FlyerTalk Forums

FlyerTalk Forums (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/index.php)
-   Travel Tools (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/travel-tools-701/)
-   -   KVS Availability Tool (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/travel-tools/1592702-kvs-availability-tool.html)

TWA884 Aug 1, 2015 9:42 am

Moderator's note:
Following consultations and careful deliberations, we are going to reopen this thread on a trial basis.

Please keep in mind that the primary purpose of this forum is to benefit the entire FlyerTalk community; this is not a private KVS customer support venue.

In addition to the FlyerTalk Rules and Internet Brands Terms and Conditions of Use, the following guidelines will be enforced in this thread:
  • Self-promotion and laudatory messages without examples will be deleted.
  • Non-repetitive detailed examples of good and poor experiences are welcome.
  • Comments and questions and answers about the use of the tools are encouraged.
  • Discussions of the technical aspects of the tool - including how it works and whether it is an internet browser or not - are permitted.
  • Discussion of the business model and practices of KVS and the legitimacy of the methods used to source its data will be permitted when relevant.
There will be a zero-tolerance policy for violating these guidelines. Non-complying messages will be summarily deleted without notice. Repeat offenders will lose posting privileges.

Thank you for understanding and your future cooperation.

TWA884,
Moderator

flightline Aug 1, 2015 10:46 am

The Award/DL-SkyTeam method has three options under the "Airline(s)" field. They are:

1. *S (Sch)
2. ** (Pri)
3. DL (Pri)

Selecting either of the (Pri) options allows one to select "Economy" in the "Cabin(s)" field.

What do these three options do?

Also, what does the "Max Results" check box do? Wouldn't I always want the "max" results?


Originally Posted by flightline (Post 25206188)
The Award/DL-SkyTeam method has three options under the "Airline(s)" field. They are:

1. *S (Sch)
2. ** (Pri)
3. DL (Pri)

Selecting either of the (Pri) options allows one to select "Economy" in the "Cabin(s)" field.

What do these three options do?

One data point...

I notice that only the second option (that is, the ** (Pri) option) shows certain itineraries containing Alaska Airlines segments.

prat Aug 1, 2015 1:46 pm

Would appreciate ..

Requesting seat availability info for the following flight

9W 0078
DEL to HKG
9TH AUG DEPARTURE

dt88 Aug 1, 2015 11:20 pm

KVS tool asks me to update to Ver7.8.5 but after downloading countless times it keeps on installing as Ver7.7.5.

Without updating I am unable to use the tool. I have tried both manual and automatic install for Crossover.

Does anyone know how to resolve this? I am using Mac btw.

KVS Aug 2, 2015 6:13 pm


Originally Posted by flightline (Post 25206188)
The Award/DL-SkyTeam method has three options under the "Airline(s)" field. They are:

1. *S (Sch)
2. ** (Pri)
3. DL (Pri)

Selecting either of the (Pri) options allows one to select "Economy" in the "Cabin(s)" field.

What do these three options do?

The [Sch] option searches by Schedule and [Pri] options search by Price in DL SM (based on the Cabin Class preference).


Originally Posted by flightline (Post 25206188)
Also, what does the "Max Results" check box do? Wouldn't I always want the "max" results?

The [Max] option slightly increases the search time.


Originally Posted by dt88 (Post 25208373)
KVS tool asks me to update to Ver7.8.5 but after downloading countless times it keeps on installing as Ver7.7.5.

Without updating I am unable to use the tool. I have tried both manual and automatic install for Crossover.

Does anyone know how to resolve this? I am using Mac btw.

It is an issue with CrossOver Mac.

Please download the KVS Tool Setup using a web browser and then follow the Manual CrossOver Mac installation procedure.

Smiley90 Aug 2, 2015 10:06 pm


Originally Posted by prat (Post 25206826)
Would appreciate ..

