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Old Mar 10, 2018, 12:52 am
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FAQ: Royal First Class Lounge and Royal Orchid Spa information and access.
Thought with the number of FCL and Spa questions littering this board it might be worth making a sticky with all the available information and also provide a place for members to ask their questions. Please let me know if you think it is a good idea and please let me know if any of the information I have included is wrong or if you feel anything else needs to be added.

Thai Airways Royal First Class Lounge

Link to webpage: FCL
Link to pictures courtesy of lounge guide.net: FCL pictures


Royal First Lounge at Concourse D, Level 3 - 1,400 sq.m. has been allocated for Royal First Class passengers with the capacity to accommodate 134 passengers at one time.

Opening hours: 05:00 am. – 01:00 am.

Facilities:
• 2 VIP Rooms
• 6 Private Corners
• 22 Seated A-la-Carte Dining Room
• Wi-fi Internet Corner with 4 PCs
• Slumber Rooms
• Shower Suites
• Toilets with Wheelchair Accessible
• TG First Class Check-in Facility
• Smoking lounge


Lounge access rules:

Departures in TG or *A F from BKK = FCL access

TG F Arrival connecting to international TG C/Y = FCL access

TG F Arrival connecting to *A C = No FCL access

TG F arrival connecting to domestic TG C = officially no FCL access, however some people have been granted access in this situation.

*A F arrival connecting to TG C or *A C = no FCL access

1 guest is allowed when departing in TG F or *A F


Q: If arriving in TG F and departing in TG C the following day, will I get access to the F lounge?

A: Offically the answer is no as you need a same day ticket, however some people have been granted access in this situation. So very much a YMMV situation.

Q: If arriving in TG F and staying in BKK, is it possible to use the TG F lounge as an arrivals lounge?

A: Unfortunately this is not allowed, although exceptions have been made before. So officially it's not allowed, but there is no harm in asking.


Thai Airways Royal Orchid Spa

Link to webpage: Spa


Royal Orchid Spa at Concourse D, level 3 – 667 sq.m. is primarily designed to serve Royal First and Royal Silk Class passengers with full ranges of spa services.

Opening hours: 06:00 am. – 11:30 pm.

General Facilities:
• 32 Seated Lounge Area
• Healthy Snack
• Hot/Cold Herbal Drink

First Class Zone Facilities:
• 3 Touch Of Silk Suites (Body Massage)
• 6 Neck & Shoulder or Relaxing Foot Massage Corners
• 2 Steam Rooms
• 2 Sauna Rooms
• 4 Shower Rooms
• Toilets

Silk Class Zone Facility:
• 8 Neck & Shoulder or Relaxing Foot Massage Corners

Treatment Menu:

Touch Of Silk Massage (Full body oil massage - 60 minutes for First Class only) – Ler's start your journey with a relaxing Touch of Silk full body oil massage. Delivered with the unique 'Thai touch', this massage will help to prepare your body for your onward flight by increasing blood circulation as well as relieving muscular tension and helping to provide the necessary hydration for your skin. On leaving the massage you will be left with an overall sense of well-being and total relaxation.

Neck & Shoulder Massage (30 minutes) – This is a great massage for passengers who are stressed, work at the computer too much or don't relax well. Neck and shoulder problems from routine activities are among the most common area for massage therapists to address. Using specific techniques the therapist will work to loosen tight muscles around the neck and shoulders whilst simultaneously assessing how much tension is held in the body and how best to release it. You will board your flight feeling more relaxed and a little lighter on the shoulders.

Relaxing Hand Massage (30 minutes) – Are your hands tired from all that clicking, driving, messaging and typing? If so, how about offering them a break and giving them a massage they truly deserve? By massaging the major channels/meridians of the arms and reflex points in the hands, this deep hand massage is designed to thoroughly release tension that accumulates in the hands and arms from our daily tasks. finishing with warm towels for both arms encourage muscle relaxation; this treatment can help to deliver a total sense of relaxation.

Relaxing Foot Massage (30 minutes) – Let's help prepare your feet for your onward journey, by taking the weight of them and giving them a relaxing massage that they truly deserve. Foot massage is a well-known relaxation therapy to help take care of tired feet. With the gentle touch of the therapists' hands, a sense of overall relaxation is induced. Deeper pressure by the fingers will help to stimulate your vital organs.


Spa access rules:

TG F departure = F spa access

*A F departures = No spa access

TG C departures = C spa access

*A C departures = No spa access

TG F arrival connecting to TG C = C spa access, however some people have been offered F spa access in this scenario

No guest are allowed regardless of class of travel


Q: Is it possible to book the spa treatment in advance?

A: No. You can book at First class check-in, at the FCL or the Spa itself - they will indicate the approx waiting time if more than a few minutes.


I have had some PMs from newer members who are confused by some of the abbreviations on this post. If you need help understanding them, FT has a great tool for looking up their meanings in the FT glossary.
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Old Aug 6, 2018, 12:47 am
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Any recent lounge visitors?
I have a F trip this coming weekend, and dont expect any changes to the F lounge since I was last there in February.
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Old Aug 6, 2018, 2:36 am
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Originally Posted by Tokyoite
Any recent lounge visitors?
I have a F trip this coming weekend, and dont expect any changes to the F lounge since I was last there in February.
no changes in the F lounge for a long time
was there last time in July and will be there again later this month
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Old Aug 24, 2018, 4:05 am
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Well this is a new one! My sister arrived TG F from FRA today, collected by golf cart and driven to... the biz class lounge! Luckily I had briefed my sister on F lounge eligibility if connecting F->C and she said 'but I arrived first class'. Apparently at that point the driver and staff fell over themselves to take her bag and escort her to the F entrance.

