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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:
http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Websites information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:

http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:
http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:
http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
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3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
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https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:

https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://en.aegeanair.com
Terms of Use:

https://eservice.evaair.com
Terms of Use:

https://flymas.mobi/itravel/viewBooking.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://fly.rj.com/MyBookings/Home/EN/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://skyvector.com/airport/
Terms of Use:

https://m.aeroflot.ru/b/info/pnr/load
Terms of Use:

https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://mobile1.emirates.com/myb/review.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://myb.s7.ru/getMyBooking.action
Terms of Use:

https://mytripandmore.com/Itinerary.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
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9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
Intellectual property notifications
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D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
E. You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
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Limitations on your use:
You agree that you will not Misuse the Site. "Misuse" includes, but is not limited to, using the Site to do any of the following:
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L. Copy or create derivative works from, display, distribute, license, perform, publish, recreate, reproduce, sell, transfer, or transmit any information, products, services, or software obtained by, from, or through the Site.
M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.

https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
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https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
Prohibited Activities

You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.

You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

You may not copy, derive, edit, translate, decompile, reverse engineer, modify, use, or reproduce any code or source relating to our sites, including without limitation, any service or product Southwest offers.

You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.

You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.

When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

https://wftc3.e-travel.com
Terms of Use:

https://wtrweb.worldtracer.aero/WorldTracerWeb/pax.do
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https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/S...MileCalc_en.do
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https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/ETDisplay.tk
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/getPnr.tk
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https://www.airberlin.com/en-DE/cockpit
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https://www.airfrance.fr/cgi-bin/AF/...chPnrAction.do
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https://www.alaskaair.com/booking/reservationlookup
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https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
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https://www.britishairways.com/trave...g/public/en_gb
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https://www.checkmytrip.com/CMTSERVLET
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https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
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3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
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https://www.finnair.com
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https://www.flysas.com
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https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
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https://www.lot.com
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https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

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https://www.routehappy.com/
Terms of Use:

https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
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https://www.tripple.jp
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https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without Uniteds prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without Uniteds prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.

https://www.viewtrip.com/GetItin.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://www.virginamerica.com/book/ow/a1/
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https://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/g...ndBooking.next
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https://www.virtuallythere.com/new/reservations.html
Terms of Use:

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/
Terms of Use:

http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi
Terms of Use:

http://www.airframes.org/fleet/
Terms of Use:

http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...oking-now.html
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightradar24.com/
Terms of Use:

http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...ingByFlight.do
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...tusByFlight.do
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightview.com/TravelTool...eryResults.asp
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/viewairport.asp
Terms of Use:

http://www.gcmap.com/airport/
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui
Terms of Use:
http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
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Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
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http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
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http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
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http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
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http://www.myairlines.ru
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http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
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http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
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http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
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http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
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http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 11:18 am
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Originally Posted by JIMCHI
Perhaps I missed something along the way, but the WSpan "track" feature is no longer available. This was, as far as I know, the only way to get good info about AA and BA flights, such as the reason for a delay or cancellation (ex. AA85 today). Is this feature gone for good?
Regretfully, the engine that was powering the [WSpan Operational Info] feature was permanently decommissioned.

However, this impacts AA only.

Operational Info for BA as well as AC/UA/US/LH/OS/SK/TP/LO/JK/BD/TK/SQ/NZ/NH/OZ/SA/KF/LX, QF/AY/IB/MA/LA/RJ, KL/AF/AM/KE/KQ/OK, FV/LY/FM continues to be available via the [Amadeus Operational Info] option:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.7.0/Diamond - Amadeus Operational Info: BA 10/30 Oct 2011]
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BRITISH AIRWAYS - BA 10

[Planned Flight Info]
SYD-BKK         17:35/Sun - 22:45/Sun  09:10
BKK-LHR         00:10/Mon - 05:55/Mon  12:45

[Flight Notes]
                MEMBER OF ONEWORLD
SYD-BKK         DEPARTS TERMINAL 1
BKK-LHR         ARRIVES TERMINAL 3
                9/ NON-SMOKING
                ET/ ELECTRONIC TKT CANDIDATE

[Operational Flight Info]
SYD      17:35  ESTIMATED TIME OF DEPARTURE
SYD      17:42  LEFT THE GATE
SYD      18:03  TOOK OFF
SYD      -      DELAY OPERATIONAL REASON
BKK      23:03  ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL
BKK      23:03  AIRCRAFT LANDED
BKK      23:11  ARRIVED
BKK      00:36  ESTIMATED TIME OF DEPARTURE
BKK      -      DELAY LATE INCOMING AIRCRAFT
BKK      00:30  LEFT THE GATE
BKK      00:56  TOOK OFF
BKK      -      DELAY LATE INCOMING AIRCRAFT
LHR      05:48  ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL
LHR      05:42  AIRCRAFT LANDED
LHR      05:46  ARRIVED
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 11:26 am
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Originally Posted by jasonvr
So what is the graphical seat map option supposed to do? In most cases it is greyed out, but for CO flights it is selectable but does nothing
Thanks for reporting the bug. The Graphical Seat Map option is currently available for AC/AA/DL/AF/AZ/AM/AS/VX/FL.

