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N830MH Feb 4, 2012 1:26 pm


Originally Posted by Dovster (Post 17950187)
I can imagine the reaction of some very upset people. :D

I think you're absolutely right. That's why some member are very extremely upset about the post count. That's why they losing the post count. I'll be disappointing. There is no reason to lose the post count. This is violated of TOS rules.


Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 17949435)
If it's a game thread, you very well could lose the post count if the original post was made when the posts counted (before 2008).

Yes, you are right about the post count. That's why they lose the post count. I wasn't sure why they moved the thread into the Games Forum. I would assume if they will have reconsider to bring the post count back to normal routine again.

kokonutz Feb 5, 2012 10:23 am


Originally Posted by SanDiego1K (Post 17951755)
Let me weigh in on what I understood the intent of the Talkboard vote to be. Hopefully you will then understand that no mod is trying to circumvent the recent Talkboard vote.

Members have been discussing post counts ever since Omni was removed from post counting. I believe that the issue has been voted on 3 times by Talkboard and I hope to God that the recent vote has been the last. People care passionately about their counts.

My understanding of the recent three votes were:
  1. They demonstrated respect for posts that are made in Omni/Omni PR. Members contribute there as part of the FT community.
  2. We do not want to repeat the errors of the past where post counting would be run up very quickly. Thus, a new subforum was created. It happens to use the word "games" but in my understanding of intent, it is meant to be for threads that allow rapid fire posts with no thought as to content.

At no time did I see talk of "cleaning up" by reducing post counts created thanks to such posts in the past. I am unaware of any conversation about moving contest threads to the new forum. They are locked threads, they won't be bumped, there is no current opportunity to advance post count by posting in them. However, the open counting threads have or will be moved to the new forum.

I am bewildered by those who got counting turned on in Omni and now want post counts reduced for others. What happened historically happened. It has nothing to do with the worthiness of those threads nor where they would be placed if created today. It's simply a matter of here is where we are today; where do we want post counts to occur going forward.

I have completely done what I understood the intent of the Talkboard vote to mean. I have asked moderators to tread lightly in making decisions about what to move because of the enormous passion of the past years from folks who wanted their voice to count. And I am genuinely tired of the time that continues to be consumed on this topic.

I hope that folks will now understand why some threads have been moved and not others. There is no partiality, there is no favoritism, there is no resistance to the wishes of the Talkboard. And I'd like us to find another topic besides post counts to gum.

Thanks for posting this, Carol.

I think it would be helpful to post all of your and the moderators' interpretations of decisions taken. Along with the past ones. Contained in the moderator best practices.

It would help the rest of us understand whats going on and avoid misunderstandings like this one.

:)

Mary2e Feb 7, 2012 6:38 am

Just as an aside here.... Since Omni posts started counting again I've noticed quite a few people start posting there again and some newbies as well.

Who ever said post counts don't matter? :D :D :D

SkiAdcock Feb 7, 2012 8:22 am


Originally Posted by Mary2e (Post 17967400)
Just as an aside here.... Since Omni posts started counting again I've noticed quite a few people start posting there again and some newbies as well.

Who ever said post counts don't matter? :D :D :D

Or it might be there was a topic they wanted to post on. Unless you plan on PMing everyone to find out if posts counting is the only reason they posted, you really can't say it was due to turning posts back on on. I'd venture to say that those who like to play games don't really care that their games no longer add to their post count. It evens out. Shrug.

Realizing I've added to it, hopefully this thread will die down & we can move on to other things such as new forums, wikipedia, etc.

Cheers.

kipper Feb 7, 2012 8:44 am


Originally Posted by SkiAdcock (Post 17967979)
Realizing I've added to it, hopefully this thread will die down & we can move on to other things such as new forums, wikipedia, etc.

Cheers.

