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KVS Aug 30, 2016 8:28 am


Originally Posted by aradisc (Post 27131139)
Any chance of ever implementing the BA reCAPTCHA or is that method totally dead now?

We are continuing to monitor the situation with the [Awards/BA-OneWorld] Engine and will implement the necessary adjustments as soon as it becomes technically possible.

In the meantime, please use one of the other OneWorld Methods ([Awards/QF-OneWorld], [Awards/JL-OneWorld], [Awards/CX-OneWorld]), which provide an equivalent functionality.

vbroucek Aug 31, 2016 3:34 am

ROFL!!!

JHIN Aug 31, 2016 12:19 pm

Issues Today?
 
Anyone else having issues today with the KVS Tool?

I'm getting the following Pop up

Data Source Error (L):

"Cheap Direct Flights to Australia, New Zealand & More|Qantas"

If for some reason(s) for the above error message are unclear, please visit www.KVSTool.com to review the latest system status announcements.

Well in doing so I didn't see any messages and I'm running the latest updates already from them. Thx

KVS Aug 31, 2016 3:14 pm


Originally Posted by JHIN (Post 27146622)
Anyone else having issues today with the KVS Tool?

I'm getting the following Pop up

Data Source Error (L):

This issue has now been resolved in KVS Tool V8.1.8


Originally Posted by JHIN (Post 27146622)
Well in doing so I didn't see any messages and I'm running the latest updates already from them. Thx

As always, technical issues should be reported via the official KVS Tool Homepage (or e-mail).

JHIN Aug 31, 2016 8:24 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 27147695)
This issue has now been resolved in KVS Tool V8.1.8



As always, technical issues should be reported via the official KVS Tool Homepage (or e-mail).

My issues remain even with the 8.1.8 update FYI.

JHIN Sep 1, 2016 12:43 am


Originally Posted by JHIN (Post 27148766)
My issues remain even with the 8.1.8 update FYI.

8.1.9 seems to have fixed the issues I was having for One World searches ^ Thx

nux Sep 1, 2016 7:35 am


Originally Posted by aradisc (Post 27131139)
Any chance of ever implementing the BA reCAPTCHA or is that method totally dead now? Doesn't seem to be worth renewing without it.


Originally Posted by JHIN (Post 27149491)
8.1.9 seems to have fixed the issues I was having for One World searches ^ Thx

Just shows that you are at the mercy of the KVS tool support person(s) to figure out a new way to screen scrape the data whenever the (free) source data/websites are changed.

KVS Sep 3, 2016 11:36 am


Originally Posted by JHIN (Post 27149491)
8.1.9 seems to have fixed the issues I was having for One World searches ^ Thx

You're welcome!


Originally Posted by aradisc (Post 27131139)
Any chance of ever implementing the BA reCAPTCHA or is that method totally dead now?

Update: You can now RSVP for the [Awards/BA-OneWorld] Method Update Beta via the KVS Tool Homepage.

LH757 Sep 3, 2016 6:44 pm

:mad:

Originally Posted by jerry_greece (Post 24255105)
What is this numbering thingie in mobile-companion? Is there a limit on queries?

Code:

324/400 Queries

Is this a weekly or a monthly limit? 400 is a merge number!

TWA884 Sep 3, 2016 7:26 pm


Originally Posted by LH757 (Post 27162050)
:mad:

Is this a weekly or a monthly limit? 400 is a merge number!

Answered in post number 453:

Originally Posted by KVS (Post 25150968)

Originally Posted by geclub1 (Post 25150938)
KVS Tool has a 400 queries limit, it seems. But I cannot find out whether that's a daily, weekly, or monthly limit and when it gets reset.
Anybody has any insights?

Mobile Companion usage limits are set on a calendar monthly basis.


ioki Sep 9, 2016 7:01 am

dns name resolution issue
 
www.kvstool.com is an unresolvable name.

the domain of kvstool.com is fine, but www.kvstool.com returns SERVFAIL, has the hosting service gone dark?

KVS Sep 9, 2016 12:00 pm


Originally Posted by ioki (Post 27187364)
the domain of kvstool.com is fine, but www.kvstool.com returns SERVFAIL

One of our hosting providers had experienced a server outage earlier on today, which was affecting access to the KVS Tool Homepage.

The issue has now been resolved.

frb98mf Sep 24, 2016 8:36 am

Seems like I have all the luck... bumping my own thread of two years ago having googled "KVS Tool down"!

