Hyacinthe

It's not cached, it's timeout.
Searches will automatically timeout after 60 seconds, displaying only the results that have been found during that time.
The broader the search, the less accurate.
This is why a monthly search will usually return less results than a +/- 3 days search, or even a day search.

It is true that if you use advanced routing codes in a monthly search, you'll get more accurate results.

If you already know what airlines operate the route you're searching, try limiting your search to those airlines/alliances. It can help sometimes.

Sabasi

My calendar fare searches never last 60 seconds, and I have not seen the "not necessarily cheapest fares" problem claimed above.

Calchas

What is your typical search though?

Sabasi

International complex itineraries.

Calchas

I think that's quite a broad ambit.

When I am looking around for fare sales, I might use lots of combinations of starting and ending cities (say more than thirty each of origins and termini). This noticeably slows down on the calendar search, even with a tight routing specification.

carsnoceans

There is definitely some caching issue with ITA... i am getting results that yield same fares (specified route and airlines), however when I go to airline website for booking, the fares are varying greatly.

Not trustworthy at all.

Calchas

It might be ITA. But it may also be a point of sale issue. Also, the airlines websites can be giving wrong information.

flargley

Matrix has become absolutely useless for me, as all I ever want to search for is /alliance skyteam, and all that ever happens is the "unknown error" message. I've tried now on 3 different computers, using 3 different browsers on each laptop, and it continutes to screw up.

edit: Wow, now when clicking on flights (e.g. aug1-aug15) displayed within the calendar, the dates of the fares pulled come out incorrectly! For instance, in this picture, all the fares should be august 1-15. Instead, when you click on them some are aug1-aug13, some are aug1-aug17, etc etc.

THIS IS EXCRUCIATING; THE PRODUCT HAS BECOME USELESS. FIX IT, GOOGLE BROGRAMMERS.

(I guarantee that some Product Manager at Google has promulgated an intentional strategy of killing matrix to drive people to Google Flights. Ugh)

susiesan

I want to use the matrix to find the shortest travel time way to get from MCI to CMB on award tickets. I will redeem AA miles and need to fly on oneworld airlines. I'd like to fly CX one direction, JL the other on the TPAC portions. Because it is an Asia 2 award destination I have to fly over the Pacific; I cannot go eastbound through Europe or Middle East cities.

What sort of code do I put in the advanced search line to get me the possible combinations of flights I can use for my vacation trip?

Steppo

First of all: I have no experience in booking AA-Awards and this might be the wrong thread for your question.

You first need to know which airports get served by JL and CX.. You will find it here: http://onw.fltmaps.com/en

Allready did this for you and here is something to start with:

Outbound
Inbound
Maybe you want to define the minconnect and maxconnect.. since 50min to change the plane might be stressfull. You may also want to exchange the f+ with AA,US+ for the domestic US and maybe to exchange the asia ones too.

The next step would be: Check AA for availability on the pacific flights on your desired dates. Matrix can't tell you the award-availability.
Replace the CX1-7000 & JL1-7000 with your possible flights and move on. Build your trip by checking availability and narrowing your search for each flight.

susiesan

I tried the first code for the outbound with a modification, took out the CMB:: No flights on JL come up. I know they exist. Also no connections through LAX or SFO come up. I had this working before with another code
someone gave me
N+ ORD,SFO,LAX,NYC,YVR CX HKG N+ / alliance oneworld

But I have not been able to get the web site to work for me again. I did get results that included JL flights once but I don't remember how I got the JL flights to show up. I have been using the oneworld site to search but it never shows all the alternatives. I have also been going back and forth between all the different airline web sites and schedules to build my trip. It would be nice if I could see the results in one place with the hours and minutes totaled up.

Calchas

Without the CMB :: prefix the FROM box is not valid.

Do you mean you put f+ nrt,hnd,kix JL1-7000 BOS,JFK,LAX,ORD,SAN,SFO,YVR f+ / alliance oneworld; f bc=Y|bc=C|bc=F in the routing code box?

susiesan

I meant to say I took out MCI::

I put MCI in the departing from box and CMB in the destination box.

When I put the code you gave me in the advanced routing line I get this message:
MCI::f+ BOS,EWR,JFK,LAX,ORD,SFO,YVR,YYZ CX1-7000 HKG f+ / alliance oneworld; f bc=Y|bc=C|bc=F

QPX warning. Bad route specification.

Calchas

The double colon means "routing information follows". Either put the whole string in the from box, or you can put MCI in the from box and then the stuff after the double colon (not including the colons) in the advance routing box.

susiesan

This code found me some routes I had not discovered on my own on JL flights:
CMB-BKK-NRT-SAN-DFW-MCI with 29h48m travel time
CMB-BKK-NRT-LAX-DFW-MCI with 29h48m travel time
CMB-HKG-KIX-LAX-DFW-MCI with 30h43m travel time

The ideal pathway home would be
CMB-HKG-ORD-MCI 27h36m travel time on CX flights. If I cannot get award seats on those flights I'll go for the JL ones.

Thanks Calchas for your assistance using ITA Matrix. Another FT'er comes through with an answer!