That would probably be too easy. :D

dchristiva Feb 7, 2012 8:51 am


Originally Posted by HansGolden (Post 17951192)
Well, I'm glad that this thread has shone light on the fact that post counts and "Flyertalk Evangelist" titles are simply a mockery & a joke, and that FT politics (rather than the best interest of FT'ers) makes so that it won't be restored to a place of meaningfulness. Other forums and Wikipedia are success stories in using level of activity and peer review* as a useful indicator of the authority with which an anonymous internet user speaks. This is very useful when $100s are often at stake on whether one trusts FT advice or not, or to sort things out when conflicting advice is given.

* The Forum Which Must Not Be Named as well as SlickDeals & FatWallet use peer review to good effect as well.

I don't want to say "I told you so", but I told you so. What did folks think was going to happen? I think it's very funny. Not to mention that several people claimed not to give a hoot about others' status, yet here we are with folks noticing how many others are suddenly gaining the "Evangelist" title.

I am curious for the sudden 2000 post increase in my count. What caused that?

hhoope01 Feb 7, 2012 8:58 am


Originally Posted by dchristiva (Post 17968164)
I am curious for the sudden 2000 post increase in my count. What caused that?

They probably came from posts in OMNI after the 2008 change. (Those posts are now counting where they didn't before.)

RichMSN Feb 7, 2012 9:16 am


Originally Posted by dchristiva (Post 17968164)
I don't want to say "I told you so", but I told you so. What did folks think was going to happen? I think it's very funny. Not to mention that several people claimed not to give a hoot about others' status, yet here we are with folks noticing how many others are suddenly gaining the "Evangelist" title.

I am curious for the sudden 2000 post increase in my count. What caused that?

Seems to be trendy to say that "I don't care" and then later be proved to care. :D

jfe Feb 7, 2012 9:18 am


Originally Posted by Mary2e (Post 17967400)
Just as an aside here.... Since Omni posts started counting again I've noticed quite a few people start posting there again and some newbies as well.

Who ever said post counts don't matter? :D :D :D

Me, and I am just posting this to see what my count is :p

I think mine went up, but I cannot honestly tell you by how much, since none of the stuff I post really matters, regardless of the forum that I post

dchristiva Feb 7, 2012 11:19 am


Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 17968338)
Seems to be trendy to say that "I don't care" and then later be proved to care. :D

Agreed. There certainly seems to be some of that happening.

CMK10 Feb 7, 2012 1:11 pm

Looks like mine went up about 150. That sounds right.

N830MH Feb 7, 2012 1:29 pm


Originally Posted by CMK10 (Post 17970098)
Looks like mine went up about 150. That sounds right.

Yup, sure it is. I got now 23,000 post club.

AJLondon Feb 7, 2012 3:44 pm


Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 17968338)
Seems to be trendy to say that "I don't care" and then later be proved to care. :D

Maybe there needs to be an analysis of those who voted on this had their post count effected/inflated as a result... Surely no correlation, right?

RichMSN Feb 7, 2012 3:49 pm


Originally Posted by AJLondon (Post 17971224)
Maybe there needs to be an analysis of those who voted on this had their post count effected/inflated as a result... Surely no correlation, right?

I participate in OMNI and OMNI/PR and I'm happy that my posts there are finally included in the post count. If you've seen my platform for the few times I ran for TB, one of the themes has *always* been to get those posts counted (and for the posts of all OMNI participants counting again).

But I've moved on now. I've made a motion for a new forum today and I'd really like to get working on WikiPosts next.

SkiAdcock Feb 8, 2012 7:46 am


Originally Posted by AJLondon (Post 17971224)
Maybe there needs to be an analysis of those who voted on this had their post count effected/inflated as a result... Surely no correlation, right?

None with me. I don't pay attention to my post count, so can't tell you what it was before.

I voted to make posts count because I think we should be consistent across all forums, which is also why I voted that games sub-forum should count as well. Note I don't post in the games threads and I understand the reasoning for those threads not counting.

But my vote had nothing to do w/ my personal post count. Thanks for sharing your theory, but I don't agree with it.

Cheers.


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