I am well aware of these discussions about KVS. But i fail to see how your reply is in any way relevant to the question asked. Or that my question warrants your response. Wherever the data may come from, these results that i'm reporting are somewhat bizarre so presumably the underlying databases are also faulty. Unless you're suggesting that KVS is modifying the results to mess with us?

But since you seem quite knowledgable on these matters, can you perhaps help me by pointing out alternative tools that allow easy timetable searches? Expertflyer, which I also subscribe to, for instance, is in my experience, highly inadequate... for timetable searches.

1. KVS doesn't edit the results you see what the tool manages to scrape. Proper GDS access shows your 3 examples without issues:
2. That needs to be updated in the 'tool' tables....

You have asked "Some legal connections don't seem to show up..." and I clearly answered - it is because KVS is stealing data where ever they manage at given time and they simply do not have source of such data. Simple and clear answer, sorry you do not like it.

And for the second question - again, thieves did not bother yet updating their tables... You are paying for lemon, get over it...

Not quite the case and I don't understand what your beef is here. Using the same KVS timetable function I can see the timetables for all of the sectors that i listed but only as separate queries. So i can see MAO-PTY and PTY-POS. But not MAO-POS. This has nothing to do with "stealing" or anything. It seems to me that this is some system limitation which i'm trying to understand.

Did you have any suggestions for alternative timetable searches? I'm genuinely keen to find some that are both user-friendly and reliable.

That supports what I (and also Oliver2002) said. KVS is scrapping tool, it does not build, calculate or edit anything. It displays whatever they manage to scape illegally from various engines. So they have source to scrape the sectors, but they don't have source to scrape full itinerary.
I am lucky enough to have access to proper GDS, so no, I do not have any advice in this regard,

This has EVERYTHING to do with stealing. The "limitation" is that the "vendor" you are paying, KVS, is stealing data and providing it -- without authorisation -- to you for fee. As others have demonstrated, with proper GDS access -- access that comes with a fee -- one can obtain what you are looking for. KVS does not seem to wish to pay for the data so KVS can n:ot provide it. Caveat emptor!

Indeed, these routings are not logical:
Specifically, LAD-DXB-LIS is almost 175% of the MPM.

Therefore, they would not be shown by the [Timetable] Engine automatically.

As always, you can force any routing of your choice by searching segment-by-segment.
Alternatively, the [Availability] Engine can be forced to construct such routings by specifying an airline preference:

https://i.imgur.com/ruUM0kll.png

KVS Tool already supports the DSS airport (as of its opening date in Dec 2017), however it may take some time for the various external Engines to be updated. Please use the [Availability] function until the [Timetable] Engine gets updated.

As always, please contact us via the official support channels (website or e-mail) if you have questions or require assistance regarding the KVS Tool.

accusations of theft and fraud are far-fetched and have no basis in law or reality... at worst (and this is open to some debate) KVS is just a tool which enables its users to violate the terms-of-service of some of the relevant websites.

let's please keep such hyped accusations and noise to a minimum before the mods need to come in and clean things up once again...

I'd say that at best if violates the T:eek:S. It is clearly scraping data in a manner that is totally inconsistent with the rules of the sources of that data. It is reselling that data. That is fraud. If you take a look at how the business behind this is concealed it becomes obvious that the owner clearly knows that. No legitimate business conceals itself like that.

KVS & KE
 

I have used KVS successfully for award availability for 3 RTWs, so I know a bit about it. Using an AF user for ST, I am searching for award availability for KE. I have found KE award availability as part of a multi-segment flight, but I can not find any award availability for any class from any US airport on many random dates during the next 3-6 months. What gives?

You may wish to post your question in the FB forum, as this appears to be a system connectivity issue between AF/KL and KE.

Would I have better luck with DL? (I hate to sign up for another FF program if I do not have to.) Thks.

Yes and you do not need to sign-up for any FFPs to use the other 2 SkyTeam Award search Methods in the KVS Tool.

When I use the Mobile Companion, I am now seeing a query lomit, for example, 310/400 queries. Never seen this before, is there really a limit on MC?

Please contact us via the official support channels (website or e-mail) if you have questions regarding your KVS Tool Membership.

Does that mean that vbroucek's answer to indo79's question is incorrect?

I can't see any fare basis info when I search for fares. Is there a current issue preventing this ?

The current [Fares] Engine does not provide Fare Basis info.

Please contact us via the official support channels (website or e-mail) for further information on how to use the Fare-related functions in the KVS Tool.

Be careful when making payment! KVS is not able to search member-exclusive award flights,... and it refuses to refund even if you find it does not satisfy your need right after the purchase(it sucks!).

