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kthomas Mar 11, 2015 4:53 pm

Is it possible to look at actual fare class buckets on DL? (Am I missing something-- always a good chance...) (TIA) ?

KVS Mar 12, 2015 11:03 am


Originally Posted by kthomas (Post 24492728)
Is it possible to look at actual fare class buckets on DL? (Am I missing something-- always a good chance...) (TIA) ?

Regular Availability is currently accessible via the KVS Tool Mobile Companion.

UA-NYC Mar 17, 2015 11:16 am

I think it's been asked, but...
 
...can we PLEASE make "availability" the default on the Mobile Companion?

Especially since we all love and miss Availability from the regular Tool, and Timetable is still available on it.

KVS, please let us know what you think, thanks.

KVS Mar 18, 2015 8:53 am


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 24233763)
KVS can I trouble you with one minor wish - now that Availability's back up, can you make that the default option instead of Timetable? Small inconvenience but much appreciated if you can do it!


Originally Posted by lewinr (Post 24234742)
+1


Originally Posted by UA-NYC (Post 24521019)
...can we PLEASE make "availability" the default on the Mobile Companion?

Especially since we all love and miss Availability from the regular Tool, and Timetable is still available on it.

KVS, please let us know what you think, thanks.

[Availability] is now the default function in the KVS Tool Mobile Companion.

IMH Mar 18, 2015 9:38 am


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 24526236)
[Availability] is now the default function in the KVS Tool Mobile Companion.

... but remains a defunct function, [absent] from the core product, the so-called 'availability' tool for Windows.

For how much longer?

vbroucek Mar 19, 2015 2:41 am


Originally Posted by IMH (Post 24526516)
... but remains a defunct function, [absent] from the core product, the so-called 'availability' tool for Windows.

For how much longer?

Try "forever" or "never again"...:p

KVS Mar 19, 2015 9:02 am


Originally Posted by IMH (Post 24526516)
For how much longer?

Until further notice.

Xyzzy Mar 24, 2015 6:47 am


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 24532200)
Until further notice.

...until an;)ther source of data that can be sold (but not paid for) can be located.

delanotre Apr 6, 2015 5:37 am

MCT
 
Are MCT, for airports and companies, officials ? Thanks

cmn.jcs Apr 6, 2015 7:18 am


Originally Posted by delanotre (Post 24623172)
Are MCT, for airports and companies, officials ? Thanks

Official in what sense?

delanotre Apr 6, 2015 9:28 am


Originally Posted by cmn.jcs (Post 24623463)
Official in what sense?

My question is for KVS.
Where is found this precise information, different of the standard one?

KVS Apr 6, 2015 1:16 pm


Originally Posted by delanotre (Post 24623172)
Are MCT, for airports and companies, officials ? Thanks


Originally Posted by delanotre (Post 24624025)
My question is for KVS.
Where is found this precise information, different of the standard one?

Airlines can create exceptions to the airport standard MCTs.
In your case, AF had filed so many exceptions for its flights at CDG that is causing the display limits to be exceeded.

UA-NYC Apr 11, 2015 7:37 am

What's going on w/the ANA data source?
 
Not getting any info - just a Data Source Error for ANA.

Have the updated version.

mh3265a Apr 11, 2015 7:53 am


Originally Posted by UA-NYC (Post 24650105)
Not getting any info - just a Data Source Error for ANA.

Have the updated version.

Getting the same error. Downloaded the updated version of KVS from 7 April but still getting the error message. Let's hope ANA hasn't jumped on the KVS hate bandwagon

IMH Apr 11, 2015 8:33 am


Originally Posted by UA-NYC (Post 24650105)
Not getting any info - just a Data Source Error for ANA.


Originally Posted by mh3265a (Post 24650159)
Getting the same error.

It would be wrong to blame KVS for [Everything]. Lots of changes at ANA this month (including new award charts taking effect tomorrow) and several periods of planned system maintenance:

https://www.ana.co.jp/eng/sys/main.htm

mh3265a Apr 11, 2015 8:34 am


Originally Posted by IMH (Post 24650270)
It would be wrong to blame KVS for [Everything]. Lots of changes at ANA this month (including new award charts taking effect tomorrow) and several periods of planned system maintenance:

https://www.ana.co.jp/eng/sys/main.htm

You might want to read our posts closer. We're not blaming KVS. We are getting errors and wondering if there is a fix or is it with ANA. We're just pointing out that there is a problem.

