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I signed up for experflyer a few months ago. Its not bad..Much easier than using the UA site. It gives you a good advantage for being able to price out fare-buckets. It doesn't show award buckets for UA, which kind of sucks but for the price its not bad at all.
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Originally Posted by entrada
Is this statement correct - that the paid version doesn't permit the user to check UA award/upgrade availability?
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award availabilty
does the kvs tool show the award availabilty of SQ/LH/UA/TG?
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Originally Posted by KVS
Thanks, ac777 :).
BTW, here's some statistical data on the Tool as of today :):
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Hi KVS,
It is just getting better and better your tool, and the impressive number of users emphasize the fact :-) Regarding the new function, PNR retrieval, I was hoping to see a 'real' PNR and not just a link to the already well-known sites. The reason is that it would be nice to be able to see the booking class....is that possible ? |
Originally Posted by KVS
In the past, KVS Tool was able to show award/upgrade availability for 7+ *A airlines. Presently, the FULL-tier version gives you access to award/upgrade availability on 3 *A carriers; unfortunately, UA is not one of them.
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Originally Posted by legionnaire
KVS - which 3 *A Carriers?
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Originally Posted by Jespersm
The reason is that it would be nice to be able to see the booking class....is that possible ?
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Originally Posted by KVS
In the past, KVS Tool was able to show award/upgrade availability for 7+ *A airlines. Presently, the FULL-tier version gives you access to award/upgrade availability on 3 *A carriers; unfortunately, UA is not one of them.
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Originally Posted by thegingerman
Is that an intentional limitation coded into the software, or a technical issue that you are unable to avoid?
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How about making the result section tabbed and querying all engines (ITN, Galileo, ...) at once? You could display the results from the engines under the tabs. It would make comparing the differences between the access methods much easier. Another approach is to tile the results in one window.
Anyhow, it's a great tool! ^ |
Originally Posted by dieuwer
How about making the result section tabbed and querying all engines (ITN, Galileo, ...) at once? You could display the results from the engines under the tabs. It would make comparing the differences between the access methods much easier. Another approach is to tile the results in one window.
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This tool looks awesome. I sent the PM, so now I just wait until he gives me back the code, right? How did he collect the info to make the tool. Great, great job anywayz! :) :D
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Warning Re: Apollo/ITN/UA Access Method
It came to my attention that UA has recently redesigned its website to provide inaccurate/fake availability data to the Tool's Apollo/ITN/UA Access Method while providing genuine availability data only when a user clicks the [Flight Details] button for each flight on the United.com website.
Until this recent development took place, the availability data shown by United.com in "the expert mode" and availability shown using the Apollo/ITN/UA method would always match. Therefore, it is recommended that you do not use the Apollo/ITN/UA Access Method until further notice as the data shown there will not be reliable. This does not in any way affect other access methods, such as Amadeus/AUA/*A and Sabre/ITN/AX. These access methods continue to report accurate and reliable availability data for UA and other airlines. |
Warning Re: Apollo/ITN/UA Access Method
It came to my attention that UA has recently redesigned its website to provide inaccurate/fake availability data to the Tool's Apollo/ITN/UA Access Method while providing genuine availability data only when a user clicks the [Flight Details] button for each flight on the United.com website.
Until this recent development took place, the availability data shown by United.com in "the expert mode" and availability shown using the Apollo/ITN/UA method would always match. Therefore, it is recommended that you do not use the Apollo/ITN/UA Access Method until further notice as the data shown there will not be reliable. This does not in any way affect other access methods, such as Amadeus/AUA/*A and Sabre/ITN/AX. These access methods continue to report accurate and reliable availability data for UA and other airlines. |
Warning Re: Apollo/ITN/UA Access Method
It came to my attention that UA has recently redesigned its website to provide inaccurate/fake availability data to the Tool's Apollo/ITN/UA Access Method while providing genuine availability data only when a user clicks the [Flight Details] button for each flight on the United.com website.
