Except for MUC-JFK, those routes would need to be searched segment-by-segment. Alternatively, you can use the [Awards/BA-OneWorld] Method:

[KVS Tool 7.7.2/Diamond - Awards/OneWorld/AU-QFA-SP]
[KVS Tool 7.7.2/Diamond - Awards/BA-OneWorld]

thanks

Why is the difference?

Booking code O this is CS, but no YS

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/qO...Kw4=w1886-h751

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/XK...Ow4=w1886-h751

The images you have embedded are not publicly-accessible -- please re-post.

Ready

I am trying to check availability for NRT-SHE-ICN APR 16 in Business Class (Class CS?) [Method AF/Skyteam]

NRT-SHE shows 3 seats on CZ
The SHE-ICN line is blank.

The Air France website will not recognize SHE as a valid originating airport, but accepts it as a destination airport.

If I choose a RT Apr 11 ICN-SHE Apr 16, the SHE-ICN return shows up with 3 C seats available (CZ 671).

According to an Alitalia ticketing agent, only 2 seats are available.

Any pointers why KVS shows 0, AF 3 (but only if selected as part of a round trip), and Alitalia finds only 2? Plus the agent claimed that even if she found the award inventory she was not sure if she would actually be able to book it.

The images are still not accessible.
Please re-post using http://TinyPic.com (or similar).

As noted in the KVS Tool User Guide, the [Awards/SkyTeam] Method provides Availability on a per-trip basis. The Award Availability shown applies to all connecting segments.

Indeed, it is a limitation of that Engine.

We have confirmed that 3 C Award Seats are currently available on CZ 628, but only 2 on CZ 671.

It does not -- please see above.

It's either a System or Segment Marriage logic issue:
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Factors

Why not?

How did you confirm that only 2 C are available on CZ 671?
I'm not sure I get the whole "married segments" concept but it seems what you are saying is the the AF engine is getting tricked into showing 3 seats for the NRT-SHE-ICN routing? And the blank line on KVS (which per your suggestion is the same as the first line, i.e. 3 seats ARE available) is an artifact of the AF bug?

"Our system will not allow it". I asked her if she could call CZ (i.e. suggesting what I believe is called a "long sell", I might even have used those words) - but she said they do not have any way of checking inventory with CZ. I am not totally clear on what the agent was saying. Perhaps she meant that only 2 seats were available, period. I also asked if she could book the 2 and we could figure out the 3rd, but she thinks that by doing so the third person's LAX-ICN and ICN-LAX transpacific C legs might get blown away. (There seems to be reasonable return inventory but I confirmed that now no seats show available on the outbound flight).

Other than this the agent has been very very nice, in fact she called me back like she promised (unlike reports to the contrary on the AZ boards that the call center agents never do so). She also complimented me on finding the itinerary and has given me till Thursday to find something else :)

I need 3 seats in C from Tokyo to Seoul Apr 15/16 with at least one leg not on Korean Airlines (nonstop KE inventory is available, but AZ claims stopovers are not permitted on Single Skyteam Partner awards).

Without pix

Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Awards & Upgrades Search
Departing HKT on 12/29/14 0:00 for SVO
Flying SU on booking class O
Direct/Non-Stop Only
Frequency
Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Class Description Code Seats
0 Connections
SU 275 0 HKT SVO 77W Su,M,Th Business - Award & Upgrade O 2
12/29/14 11:55 12/29/14 18:20 NA / NA

[KVS Tool 7.7.2/Diamond - Awards/SkyTeam/FR-AF]
HKT Phuket Intl TH [VTSP]
SVO Moscow Sheremetyevo Intl RU [UUEE]
MON 29 Dec 2014 | 1 Seat
Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive St Award Availability
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------------
SU 275 HKT 11:55 SVO 18:20 YS+

CS+ vs YS+ =Why?=

SU appears to be providing different Award Availability to different partners.

You can see the 2 O Class Seats via the KVS Tool Mobile Companion, specifying SU as the airline.

