Well, this is extremely disheartening. The major objection to Omni posts counting was that they were not meaningful to the core FT. The successful argument was that OT posts that have exchanges between people are also a part of this community, as witnessed by the Lounge threads, however, those that simply counted, nor had any exchange beyond posting a "pick me" (that was what I posted) in a contest thread certainly didn't add anything to the community.

It seems that content-free posts belong in games, unless it's 400k of content free posts in community that Randy had an ulterior motive for, and then it's ok to have those in the member's total.

So, I really disagree with this decision.

I have to be the only person on FT who never saw it :)

it's worth looking for, particularly in light of arguments he tried to make later about validity of those threads.

Another example of the mods ignoring the desires of the posters and making their own rules. I hope the self-esteem boost of running your virtual fiefdom is worth it.

Ignoring the desire of which posters? Do you think if we contacted everyone who posted in those threads, they'd agree with you? :confused:

So who should we, as forum mods, listen to - the people who use our forums or the people who complain about moderation at every turn? Difficult one, really!

the posters ... :confused:

the majority on flyertalk - or some people in this thread, bored on a saturday afternoon? I prefer to listen to the people in my forum.

Agreed. The hypocrisy really stinks.

Both false statements. Nothing in the motion limits moving threads only existing in OMNI. Therefore, it did cover the Community forum.

You're going to have to come up with a better justification for ignoring the TOS. But I guess the standard "the TB can't tell me what to do" always trumps all.

The TB represents the posters of FT.

How many CB posters did you poll? Did you allow everyone to give their input?

BTW. It's not your forum.

Please let us know how and where we can make our views clear on what you call "my forum".

P.S. I always that of this place as "our", but hey I guess I was mistaken.

But they may not reflect the views of our user group - cf the differences in response to questions about commercialised dos between TB discussions and Cbuzz discussions.

Are you honestly trying to tell me that TB has a greater understanding of how Cbuzz works than we do just because they got elected to TB? Having been a TB member - it doesn't actually work like that.

Still, if TB has nothing better to do than to attempt to micromanage forum matters, perhaps they should just give all as they've solved all the big problems.

What does the TB's understanding of the inner workings of YOUR forum have to do with you following the TOS and posting threads in their proper forum. If one of YOUR posters started a thread on a Continental flight, would it be OK to leave it there because you have a better idea of how YOUR forum works?

Let me weigh in on what I understood the intent of the Talkboard vote to be. Hopefully you will then understand that no mod is trying to circumvent the recent Talkboard vote.

Members have been discussing post counts ever since Omni was removed from post counting. I believe that the issue has been voted on 3 times by Talkboard and I hope to God that the recent vote has been the last. People care passionately about their counts.

My understanding of the recent three votes were:

1. They demonstrated respect for posts that are made in Omni/Omni PR. Members contribute there as part of the FT community.
2. We do not want to repeat the errors of the past where post counting would be run up very quickly. Thus, a new subforum was created. It happens to use the word "games" but in my understanding of intent, it is meant to be for threads that allow rapid fire posts with no thought as to content.

At no time did I see talk of "cleaning up" by reducing post counts created thanks to such posts in the past. I am unaware of any conversation about moving contest threads to the new forum. They are locked threads, they won't be bumped, there is no current opportunity to advance post count by posting in them. However, the open counting threads have or will be moved to the new forum.

I am bewildered by those who got counting turned on in Omni and now want post counts reduced for others. What happened historically happened. It has nothing to do with the worthiness of those threads nor where they would be placed if created today. It's simply a matter of here is where we are today; where do we want post counts to occur going forward.

I have completely done what I understood the intent of the Talkboard vote to mean. I have asked moderators to tread lightly in making decisions about what to move because of the enormous passion of the past years from folks who wanted their voice to count. And I am genuinely tired of the time that continues to be consumed on this topic.

I hope that folks will now understand why some threads have been moved and not others. There is no partiality, there is no favoritism, there is no resistance to the wishes of the Talkboard. And I'd like us to find another topic besides post counts to gum.

Thank you Carol. I disagree for the reason I stated, but will abide by your decision.

I hope this mess is over as well. What a can of worms Randy opened :(

Thank you so much, Carol. Good to know I am not the only one who's been tired of this never-ending-bashing-or-your-head-is-redder-than-mine type of antagonizing discussion since January 21st, 2012.

I have yet to find a true community, either online or off-line, that's built upon antagonizing acts or gestures.