Hi,

Since June 1st AF/KL has moved from inventory scheme to dynamic pricing for awards (except for First class on AF) until the last available seat.

The O, A and X award classes (to make things simple, AF/KL also use O, A and X for revenue...) respectively labelled as CS, WS and YS with KVS are very useful to know availability on AF/KL flights for Skyteam FFP.

What about variable awards for Flying Blue members?
How is KVS handling the new FB scheme?
Is it possible to use KVS to know in which band the award availability exists?

Thanks

KVS Tool has already been updated to support all types of FB Awards, including Standard, Variable and Partner.

Please consult the AF/KL sections of the KVS Tool User Guide for details.

Thanks for the reply.

I guess you refer to this?

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...482dbc974e.png

So you mean that KVS allows to know the variable price in miles for awards on AF/KL?

That is correct.

Please contact us directly if your require further information.

Be aware that while the tool may have this functionality now it could go away at any point in time -- and without any notice. :eek:ther data sources have disappeared after the data owners discovered KVS's unauthorized use and blocked it. This has happened numerous times before.

I admire your determination to put this fraudulent business called "KVS whatever" down... I was keen to do it too, but lost my determination... Seems that there are enough of "stupid" people around to feed this "kevin's" or whatever his name is "business"...

Any way to make Amadeus Check My Trip work again?

Oh dear -- did the owner of another unauthorised data source discover that KVS was selling their info?! That's what you get with KVS -- data sources that go away without warning. Caveat empt:or!

Nope that was because the CCC showed how easy it is to extract PNR data and do something potentially malicious with it:

https://media.ccc.de/v/33c3-7964-whe...armen_sandiego

https://media.ccc.de/v/31c3_-_6308_-...ystems_-_saper

The legacy version of CMT has been fully phased-out and replaced with the new CMT. PNR Manager has already been updated accordingly.

As always, please contact us via the official support channels (website or e-mail) if you have questions or require assistance regarding the KVS Tool.

New CheckMyTrip doesn't work. It just redirects to a home page and asks you to create an account and log in.

Please contact us via the official support channels (website or e-mail) and include a screenshot.

If you are not logged in/do not have an account with the new CMT, it just redirects you several times and ends up at https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmtweb/w...ng.html#/login

If you create an account and are logged in, it passes the PNR and last name but it still prompts you for the first name in the popup.

This issue has now also been resolved -- please download V8.9.8.R1 and try again.

IB MAD-NRT probably (hopefully !!) bringing up incorrect seating chart.
 

Hello, only a minor error if it is an error. Either way I need to know !!!!!

Using KVS to look up flights from Madrid to NRT on Iberia shows IB6801. When then linking through to a seat map it brings up the Iberia LEVEL A332 (A330-200) as opposed to the IB A332 (A330-300 (v2)). Is this correct (economy & PE only on the IB LEVEL version, no lie-flat business class) ??????

Links to:
https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Iberia/Iberia_IB_Airbus_A330-200_LEVEL.php
Hoping it should link to:
https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Iberia/Iberia_Airbus_A330-300_V2.php

Cheers.

This is an issue with SeatGuru itself, which should be reported to them directly.

To verify the actual seat layout, please use the [Seat Map - Advanced] function in the KVS Tool.

KVS Tool BA Award Search yields infinite CAPTCHA
 

Trying to (impossibly) find award space ex-WAS to Florida over Xmas and using BA for ex-DCA and I'm getting an infinite CAPTCHA. I answer the CAPTCHA correctly and it just keeps presenting another one. I called it off after 11 of them. I realize this is KVS backend triggering BA.com but just putting it out there if anyone else has the same problem (or any advice).

KVS Tool continues to function normally.

If you experience issues with Google reCAPTCHA, try logging-in to a Google account (e.g. GMail) in MSIE (and keep it logged-in). Alternatively, try using a different internet connection.

https://productforums.google.com/for...ch/4OurqmOY4sw

Moderator's Note
 

FlyerTalk is not KVS' customer assistance venue.
Customer service requests which are not of general interest the entire FlyerTalk community do not belong here and should be submitted directly to KVS through their website.

If you experience problems contacting KVS through their website, you may use our Private Messaging system to communicate with them.

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Thank you for understanding,

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Travel Tools moderator

Question for the kvs users
 

I cant seem to get a good idea browsing/search through the forum/kvs web site. Does the kvs tool provide insights on remaining seats on a flight? For example, I believe ExpertFlyer shows how the seat inventory in different classes/prices so we can see if there would be potential award seats available when it get closet to the departure date. I am specifically asking to see CX/One world availability....thanks!