You can see the 2 Seats via the KVS Tool Mobile Companion, specifying CZ as the Airline code.

It's not an AF bug -- CZ is currently managing its Availability that way (whether intentionally or in-error):

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Factors

Unlike AA, US Award Availability can only be searched via the [Awards/BA-OneWorld] Method:

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#US

It appears that US does not currently provide Award Availability on that flight to its Partners, either intentionally or due to a data sync issue.

Continuously getting errors 12007 and 9002 when using FARES/GOL and Awards/BA-OneWorld. Looking for things in Mid January 2015.

The only thing that seems to be reliably working is the Timetable tab.

Have you followed the local system troubleshooting steps at http://Errors.KVSTool.com/?

If the issue persists, please provide a screenshot via http://Contact.KVSTool.com/

Since the Availability tab in the KVSTool disappeared last month, I have been using the Mobile Companion. However, today it seems to have stopped working, too. I receive the following message:

The reservation system is temporarily unavailable [RD]. Please try again later.

Is this a temporary glitch, or has this method of accessing availability failed as well?

Availability is the one thing I use the KVSTool for most frequently. Is an alternate method for availability forthcoming?

It is a temporary issue with the MC Availability Engine.

Update: This issue has been resolved.

The problem seems to have returned ... :(

Must have been a transient Engine issue -- please try again now.

Anyone get an error message when searching *A awards using AC?

I get the message "Due to a technical issue, our web site is currently unavailable"

Must have been a temporary [Awards/AC-StarAlliance] Engine issue -- please try again.

Impossible to find all fares when trying to find TUN-SYD on AF: it is limited (no business fares)
Is there a direct class fare research possible as before (eco, premium, biz and first)
[KVS Tool 7.7.3/Diamond - Fares/GOL]

Please KVS can you answer how to check all fares on a destination ?
LHR-NYC, you have only a part of eco fares and of course no premium,business or first fares. Are you aware of this horrible limitation and what do you will do to correct this malfunction?

Unfortunately, the [Fares/GOL] Engine does not support specific-Cabin requests. Premium Cabin Fares will be included if they are a part of the ~40 lowest published Fares on the requested route/carrier, but there is currently no way to force them to be displayed if they are not.

I have some AA miles, and I am trying to check availability for DFW-AUH-AMD OR DFW-DOH-AMD for FEB 07 in Economy Class for any oneWorld affiliated carrier (including Etihad and Qatar). I tried booking via AA using award miles, but aa.com refused to book to AMD becuase they don't serve that destination. I want to check availibility of tickets with KVS via other oneworld carries such as Qatar or Etihad (technically not full oneworld member). can anyone help me to check the availability please? I am total newbie to this forum, so please forgive me if this is not right place or question?

So what are the longer term plans for this service? The tool is significantly less useful than it was before, not to mention much less user-friendly. Setting aside the elephant in the room that is the theme of the above wiki, and the earlier main thread, what is going to happen t the KVS suite of services in the future?

Good question LE. I've been thinking along similar lines.

The previous thread is closed (I had missed all of that fun) and the big question still hangs in the room which we've not had a reply to yet. To be frank, I've subscribed for many years and I'm interested in knowing whether we're going to get back to the previous level of service, and if so, how. If not, that's fine too, but I think we deserve to know.

Thanks for this very bad evolution of your tool. After 10 years of subscription ...:td::td::td:

The same as for the last 10+ years that the KVS Tool had been in existence -- to provide our Members with a comprehensive and powerful Tool.

We are not sure what you are referring to :confused:.

That theme is a baseless and pointless rant, intertwined with made-up "facts". The Wikipost is not a part of the KVS Tool Thread and we see no merit in addressing it at this time.

Being a KVS Tool Member since 2006, you must have, surely, witnessed the evolution of the Tool. Numerous new Methods and Functions were added, while some Engines ceased to exist, together with their corresponding Methods.