If I hadn't briefed my sister she would have ended up in the C lounge. Wonder how many others in this boat?

Only thing I can think of is that they somehow confused her with a biz class passenger who was tagging along with an F companion? Although even in that case the F pax could guest someone in to F.


Scrap that! Case of miscommunication. Sister has arrived back and clarified the situation. Golf cart took them to security and one passenger was delayed with a bag search. The escort stayed with the delayed passenger and directed my sister to the lounge on her own. On presenting her C boarding pass at the lounge entrance she was directed to the biz class lounge. At that point she mentioned she arrived in F and was warmly welcomed in!
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Old Aug 25, 2018, 11:35 pm
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Do i get spa treatment when i connect from TG F to TG Y?
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Old Aug 25, 2018, 11:41 pm
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Originally Posted by tboons
Do i get spa treatment when i connect from TG F to TG Y?
according to rule not, but I would ask the staff in the F lounge. if not during a busy time (evening), they might grant you a 30 Minute shoulder/neck- or footmassage
let us know, whether you got one...
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Old Aug 26, 2018, 4:56 am
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Originally Posted by BinSabai
according to rule not, but I would ask the staff in the F lounge. if not during a busy time (evening), they might grant you a 30 Minute shoulder/neck- or footmassage
let us know, whether you got one...
Oh man, i booked thai connecting flight because i thought i could access it. Sad. I arrived at 7am...
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Old Aug 26, 2018, 5:22 am
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Originally Posted by LHR/MEL/Europe FF
Well this is a new one! My sister arrived TG F from FRA today, collected by golf cart and driven to... the biz class lounge! Luckily I had briefed my sister on F lounge eligibility if connecting F->C and she said 'but I arrived first class'. Apparently at that point the driver and staff fell over themselves to take her bag and escort her to the F entrance.

If I hadn't briefed my sister she would have ended up in the C lounge. Wonder how many others in this boat?

Only thing I can think of is that they somehow confused her with a biz class passenger who was tagging along with an F companion? Although even in that case the F pax could guest someone in to F.


Scrap that! Case of miscommunication. Sister has arrived back and clarified the situation. Golf cart took them to security and one passenger was delayed with a bag search. The escort stayed with the delayed passenger and directed my sister to the lounge on her own. On presenting her C boarding pass at the lounge entrance she was directed to the biz class lounge. At that point she mentioned she arrived in F and was warmly welcomed in!
And here, ladies and gentlemen, is how sensationalist rumours based on second-hand information start

Thanks for correcting it though, as we now know this was not a service failure from TG.
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Old Aug 26, 2018, 5:28 am
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Originally Posted by SKT-DK
And here, ladies and gentlemen, is how sensationalist rumours based on second-hand information start

Thanks for correcting it though, as we now know this was not a service failure from TG.
Well... partially true. If I had not briefed my sister on eligibility for the F lounge based on arriving F, she would have gone to the biz class lounge when they told her. As I suspect would other passengers not familiar with TG’s policies (although the escort waiting for a delayed passenger at security probably isn’t all that common).

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Old Aug 26, 2018, 6:42 am
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Originally Posted by tboons
Oh man, i booked thai connecting flight because i thought i could access it. Sad. I arrived at 7am...
you can enjoy F lounge, but not spa treatment… spa treatment is strictly according to the class you depart; so also Platinum and ROP Gold get lounge access but no spa if flying cattle
but ask for a massage based on your arriving fly and tell them that you had not even F lounge access at your departing point (from some destinations like FRA or MUC, it's true) and ask to compensate with a massage
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Old Aug 26, 2018, 7:54 pm
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BKK-NRT NH J
NRT-IAH NH F
Do you get TG FCL access in BKK?
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Old Aug 26, 2018, 8:12 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyingXplorer
BKK-NRT NH J
NRT-IAH NH F
Do you get TG FCL access in BKK?
No according to the rules. Lounge access determined by cabin class for the departing sector, not subsequent sectors. Hence for BKK-NRT in J you'll gain access to *A business lounges, but not the TG F lounge. I believe this is *A policy, which is unlike OW's different rules for this situation.

You could always politely ask, but keep expectations very low.

My experience is a bit dated, so others may chime in with more recent experiences.
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Old Aug 26, 2018, 8:29 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyingXplorer
BKK-NRT NH J
NRT-IAH NH F
Do you get TG FCL access in BKK?
No.
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Old Aug 26, 2018, 8:45 pm
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agreed no
you could ask the most politest way you are able to but you will not be granted access
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Old Aug 26, 2018, 9:31 pm
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Originally Posted by BinSabai
agreed no
you could ask the most politest way you are able to but you will not be granted access
Yes, my sense is with no TG flight on the itinerary, it's no chance.

Note that in addition to the TG Royal Orchid lounges, you can also access the BR and SQ lounges at BKK. And of course both the NH Suites lounge and UA GFL at NRT.
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Old Aug 26, 2018, 9:37 pm
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Thanks everyone! Certainly no reason to come early to the airport then.

TG, BR, or SQ Business Class Lounge? The TG lounge is mediocre imo. ​​
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