IMH Apr 11, 2015 8:45 am


Originally Posted by mh3265a (Post 24650274)
We are getting errors and [...] pointing out that there is a problem.

There is almost certainly not a problem. ANA is performing planned maintenance. That's what my post was intended to communicate. Sorry if my tongue-in-cheek phrasing was too subtle for this particular corner of FT.

KVS Apr 11, 2015 9:59 am


Originally Posted by UA-NYC (Post 24650105)
Not getting any info - just a Data Source Error for ANA.

Have the updated version.


Originally Posted by mh3265a (Post 24650159)
Getting the same error. Downloaded the updated version of KVS from 7 April but still getting the error message.

The [Awards/StarAlliance] Engine is currently undergoing its scheduled maintenance until 07:00 GMT on 12 Apr 2015.

Please use the [Awards/AC-StarAlliance] Method during this period.

IMH Apr 11, 2015 3:42 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 24650529)
The [Awards/StarAlliance] Engine is currently undergoing its scheduled maintenance [...]

:confused: What "engine" would that be if not the ANA website? It's more straightforward (and easier to understand) to simply say that ANA is implementing some major changes this weekend, including moving its reservations system to Amadeus, and isn't accessible either direct or via the KVS app.

LondonElite Apr 11, 2015 3:48 pm


Originally Posted by IMH (Post 24651636)
:confused: What "engine" would that be if not the ANA website? It's more straightforward (and easier to understand) to simply say that ANA is implementing some major changes this weekend, including moving its reservations system to Amadeus, and isn't accessible either direct or via the KVS app.

You mean this?

https://www.ana.co.jp/topics/notice150312/index_e.html

Plasticus Apr 11, 2015 8:02 pm

The award search engine is back up, but a new one with very limited functionality compared to the old system. Will be interesting to see if this is there to stay. Hope their back end starnet reliability doesn't change.

I'm sure this is going to need a whole redo of the KVS star alliance search function. Don't see anymore 7 day search function either.

Hope this is a temporary interface.

UA-NYC Apr 12, 2015 9:48 am

Good analysis by Matthew on the new site:

http://upgrd.com/matthew/how-to-sear...a-website.html

Wonder if we've lost our good / quick / easy way to use NH to search...

KVS Apr 13, 2015 9:42 am

[Awards/StarAlliance] Method Update
 
The transition of the [Awards/StarAlliance] Method to the new ANA Engine has now been completed and KVS Tool V7.7.7 is available for download on the KVS Tool Homepage.

UA-NYC Apr 14, 2015 6:25 am

Results are now very wonky (and tougher to read) - seeing phantom biz availability on a bunch of flights not replicated in UA/AC searches.

KVS assuming you know about this - if not I will post some examples.

KVS Apr 14, 2015 12:05 pm


Originally Posted by UA-NYC (Post 24662783)
Results are now very wonky (and tougher to read) - seeing phantom biz availability on a bunch of flights not replicated in UA/AC searches.

KVS assuming you know about this - if not I will post some examples.

We are aware of certain data accuracy issues with the new ANA Engine.

If you believe that there is an issue with the KVS Tool itself, please do provide specific search and flight details.

Otherwise, you may wish to use the [Awards/AC-StarAlliance] Method (or one of the airline-specific Methods).

jhurley Apr 14, 2015 10:10 pm

I've been searching the threads for KVS one way award info but cannot locate-sorry if it's in here somewhere. Looking 329-330 days out for MIA-ANU and not seeing availability but seeing on AA. Do I need to turn off round trip/turn on one way? If so, how?

KVS Apr 14, 2015 11:29 pm


Originally Posted by jhurley (Post 24667019)
I've been searching the threads for KVS one way award info but cannot locate-sorry if it's in here somewhere. Looking 329-330 days out for MIA-ANU and not seeing availability but seeing on AA. Do I need to turn off round trip/turn on one way? If so, how?