Until this recent development took place, the availability data shown by United.com in "the expert mode" and availability shown using the Apollo/ITN/UA method would always match. Therefore, it is recommended that you do not use the Apollo/ITN/UA Access Method until further notice as the data shown there will not be reliable. This does not in any way affect other access methods, such as Amadeus/AUA/*A and Sabre/ITN/AX. These access methods continue to report accurate and reliable availability data for UA and other airlines. |
Warning Re: Apollo/ITN/UA Access Method
It came to my attention that UA has recently redesigned its website to provide inaccurate/fake availability data to the Tool's Apollo/ITN/UA Access Method while providing genuine availability data only when a user clicks the [Flight Details] button for each flight on the United.com website.
Until this recent development took place, the availability data shown by United.com in "the expert mode" and availability shown using the Apollo/ITN/UA method would always match. Therefore, it is recommended that you do not use the Apollo/ITN/UA Access Method until further notice as the data shown there will not be reliable. This does not in any way affect other access methods, such as Amadeus/AUA/*A and Sabre/ITN/AX. These access methods continue to report accurate and reliable availability data for UA and other airlines. |
Warning Re: Apollo/ITN/UA Access Method
It came to my attention that UA has recently redesigned its website to provide inaccurate/fake availability data to the Tool's Apollo/ITN/UA Access Method while providing genuine availability data only when a user clicks the [Flight Details] button for each flight on the United.com website.
Until this recent development took place, the availability data shown by United.com in "the expert mode" and availability shown using the Apollo/ITN/UA method would always match. Therefore, it is recommended that you do not use the Apollo/ITN/UA Access Method until further notice as the data shown there will not be reliable. This does not in any way affect other access methods, such as Amadeus/AUA/*A and Sabre/ITN/AX. These access methods continue to report accurate and reliable availability data for UA and other airlines. |
Originally Posted by KVS
This does not in any way affect other access methods, such as Amadeus/AUA/*A and Sabre/ITN/AX. These access methods continue to report accurate and reliable availability data for UA and other airlines.
Thanks for the heads-up -- I prefer Apollo: ITN/CWT personally so happy that is still valid. BTW any concerns on your end if someone contributes > once? ;) |
Originally Posted by PreferBulkhead
BTW any concerns on your end if someone contributes > once? ;)
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Warning Re: Apollo/ITN/UA Access Method
It came to my attention that UA has recently redesigned its website to provide inaccurate/fake availability data to the Tool's Apollo/ITN/UA Access Method while providing genuine availability data only when a user clicks the [Flight Details] button for each flight on the United.com website.
Until this recent development took place, the availability data shown by United.com in "the expert mode" and availability shown using the Apollo/ITN/UA method would always match. Therefore, it is recommended that you do not use the Apollo/ITN/UA Access Method until further notice as the data shown there will not be reliable. This does not in any way affect other access methods, such as Amadeus/AUA/*A and Sabre/ITN/AX. These access methods continue to report accurate and reliable availability data for UA and other airlines. |
Several other threads have been started indicating that ITN does not seem to show (at least for North American routes) the I fare bucket any more? What is going on?
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KVS Availability Tool - AC/ Air Canada
This thread is a branch-off from the Master KVS Availability Tool thread, and is intended for discussion and support on AC and Aeroplan-specific issues.
Please continue to use the main thread for all other matters, and http://www.KVSTool.com for membership-related matters. Availability: AC Booking Classes Displayed by the KVS Tool (AC Award/Upgrade classes are in green):
Aeroplan Star Alliance & Partner Award Availability:
Fares, Fare/Routing Rules:
Seat Maps: AC Seat Maps are available via the [Amadeus Text] & [Amadeus Enhanced] options. Timetables: AC flights are supported. Operational Info/Flight Tracking:
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As can be seen from the chart above, I class is no longer displayed via the Worldspan: ITN/CWT method for domestic/transborder flights. I strongly suspect that this change was initiated by AC itself...
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AC Booking Classes
Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII
Several other threads have been started indicating that ITN does not seem to show (at least for North American routes) the I fare bucket any more? What is going on?
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Originally Posted by KVS
As can be seen from the chart above, I class is no longer displayed via the Worldspan: ITN/CWT method for domestic/transborder flights. I strongly suspect that this change was initiated by AC itself...