We always strive to add the relevant functionality, requested by our Members, and will make the relevant announcements, once it is appropriate to do so. However, we are unable to speculate about something that is largely outside of our control.

Reposting this as it probably got buried in other discussion: Would love to get help from KVS or some other knowledgeable users....

I have some AA miles, and I am trying to check availability for DFW-AUH-AMD OR DFW-DOH-AMD for FEB 07 in Economy Class for any oneWorld affiliated carrier (including Etihad and Qatar). I tried booking via AA using award miles, but aa.com refused to book to AMD becuase they don't serve that destination. I want to check availibility of tickets with KVS via other oneworld carries such as Qatar or Etihad (technically not full oneworld member). can anyone help me to check the availability please?

The tool is a lot less comprehensive than before, and weaker. The Fares section is now pointless, and without an integrated availability function...what's the point? The canned answer is not really cool.

The fact that I have to use the mobile availability function (with its limitations).

I didn't contribute to the previous thread, I've made no qualitative statements on it, and the moderators closed it. The moderators also added the wiki, so I'm not going to go into detail on that, other than to comment that there must have been some dialogue between you and the moderators.

Yes, it has been a great tool up until a few weeks ago (and on that basis I'd be happy to renew). You can't deny that functionality has decreased, and the opacity around the whole business is not really helping your case. I do think it's time to fess up a little more.

Well, if you're only going to be using KVS for this one specific trip, I'm not sure that I'd invest the $20 necessary for buying/"donating"/"contributing" the tool. If I were in your shoes, I'd probably just go with what SFOPhD recommended in his post from the Etihad forum--use the Etihad site for EY, and get a BA account for searching QR. BA also covers IB.

That said, double check on the AA requirements for getting to India--generally you can't connect in a different zone than your origin or destination, though there are a couple exceptions. I'd look at the MileSaver thread in the AA forum. Good luck!

The Availability function in the KVS Tool Mobile Companion is equivalent to the former [Availability/FS] Method in the main KVS Tool Application.

The Wikipost was added by a regular FT member, not a Moderator:
http://www.FlyerTalk.com/forum/wikip...readid=1630178

Some functionality has increased, some decreased (as a result of external changes that are outside of our control), some transferred to the Mobile Companion.

We fully appreciate the impact that these changes, both positive and negative, may have on our Members and are always looking for ways of minimizing the latter.

KVS Tool supports Award Availability on all OneWorld carriers, as well as EY:

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Classes

EY only flies from DFW on Wed/Fri/Sun and currently has Y Award Seats available on 06 & 08 Feb:

[KVS Tool 7.7.3/Diamond - Awards/EY]
[KVS Tool 7.7.3/Diamond - Awards/EY]

Thank you @KVS for taking care of this. Much appreciated.

Does KVS offer any kind of a trial period or testing?

No, but we do offer 2-month Membership options:
http://Join.KVSTool.com/

Be careful, as the functionality you are expecting to use c;)uld vanish at any time without notice.

Yea, not worth the $20 just to get a flavor of the software when I can already tell the basic usability. Mainly was just curious to try a couple different scenarios as a curiosity.

There are a few limitations to EF that drive me nuts, but I can work around them well enough given the cost.

DL changed their award levels today, and KVS is showing garbage characters in the award availability screen for it.

This has now been corrected -- please download KVS Tool V7.7.4

Seems that the JL search isn't working quite right. Given the inputs HKG-BOS on 2 May 2015 on CX, I get:

If I manually search via the JL website, the search works and shows no availability. The JL site requires a return date, which KVS doesn't have an obvious input for.

tl;dr: appears that KVS doesn't correctly pass data to the JL site, or can't correctly interpret the returned data

Availability tab missing?
 

Sorry for the rookie question: I recently registered for the KVS Tool and installed on my PC.

But - I don't see the "Availability" tab, and cannot find fare availability info [Screenshot]

I can see the seatmap and make roughly sense of the load, but I'd like to use the regular fare availability tool too.

Thanks!