What's the flight #/date?

jhurley Apr 15, 2015 1:37 pm

What's the flight #, date?
 
look at 3/10/16, flight#2405, AA or 3/11/16, flight#2405 AA. They show up on AA but not at MileSAAver. Not sure if I can put a hold on, then reserve 2 days later when MileSAAver becomes available.

KVS Apr 16, 2015 4:32 am


Originally Posted by jhurley (Post 24670205)
look at 3/10/16, flight#2405, AA or 3/11/16, flight#2405 AA.

There is currently no C Award Availability on those flights:

[KVS Tool 7.7.7/Diamond - Awards/JL-OneWorld/US]
Code:

MIA  Miami Intl FL US [KMIA]
ANU  Antigua VC Bird Intl AG [TAPA]
THU  10 Mar 2016

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Award Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------------
AA        2405    MIA  09:48    ANU  14:10    738  0  CS0  YS4
AA        914    MIA  21:00    EWR  23:57    738  0  CS/  YS0
 -> AA    978    JFK  07:30 +1  ANU  12:44 +1  738  0  CS0  YS4
AA        1128    MIA  21:01    JFK  00:01 +1  738  0  CS/  YS0
 -> AA    978    JFK  07:30 +1  ANU  12:44 +1  738  0  CS0  YS4


Originally Posted by jhurley (Post 24670205)
They show up on AA but not at MileSAAver.

AAnytime redemptions use Regular Availability, which can be accessed via the KVS Tool Mobile Companion.

Please consult the KVS Tool User Guide:

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AA
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AwardTypes

sbedelman Apr 16, 2015 11:00 pm

AS on KVS
 
I'm brand new to KVS and trying to reconcile what I'm seeing there with what I see on AS's web site.

For Dec 27 SAT to SEA AS is showing award seats in low coach, refundable coach and refundable first. There is also one U upgrade available.

When I check KVS is show FA+, CS/, WS/ and YS+.

So KVS is showing two buckets with availability vs AS showing three and the U upgrade space isn't showing on KVS.

Can someone explain how the codes on KVS map to the buckets AS has? And why isn't KVS showing the U upgrade space?

Newbie problem.

wheresmybagba Apr 16, 2015 11:32 pm


Originally Posted by sbedelman (Post 24677580)
When I check KVS is show FA+, CS/, WS/ and YS+.

Which method are you using?

KVS Apr 17, 2015 12:15 am


Originally Posted by sbedelman (Post 24677580)
I'm brand new to KVS and trying to reconcile what I'm seeing there with what I see on AS's web site.

For Dec 27 SAT to SEA AS is showing award seats in low coach, refundable coach and refundable first. There is also one U upgrade available.

When I check KVS is show FA+, CS/, WS/ and YS+.

So KVS is showing two buckets with availability vs AS showing three and the U upgrade space isn't showing on KVS.

Can someone explain how the codes on KVS map to the buckets AS has? And why isn't KVS showing the U upgrade space?

Newbie problem.

YS+ implies YA+, so it does not need to be shown.

AS Upgrade (U) Class is a part of Regular Availability, which can be accessed via the KVS Tool Mobile Companion.

Please consult the AS section of the KVS Tool User Guide for complete details:

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AS

sbedelman Apr 17, 2015 1:41 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 24677748)
YS+ implies YA+, so it does not need to be shown.

AS Upgrade (U) Class is a part of Regular Availability, which can be accessed via the KVS Tool Mobile Companion.

Please consult the AS section of the KVS Tool User Guide for complete details:

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AS

Thank you of clearing that up.

I'm running the Mobility Companion now and its showing U0 for SAT-SEA on AS657 but the AS web site is showing 1 space in U class. I also confirmed this is correct by calling AS reservation.

Any idea why the discrepancy?

sbedelman Apr 17, 2015 1:56 pm


Originally Posted by sbedelman (Post 24680770)
Thank you of clearing that up.

I'm running the Mobility Companion now and its showing U0 for SAT-SEA on AS657 but the AS web site is showing 1 space in U class. I also confirmed this is correct by calling AS reservation.