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Originally Posted by yyznomad
KVS, do you think it's possible that AC is making some changes to "I" and hence retracing it from particular (but not all) views? Any reason for these changes?
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For awhile we have been waiting for a hopefully more common situation where "I > C" and that this would occur once some "upgrades" or "enhancements" have been made to the system. Could this be one of those "changes"?
Also, do you think they would allow "I" to be redisplayed where they have been retracted recently, once these "hopeful" changes have been made? Of course, everything here is speculation (I admit) but many here would love to know what on earth is going on and the reasons behind it... |
Originally Posted by yyznomad
Also, do you think they would allow "I" to be redisplayed where they have been retracted recently, once these "hopeful" changes have been made?
Having said that, you can still see I class via Apollo: ITN/CWT, Amadeus: AUA/*A & Galileo methods, so let's hope that it stays that way... |
There would certainly be a lot less complaining about I<C, if we could never see I. Interestingly it does show on international so there would still be insentive to buy M class on those routes. It's almost like they have thought this out as part of their evil plan... :)
However, presumably travel agents need to see the information, so I don't think they can completely hide it. |
Originally Posted by yyzgigi
However, presumably travel agents need to see the information, so I don't think they can completely hide it.
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Quick question: I'm assuming that there is no way of searching for AC D and W inventory?
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Originally Posted by yyzgigi
There would certainly be a lot less complaining about I<C, if we could never see I.
Originally Posted by yyzgigi
Interestingly it does show on international so there would still be insentive to buy M class on those routes.
Originally Posted by yyzgigi
However, presumably travel agents need to see the information
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Originally Posted by inlanikai
I class is still available on ExpertFlyer.com.
P.S. Has EF started paying commissions? ;)
Originally Posted by ReluctantCanadian
Quick question: I'm assuming that there is no way of searching for AC D and W inventory?
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There have been various other KVS Availability threads started elsewhere and it appears this is more than just Aeroplan and of course borders on a commercial application. As I have done for ExpertFlyer.com as well, I am moving this thread to TravelBuzz! as well as consolidating other threads as well so that the availability of the topic and toll remains open for all members. The tool is not specific to frequent flyer miles and thus the decision to move to TravelBuzz! rather than MilesBuzz!. Those of you who use the tool will certainly be able to continue using this thread for updates and Q/A.
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if i have a ua rlo for two of us flying, but with two different last names, how do i use it with the pnr/itinerary retrieval? i can get galileo to work for a one-person rlo, but not for the ones where my wife and are on the same rlo and she uses her last name.
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Originally Posted by randyqx
if i have a ua rlo for two of us flying, but with two different last names, how do i use it with the pnr/itinerary retrieval? i can get galileo to work for a one-person rlo, but not for the ones where my wife and are on the same rlo and she uses her last name.
BTW, was the 2 PAX booking made directly with UA (and the "one-person rlo" booking made via some other source, e.g. a TA)? |
Originally Posted by KVS
was the 2 PAX booking made directly with UA (and the "one-person rlo" booking made via some other source, e.g. a TA)?
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I'm new to the KVS tool and am trying to use it to search for FF award tickets.
I looked at this thread: booking codes, but I don't see the X or N booking codes at all when searching the SFO-YUL route using KVS tool.... they don't even show up as X0 and N0. What am I missing? Thanks for your help! (PS: I only need to find out how to use this tool for *A carriers, because I have practically no miles on any other carrier). |
Award fare codes for BWIA?
Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but what are the award ticket buckets for BW (BWIA) ? Are they X for economy and O for biz/first, as they are in other airlines?
Here is what I see for a sample flight. I'm using v.1.4.3.L. (Codes in question are highlighted in green. You may need to scroll right in the code box.) Am I right to be looking at X and O classes, or am I off base? Thanks in advance. [KVS Availability Tool - Worldspan: ITN/CWT] Code:
JFK New York John F Kennedy Int'l NY US [KJFK]Code:
JFK New York John F Kennedy Int'l NY US [KJFK] |
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