I can't get the mobile site, website or desktop tool to work today. Is there an outage and if planned, until when?

Thanks...

KVS Sep 24, 2016 1:37 pm


Originally Posted by frb98mf (Post 27256840)
Seems like I have all the luck... bumping my own thread of two years ago having googled "KVS Tool down"!

I can't get the mobile site, website or desktop tool to work today. Is there an outage and if planned, until when?

One of our hosting providers had experienced a server outage earlier on today, which was affecting access to the KVS Tool Homepage and Mobile Companion.

The issue has now been resolved.

nakataboi Sep 27, 2016 6:39 pm

Hmmm thought the temp registration code should be sent in real time. Been waiting a bit now for it and haven't received it yet. Nothing in the spam/junk folder either :[

*Resolved*

Cyba Sep 29, 2016 5:44 am

I'm getting the following error message:

Datasource error [R1]:

"Error 400--Bad Request"
Does anyone have any idea what this might be?

nux Sep 29, 2016 8:16 am


Originally Posted by Cyba (Post 27278854)
I'm getting the following error message:


Does anyone have any idea what this might be?

Probably the underlying website the KVS application is trying to scrape data from to perform that search has changed.

As KVS does not pay for data there is always a risk that the underlying websites it scrapes data from will change to make it not possible for KVS to use, so any of the advertised KVS features may stop working at any point.

KVS Sep 29, 2016 1:12 pm


Originally Posted by Cyba (Post 27278854)
I'm getting the following error message:

Does anyone have any idea what this might be?

This issue has now been resolved -- please download KVS Tool V8.2.3 and try again.

t1c Oct 26, 2016 7:15 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 27280877)
This issue has now been resolved -- please download KVS Tool V8.2.3 and try again.

Is version 8.2.3 stable and working?

vbroucek Oct 26, 2016 9:35 pm


Originally Posted by t1c (Post 27397664)
Is version 8.2.3 stable and working?

Yes, but only until another "method" gets broken by legal owners of data being scraped by KVS... :D:D:D

KVS Oct 26, 2016 10:06 pm


Originally Posted by t1c (Post 27397664)
Is version 8.2.3 stable and working?

Yes, of course.

As always, please consult the official KVS Tool Homepage for the most up-to-date information.

extremeromance Oct 31, 2016 12:03 am

I am trying to search for SQ award space for Suites on the Jfk-Fra route using the power search feature, however it keeps bringing me back results for standard award space when I am looking for saver award space, I must be missing a setting or something somewhere?

vbroucek Oct 31, 2016 1:43 am


Originally Posted by extremeromance (Post 27415100)
I am trying to search for SQ award space for Suites on the Jfk-Fra route using the power search feature, however it keeps bringing me back results for standard award space when I am looking for saver award space, I must be missing a setting or something somewhere?

No, you are not missing anything. You paid for dubious (at least) piece of software and that's what you get for your money...

oliver2002 Oct 31, 2016 2:10 am


Originally Posted by extremeromance (Post 27415100)
I am trying to search for SQ award space for Suites on the Jfk-Fra route using the power search feature, however it keeps bringing me back results for standard award space when I am looking for saver award space, I must be missing a setting or something somewhere?

The SQ KF interface is sufficient for the search?

KVS Oct 31, 2016 2:16 am


Originally Posted by extremeromance (Post 27415100)
I am trying to search for SQ award space for Suites on the Jfk-Fra route using the power search feature, however it keeps bringing me back results for standard award space when I am looking for saver award space, I must be missing a setting or something somewhere?

Welcome to the KVS Tool!

Please ensure that your [Filter] is set to reflect the desired Award Type(s) before starting the [Power Search].

extremeromance Oct 31, 2016 3:27 am


Originally Posted by oliver2002 (Post 27415366)
The SQ KF interface is sufficient for the search?

It is however its faster to do the search 30 days at a time without having to check it day by day

extremeromance Oct 31, 2016 3:33 am


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 27415384)
Welcome to the KVS Tool!

Please ensure that your [Filter] is set to reflect the desired Award Type(s) before starting the [Power Search].

I see what you mean however I can't seem to find the fare class for Sq suites to put into the filter so it gives me saver award space instead of standard.

extremeromance Oct 31, 2016 4:14 am


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 27415384)
Welcome to the KVS Tool!