Requesting seat availability info for the following flight

9W 0078
DEL to HKG
9TH AUG DEPARTURE

C9 J7 Z7 I7 P7 Y9 M9 T9 U7 N7 L7 Q7 S7 K7 H7 VC O0 WC B0

so, lots

rj123456 Aug 3, 2015 1:28 am

AS searches broken on KVSTool?
 
I can't get AS award searches to work. Got an error message to upgrade to 7.8.5, did that, still get the error message:

"...requested function unavailable...or may require a newer version".

As of today 7.8.5 is the latest version and the website is not particularly helpful.

KVS Aug 3, 2015 7:56 am


Originally Posted by rj123456 (Post 25212889)
I can't get AS award searches to work. Got an error message to upgrade to 7.8.5, did that, still get the error message:

"...requested function unavailable...or may require a newer version".

As of today 7.8.5 is the latest version and the website is not particularly helpful.

Please download the KVS Tool V7.8.6 Update.

nux Aug 5, 2015 8:07 am


Originally Posted by prat (Post 25206826)
Would appreciate ..

Requesting seat availability info for the following flight

9W 0078
DEL to HKG
9TH AUG DEPARTURE


Originally Posted by Smiley90 (Post 25212455)
C9 J7 Z7 I7 P7 Y9 M9 T9 U7 N7 L7 Q7 S7 K7 H7 VC O0 WC B0

so, lots

What POS (Point Of Sale) for availability is used?

rj123456 Aug 6, 2015 12:30 am

Now BA searches appear to be broken as it asks for a Capcha "which of images is pizza" that cannot be passed through.

Smiley90 Aug 6, 2015 1:57 am


Originally Posted by rj123456 (Post 25228651)
Now BA searches appear to be broken as it asks for a Capcha "which of images is pizza" that cannot be passed through.

Same actually I think happens to awardwallet updates... real irritating

vbroucek Aug 6, 2015 2:53 am


Originally Posted by rj123456 (Post 25228651)
Now BA searches appear to be broken as it asks for a Capcha "which of images is pizza" that cannot be passed through.


Originally Posted by Smiley90 (Post 25228839)
Same actually I think happens to awardwallet updates... real irritating

That's how more and more websites (and their legal owners) protect their information against automated data harvesting and screen scrubbers/grabbers nowadays. We can expect more and more sites starting to do so as they are protecting their valuable information from unscrupulous business practices of some other "business operators" and paid for tools they provide.

KVS Aug 6, 2015 6:18 am


Originally Posted by rj123456 (Post 25228651)
Now BA searches appear to be broken as it asks for a Capcha "which of images is pizza" that cannot be passed through.

The [Awards/BA-OneWorld] Method continues to function normally, but is subject to the velocity limits of that Engine.

LondonElite Aug 6, 2015 6:27 am


Originally Posted by nux (Post 25224399)
What POS (Point Of Sale) for availability is used?

Wasn't the answer last time that this is 'dynamic'? (And yes, I also don't know what that really means.) ;)

golfmad Aug 6, 2015 6:45 am


Originally Posted by nux (Post 25224399)
What POS (Point Of Sale) for availability is used?


Originally Posted by LondonElite (Post 25229658)
Wasn't the answer last time that this is 'dynamic'? (And yes, I also don't know what that really means.) ;)

Last time I checked it wasn't possible to determine which POS is used which is why I switched from KVS to EF. If this changes I would certainly consider switching back to KVS.

r0m8470 Aug 18, 2015 1:58 pm

Error using AC/*A method
 
I keep getting errors:

Error 12029, when using AC method to search *A award space. I am not getting errors when using SkyTeam and OneWorld award search.

Any idea why? The AC user name provided is current.

Thank you.

KVS Aug 18, 2015 2:13 pm


Originally Posted by r0m8470 (Post 25290007)
I keep getting errors:

Error 12029, when using AC method to search *A award space. I am not getting errors when using SkyTeam and OneWorld award search.

Any idea why?

The [Awards/AC-StarAlliance] Method continues to function normally.