Originally Posted by jasonvr
Also, is there any way to be able to display E+ seat availability on UA? They always show as "Unavailable"
Not at the moment, but this may change, once the UA-CO website integration is complete.
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 11:29 am
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Originally Posted by fedechat
Thank you but I was trying to save few $$ in order to try your product before I jump to any semi-annual/annual subscription.
Welcome to the KVS Tool!

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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 2:13 pm
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Originally Posted by sinecure
The only wall I've hit is, is it possible to search on a multicity fare?

IE YYZ-HAN but return SIN-YYZ? I notice that CX for example is cheaper on a full RT ticket compared to 2 o/w tickets.
I don't think it's possible to search for this automatically. However, you can work it out by looking at the fare-rules. The example you give is for an open-jaws ticket - and in particular, a single open-jaws (also destination open-jaws), as it's only 'open' at one end.

So, first you look up the fare rules for a return YYZ-HAN, and see what it says under 'combinations'. In many cases, it will say something like:
'Open Jaws/Round Trips/Circle Trips - Fares May Be Combined On A Half Round Trip Basis'

You then look up the fare rules for a return YYZ-SIN, and hopefully it will say something similar. If so, then a single open-jaws for that routing is possible - and the fare is calculated by adding half the YYZ-HAN return fare, and half the YYZ-SIN return fare. As you say, a return is often cheaper than two one-ways - and an open-jaws basically gives you the average of two return fares, and so will often also be cheaper than two one-ways.

You can also do departure open-jaws (when you return to a different airport from the one you flew out of) and double open-jaws (eg: AAA-BBB, and then CCC-DDD). However, although single open-jaws often seem to be possible, double open-jaws, or departure open-jaws (especially if returning to a different country) can be harder to find. There are often some restrictions imposed on open-jaws routings (eg: limiting the distance between the two 'open' points, or requiring them to be in the same area).

If you wanted to do, say, YYZ-HKG, HKG-HAN, SIN-YYZ, then that's a stopover in HKG (plus an open-jaws). Whether that is possible will depend on:
a) the routing rules (ie: is travel via HKG allowed), and:
b) the fare rules (ie: are stopovers allowed, and if so, are they free or do they require an additional fee)

I regularly travel on such tickets (although not on the routing or airline you suggested) so it's definitely possible. However, the biggest problem often seems to be that although open-jaws and stopovers are allowed, online booking sites (even the airline's own websites) struggle to book anything other than simple returns.
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 9:19 pm
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Originally Posted by sinecure
Thanks for the tool.

So far so good, most of it is self explanatory.
Welcome to the KVS Tool, sinecure!

Originally Posted by sinecure
The only wall I've hit is, is it possible to search on a multicity fare?

IE YYZ-HAN but return SIN-YYZ? I notice that CX for example is cheaper on a full RT ticket compared to 2 o/w tickets.
Originally Posted by KQ321
I don't think it's possible to search for this automatically. However, you can work it out by looking at the fare-rules. The example you give is for an open-jaws ticket - and in particular, a single open-jaws (also destination open-jaws), as it's only 'open' at one end.

So, first you look up the fare rules for a return YYZ-HAN, and see what it says under 'combinations'. In many cases, it will say something like:
'Open Jaws/Round Trips/Circle Trips - Fares May Be Combined On A Half Round Trip Basis'

You then look up the fare rules for a return YYZ-SIN, and hopefully it will say something similar. If so, then a single open-jaws for that routing is possible - and the fare is calculated by adding half the YYZ-HAN return fare, and half the YYZ-SIN return fare. As you say, a return is often cheaper than two one-ways - and an open-jaws basically gives you the average of two return fares, and so will often also be cheaper than two one-ways.

You can also do departure open-jaws (when you return to a different airport from the one you flew out of) and double open-jaws (eg: AAA-BBB, and then CCC-DDD). However, although single open-jaws often seem to be possible, double open-jaws, or departure open-jaws (especially if returning to a different country) can be harder to find. There are often some restrictions imposed on open-jaws routings (eg: limiting the distance between the two 'open' points, or requiring them to be in the same area).

If you wanted to do, say, YYZ-HKG, HKG-HAN, SIN-YYZ, then that's a stopover in HKG (plus an open-jaws). Whether that is possible will depend on:
a) the routing rules (ie: is travel via HKG allowed), and:
b) the fare rules (ie: are stopovers allowed, and if so, are they free or do they require an additional fee)

I regularly travel on such tickets (although not on the routing or airline you suggested) so it's definitely possible. However, the biggest problem often seems to be that although open-jaws and stopovers are allowed, online booking sites (even the airline's own websites) struggle to book anything other than simple returns.
Thanks for an excellent post and explanation, KQ321!