Please ensure that your [Filter] is set to reflect the desired Award Type(s) before starting the [Power Search].

I think I might have figured it out, it looks like under the filters tab where it says " availability required in classes" and " display only classes " both need to be checked and fare class should be
set to FS on both of them correct?

KVS Oct 31, 2016 10:49 am


Originally Posted by extremeromance (Post 27415579)
It is however its faster to do the search 30 days at a time without having to check it day by day

Indeed.


Originally Posted by extremeromance (Post 27415694)
I think I might have figured it out, it looks like under the filters tab where it says " availability required in classes" and " display only classes " both need to be checked and fare class should be
set to FS on both of them correct?

You only need to set the [Availability Required In Class(es)] Filter to FS.

If using the [Awards/SQ] Method, you should also set the [Cabin(s)] option to First only in order to speed-up the Power Search.

st1575 Oct 31, 2016 2:38 pm

Problems with recent VirtualBox releases
 
I am not sure if others use Virtual Box, but the most recent versions seem to have bugs that may affect VMs used to run KVS. More specifically, I found that 5.1.8 and 5.0.28 both cause problems with Windows XP SP3 (e.g., network timeouts); for other versions of Windows, YMMV.

If this happens to you, you might want to downgrade back to 5.0.26, which seems to work fine for XP SP3 (and possibly others).

extremeromance Oct 31, 2016 8:56 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 27417170)
Indeed.



You only need to set the [Availability Required In Class(es)] Filter to FS.

If using the [Awards/SQ] Method, you should also set the [Cabin(s)] option to First only in order to speed-up the Power Search.

Thanks for all your assistance!

IAD1k Dec 14, 2016 9:49 pm

i'm having an issue with understanding the KVS tool. under the membership types, features summary view, it lists "upgrade availability search" for UA. ok, how is that possible? i thought UA blocked R display by other websites/tools? the examples say that codes for upgrades are O/FS and I/CS, which are the codes for awards, not upgrades. are these being used as surrogates? how is this possible?

KVS Dec 14, 2016 10:45 pm


Originally Posted by IAD1k (Post 27613912)
the examples say that codes for upgrades are O/FS and I/CS, which are the codes for awards, not upgrades.

Those refer to *A Upgrades (not R Class Upgrades).

IAD1k Dec 15, 2016 8:20 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 27614051)
Those refer to *A Upgrades (not R Class Upgrades).

then don't list UA on the upgrade availability page. 99.99% of people interested in UA upgrades are looking for R, not A Upgrades...:mad:

Xyzzy Dec 15, 2016 8:47 pm


Originally Posted by IAD1k (Post 27618921)
then don't list UA on the upgrade availability page. 99.99% of people interested in UA upgrades are looking for R, not A Upgrades...:mad:

Spot on -- Clearly KVS can't find a way to perform an unauthorized scrape of the R data. S;), it is not available. But why let that get in the way of advertising that it is possible to find UA upgrade space if one can find it for some obscure purpose. A negative answer might cut down on the amount of cash coming in. Shady answers from a shady business. Just SOP. Save your money, folks.

seawolf Jan 1, 2017 10:54 pm

So what's new with this tool/specialized web browser? I let my subscription lapse after the FAU GTC fisacoand have not kept up since the old thread was closed

oliver2002 Jan 2, 2017 1:00 am

Karsten Nohl recently stirred the pot uncovering a number of GDS security loopholes at the CCC conference last week. This also went to the press, albeit in the quiet pre/post Xmas phase. Amadeus closed a number of scrapable web channels as a result, which is obviously not good for people who don't pay for GDS access to feed their tools, erm browsers.

vbroucek Jan 2, 2017 1:05 am

Spot on @oliver2002!

Let's declare the 2017 the year of KVS Tool's death... It's long overdue...

BTW, most of what Karsten says is not new - Brian Krebs was raising similar issues two years ago https://krebsonsecurity.com/2015/10/...barcode-a-lot/

delanotre Jan 2, 2017 3:11 am

:td:
After 10 years, probably my last subscription due to "fare basis details" and "booking rules" unavailable since too more months. Google flights is more efficiency and free.

seawolf Jan 2, 2017 6:25 am

Thanks

I just looked at the KVS website. Seems like availability is only via their own webpage (e.g. no more asking you to create an account on a site you are not eligible for). No idea if KVS is sourcing data legitimately on their own page.

The core functionality now seems to be award availability (similar to award nexus)?


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