Please follow the local system troubleshooting steps at http://Errors.KVSTool.com/

r0m8470 Aug 18, 2015 3:06 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 25290077)
The [Awards/AC-StarAlliance] Method continues to function normally.

Please follow the local system troubleshooting steps at http://Errors.KVSTool.com/

Still getting error.

It says:

‘Error Requesting Data [I-1]:

Error 12029: Cannont connect
The attempt to connect to the server failed.
Connecting (41s)

Error 9002: No Data Received
Connecting

SkyTeam and OneWorld searches are ok.

KVS Aug 18, 2015 3:15 pm


Originally Posted by r0m8470 (Post 25290346)
Still getting error.

It says:

‘Error Requesting Data [I-1]:

Error 12029: Cannont connect
The attempt to connect to the server failed.
Connecting (41s)

Error 9002: No Data Received
Connecting

SkyTeam and OneWorld searches are ok.

Please contact us directly, including the details of the specific troubleshooting step(s) you have followed.

r0m8470 Aug 19, 2015 12:56 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 25290393)
Please contact us directly, including the details of the specific troubleshooting step(s) you have followed.

I found what the error is - my company network blocked the traffic.

Now I have another issue - the BA search method stating an error about CAPTCHA method. I did login to my BA account, and it did have another CAPTCHA verification. I restarted KVStool and still getting the same error. Any idea why?

paulwuk Aug 19, 2015 5:07 pm


Originally Posted by r0m8470 (Post 25295137)
I found what the error is - my company network blocked the traffic.

Now I have another issue - the BA search method stating an error about CAPTCHA method. I did login to my BA account, and it did have another CAPTCHA verification. I restarted KVStool and still getting the same error. Any idea why?

The war between websites trying to block people breaking the terms and conditions (specifically the "no robots" one) and the people who break those terms.

You're using a method of accessing the Ba site that BA do not approve. You're doing it surreptitiously by using a scraping tool that pretends to be something it's not.

Interesting that your company blocked access to air Canada. I wonder if AC complained about the traffic coming from your network. That would be a new twist - use KVS, break terms and conditions, put your miles at risk, and now risk your job in the process!

golfmad Aug 19, 2015 6:21 pm


Originally Posted by paulwuk (Post 25296428)
That would be a new twist - use KVS, break terms and conditions, put your miles at risk, and now risk your job in the process!

A tad dramatic?

paulwuk Aug 19, 2015 11:49 pm


Originally Posted by golfmad (Post 25296670)
A tad dramatic?

Most firms will have policies forbidding the use of KVS on company assets. Now they not enforce these policies all the time, but it's a handy tool of they want to dismiss you for some other reason.

Jim055 Aug 20, 2015 7:13 pm


Originally Posted by golfmad (Post 25296670)
A tad dramatic?

^^^^^

vbroucek Aug 20, 2015 7:15 pm


Originally Posted by paulwuk (Post 25297706)
Most firms will have policies forbidding the use of KVS on company assets. Now they not enforce these policies all the time, but it's a handy tool of they want to dismiss you for some other reason.

I dare to rephrase you to "Most firms will have policies forbidding the use of unauthorised software on company assets." To single out KVS is totally unfair and I would suggest that most firms (contrary to your suggestion) are not even aware of its existence...

KVS Aug 20, 2015 10:45 pm


Originally Posted by r0m8470 (Post 25295137)
I found what the error is - my company network blocked the traffic.

Now I have another issue - the BA search method stating an error about CAPTCHA method. I did login to my BA account, and it did have another CAPTCHA verification. I restarted KVStool and still getting the same error. Any idea why?

Please try solving the CAPTCHA by keeping the KVS Tool open and logging-in using Internet Explorer.

If the issue persists, please use one of the alternative OneWorld Award Methods in the KVS Tool.

aviators99 Aug 25, 2015 7:39 am

Trying to search StarAlliance-AC and getting 'DataSource Error: [I-3]: "Login"'

KVS Aug 25, 2015 11:11 am


Originally Posted by aviators99 (Post 25324831)
Trying to search StarAlliance-AC and getting 'DataSource Error: [I-3]: "Login"'

The [Awards/AC-StarAlliance] Engine was down earlier on today.