Any idea why the discrepancy?

Well this is getting strange. I hit the button again and U came up U1. So I hit it again and it went back to 0, a third time and it stayed at 0, a forth time and it came back as 1.

Has anyone else ever experienced this?

KVS Apr 17, 2015 2:20 pm


Originally Posted by sbedelman (Post 24680770)
Thank you of clearing that up.

I'm running the Mobility Companion now and its showing U0 for SAT-SEA on AS657 but the AS web site is showing 1 space in U class. I also confirmed this is correct by calling AS reservation.

Any idea why the discrepancy?

You need to specify the Airline Code when searching for AS U Class Availability via the KVS Tool Mobile Companion.

vbroucek Apr 17, 2015 4:07 pm


Originally Posted by sbedelman (Post 24680770)
Thank you of clearing that up.

I'm running the Mobility Companion now and its showing U0 for SAT-SEA on AS657 but the AS web site is showing 1 space in U class. I also confirmed this is correct by calling AS reservation.

Any idea why the discrepancy?


Originally Posted by sbedelman (Post 24680847)
Well this is getting strange. I hit the button again and U came up U1. So I hit it again and it went back to 0, a third time and it stayed at 0, a forth time and it came back as 1.

Has anyone else ever experienced this?

That's the ad infinitum discussed issue of obscured POS that the mobile companion uses. Seems that it changes POS even between searches...

sbedelman Apr 17, 2015 6:17 pm


Originally Posted by vbroucek (Post 24681454)
That's the ad infinitum discussed issue of obscured POS that the mobile companion uses. Seems that it changes POS even between searches...

Wow. One really does need to know the ins and outs to get things to work. Thanks.

Now I'm getting weird error messages when I attempt to search via ANA or LH.

ANA give a "Data Source Error(L)" and tells me the reason is unclear and I should go look at their website but I didn't see anything there regarding what this is.

LH immediately returns "Error Requesting Data", Error 12169, SSL certificate is invalid and suggests I go to their site to troubleshoot. Not very informative.

I have no trouble logging on to either ANA or M&M with my login information.

I hate to keep asking obvious question but this stuff isn't obvious, at least to me.

Seems like a great program but not particularly user friendly.

KVS Apr 18, 2015 11:24 am


Originally Posted by sbedelman (Post 24681931)
Wow. One really does need to know the ins and outs to get things to work. Thanks.

Now I'm getting weird error messages when I attempt to search via ANA or LH.

ANA give a "Data Source Error(L)" and tells me the reason is unclear and I should go look at their website but I didn't see anything there regarding what this is.

LH immediately returns "Error Requesting Data", Error 12169, SSL certificate is invalid and suggests I go to their site to troubleshoot. Not very informative.

I have no trouble logging on to either ANA or M&M with my login information.

I hate to keep asking obvious question but this stuff isn't obvious, at least to me.

Seems like a great program but not particularly user friendly.

These errors are caused by the bugs in the CrossOver Mac software and can be avoided by using Parallels Desktop / VMWare Fusion / VirtualBox / Apple Boot Camp instead.

Please forward us the screenshots (via E-Mail) so we can see if there is a possible work-around.

sbedelman Apr 18, 2015 10:16 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 24684449)
These errors are caused by the bugs in the CrossOver Mac software and can be avoided by using Parallels Desktop / VMWare Fusion / VirtualBox / Apple Boot Camp instead.

Please forward us the screenshots (via E-Mail) so we can see if there is a possible work-around.

Are you saying that no one is able to use ANA and M&M with Crossover?

KVS Apr 19, 2015 11:19 am


Originally Posted by sbedelman (Post 24686350)
Are you saying that no one is able to use ANA and M&M with Crossover?

Until CrossOver resolves their bug, the [Awards/StarAlliance] Method will remain inaccessible for Mac Users, who use CrossOver -- this is noted in the KVS Tool User Guide. However, [Awards/AC-StarAlliance] can be used instead.

We had no reports of any issues with the [Awards/M&M] Method, so there must be something wrong with your particular installation -- we will be following-up with your directly regarding that.


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