Fares only come in 3 types: Round-Trip, One-Way and Special Circle (RTW), and the KVS Tool supports all of them.

All other types of trips need to be constructed using a combination of the above Fares, subject to any applicable restrictions in the Combinations section of the Fare Rules.
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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 8:32 am
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Redeeming CX J award using AS miles

Hi all, just joined the site and became a Diamond on KVS. Starting to get ready to book our honeymoon for this time next year and was doing some research on a trip to Bali. My question is howcome when check availability and award status on KVS, only CX 889 shows up and never CX839(the 744 ?)? Thanks a bunch for helping a noob!

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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 9:46 am
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Thanks KQ321 & KVS for those replies!
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Old Nov 3, 2011 | 11:43 am
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I paid about 40min ago now for a Diamond 2 months access, filled out the online registration form but still no temporary code Anyone know how long it takes to arrive? (I know the permanent one takes 24h)
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Old Nov 3, 2011 | 1:20 pm
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Originally Posted by alanjrobertson
I paid about 40min ago now for a Diamond 2 months access, filled out the online registration form but still no temporary code Anyone know how long it takes to arrive? (I know the permanent one takes 24h)
Welcome to the KVS Tool!

Temporary Registration Codes are issued instantly, so if you don't see it in your e-mail Inbox within a few minutes, be sure to check your Junk folder.
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Thanks - checked my spam but nothing there either. Just had the 'confirmation' and 'your order' emails, neither of which had the code in them. However had filled out the contact form on the site and have now been emailed the temporary code and got it working
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Old Nov 3, 2011 | 5:33 pm
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OK, sorry but KVS newbie questions continue!! Looking at *A availability for a couple of trips - EDI-EWR-ORD and EDI-?-AKL. Am using SNT:Awards/StarAlliance and it works but seems pretty slow moving from day to day - I'm a bit unsure what the benefit is over just using the ANA tool? It seems it anything quicker moving between days! I was hoping KVS would allow a way to search multiple days at once (I'm pretty flexible around dates, just looking for reward availablility)
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Old Nov 3, 2011 | 9:42 pm
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Originally Posted by alanjrobertson
OK, sorry but KVS newbie questions continue!! Looking at *A availability for a couple of trips - EDI-EWR-ORD and EDI-?-AKL. Am using SNT:Awards/StarAlliance and it works but seems pretty slow moving from day to day
Have you tried the [Awards/AC-StarAlliance] Method (which is faster)?
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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 12:22 am
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Originally Posted by SFore
Hi all, just joined the site and became a Diamond on KVS.
Welcome to FT & the KVS Tool!

Originally Posted by SFore
Starting to get ready to book our honeymoon for this time next year and was doing some research on a trip to Bali. My first question is howcome when check availability and award status on KVS, only CX 889 shows up and never CX839(the 744 ?)?
What date(s) are you checking and which KVS Tool Method(s) are you using?

[KVS Availability Tool 6.7.0/Diamond - Axess: Awards/JL-OneWorld]
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YVR  Vancouver Metro / Intl BC CA = YVR CXH [CYVR]
HKG  Hong Kong Intl HK [VHHH]
THU  20 Sep 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
CX         889     YVR   02:45     HKG   06:55 +1  77D  0   FS2  CS2  YS-
CX         839     YVR   14:50     HKG   18:55 +1  74A  0   FS2  CS2  YS4
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Have you tried the [Awards/AC-StarAlliance] Method (which is faster)?
Thanks - I tried it too but didn't find it much faster. Just clicking next day on ANA tool seems much quicker Is there any way to get multiple days searched automatically??
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Originally Posted by alanjrobertson
Thanks - I tried it too but didn't find it much faster.
That's quite strange -- perhaps it's an issue with your internet connection/speed.

As one KVS Tool member noted previously:

Originally Posted by Jumpgate
Searches are fast, robust, and easy to use. No back button, no re-filling out forms, no interpreting ANA's different shades of yellow - no web browser period.

I could perform search and search after search on ANA or DL.com using KVS in a fraction of the time it would take using the web sites.
Originally Posted by alanjrobertson
Is there any way to get multiple days searched automatically??
Not automatically, but, under normal circumstances, it does not take long to 'scroll' through multiple dates using the [Next Day]/[Previous Day] shortcut buttons in the KVS Tool.

As another member noted:

Originally Posted by sgopal2
In my case, I wanted to look for award openings for an entire month period. This took me about me about 5 mins for each city-pair using KVS (vs 60 mins using the manual method). However KVS does make it easy to search sequential dates (forward or backward) using the down and up arrow keys buttons on the Awards/Upgrade tabs.
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