no longer displayed.

For example DEN - MUC displays only the one direct flight a day and none of the connections at ORD or IAD. DEN - BRU shows no flights because only connections are available.

Actually in some cases this is a desirable feature, but when looking for all possible routings on a given day it is a serious disadvantage.
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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 2:45 pm
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Originally Posted by ff100
Using ITA to look for UA award and upgrades now only shows direct flights, connections are no longer displayed.

Just requested DEN/MUC for FEB 24 via ITA: Awards-Upgrades/X1 and see both direct (UA 902) and connections (14 via ORD & IAD with various intermediate points).
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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 2:56 pm
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Originally Posted by ff100
Using ITA to look for UA award and upgrades now only shows direct flights, connections are no longer displayed.

For example DEN - MUC displays only the one direct flight a day and none of the connections at ORD or IAD. DEN - BRU shows no flights because only connections are available.

Actually in some cases this is a desirable feature, but when looking for all possible routings on a given day it is a serious disadvantage.
Are you sure you haven't left the Filter on by mistake?
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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 4:15 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS
Are you sure you haven't left the Filter on by mistake?
YEP!!

Somehow the "Non-stop/direct flights only" box got checked.

Thanks for the fast help!!!!
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 12:20 am
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I just started using KVS this evening, and was wondering if any "new user guides" existed... I have gotten some of the basic features down, but would like to learn more about the advanced features of KVS..

Thanks
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