Please try again now and contact us directly if the issue persists.

Smiley90 Aug 25, 2015 1:55 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 25325989)
The [Awards/AC-StarAlliance] Engine was down earlier on today.

Please try again now and contact us directly if the issue persists.

I have a different issue with AC-StarAlliance search. I try searching by calendar and anytime between 1-3 days in I get:

Datasource Error [RW]:

Engine Error [EP].


Sounds familiar? Any resolution? it stops my search every time and makes calendar search rather useless...

KVS Aug 25, 2015 2:01 pm


Originally Posted by Smiley90 (Post 25326828)
I have a different issue with AC-StarAlliance search. I try searching by calendar and anytime between 1-3 days in I get:

Datasource Error [RW]:

Engine Error [EP].

Sounds familiar? Any resolution? it stops my search every time and makes calendar search rather useless...

The [Awards/AC-StarAlliance] Method continues to function normally.

Please contact us directly, including specific search examples.

Viajero Millero Aug 26, 2015 7:33 pm

Recently became a Mac user.

Just to have this clear, I will need to have separate memberships to KVS and Crossover in order to have it run on OS X?

KVS Aug 27, 2015 12:38 pm


Originally Posted by Viajero Millero (Post 25333359)
Recently became a Mac user.

Just to have this clear, I will need to have separate memberships to KVS and Crossover in order to have it run on OS X?

CrossOver Mac does have a small one-time cost.

There are also free alternatives available -- please consult the Mac section of the KVS Tool User Guide for more info:

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Mac

KRainesalo Aug 27, 2015 12:52 pm

KVS Tool website not available??
 
Can't access the KVS Tool website, nor the KVS Tool Mobile Companion. Anyone know what's up?

Working again. Oh well.

KVS Aug 27, 2015 2:19 pm


Originally Posted by KRainesalo (Post 25337422)
Working again. Oh well.

One of our hosting providers was experiencing a brief server outage, which was affecting some of the web-based functionality. All systems are now running normally.

chutchins Aug 28, 2015 11:40 am

I'm getting the following error every time I use the AC method. Was working fine last night.

Datasource Error [I-3]:
"Login"

KVS Aug 28, 2015 1:26 pm


Originally Posted by chutchins (Post 25342878)
I'm getting the following error every time I use the AC method. Was working fine last night.

The [Awards/AC-StarAlliance] Engine had just been updated.

Please download KVS Tool V7.8.8 and try again.

onlysuites Aug 29, 2015 8:50 am

Is there anyway to use the KVS tool on a mac without paying the subscription charges for Crossover?

KVS Aug 29, 2015 9:29 am


Originally Posted by onlysuites (Post 25346658)
Is there anyway to use the KVS tool on a mac without paying the subscription charges for Crossover?

Yes, there is -- please consult the Mac section of the KVS Tool User Guide for details:

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Mac

Also, CrossOver Mac does not require a subscription and can be done as a 1-time purchase using the "CrossOver Mac - 1 Month" option.

Xyzzy Aug 29, 2015 9:36 am


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 25346800)
Yes, there is -- please consult the Mac section of the KVS Tool User Guide for details:

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Mac

Also, CrossOver Mac does not require a subscription and can be done as a 1-time purchase using the "CrossOver Mac - 1 Month" option.

So you're now actually admitting that you are selling something vs. taking 'd:rolleyes:nations'? I guess that's a slight improvement...

onlysuites Aug 29, 2015 9:41 am


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 25346800)
Yes, there is -- please consult the Mac section of the KVS Tool User Guide for details:

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Mac

Also, CrossOver Mac does not require a subscription and can be done as a 1-time purchase using the "CrossOver Mac - 1 Month" option.

Found the 1 month option. But if I just buy the 1 month licence what about future updates? So in reality I have to pay £38 a year or am I missing something?


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 2:04 pm.


This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.