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kokonutz Feb 8, 2012 7:59 am


Originally Posted by AJLondon (Post 17971224)
Maybe there needs to be an analysis of those who voted on this had their post count effected/inflated as a result... Surely no correlation, right?

Personally, that was entirely my motivation for supporting this motion. Woo-hoo, now I am WINNING!

Next I am going to make a motion that TB members' posts count twice. ^

Mary2e Feb 8, 2012 8:11 am


Originally Posted by SkiAdcock (Post 17967979)
Or it might be there was a topic they wanted to post on. Unless you plan on PMing everyone to find out if posts counting is the only reason they posted, you really can't say it was due to turning posts back on on. I'd venture to say that those who like to play games don't really care that their games no longer add to their post count. It evens out. Shrug.

Realizing I've added to it, hopefully this thread will die down & we can move on to other things such as new forums, wikipedia, etc.

Cheers.

Well, I've identified at least 2 people who were posting their hearts out all over FT, but never in Omni. As soon as the switch was turned on, presto-change-o, they started posting in Omni.

But I also think this issue made people more aware of Omni and they're now checking it out.

SkiAdcock Feb 8, 2012 8:21 am


Originally Posted by Mary2e (Post 17975226)

But I also think this issue made people more aware of Omni and they're now checking it out.

That's my guess as to the real reason.

But speaking for myself as a regular FTer, I'm rather tired of the subject at this point & am hoping everyone can move on. There are other forums being considered, and koko said once stuff gets announced threads die down - still waiting for that :p

Cheers.

Dovster Feb 8, 2012 8:38 am


Originally Posted by SkiAdcock (Post 17975293)
and koko said once stuff gets announced threads die down

Until this moment I had high respect for you, but anyone who pays attention to what koko says... :D

Skyman65 Feb 8, 2012 8:44 am


Originally Posted by Mary2e (Post 17975226)
Well, I've identified at least 2 people who were posting their hearts out all over FT, but never in Omni. As soon as the switch was turned on, presto-change-o, they started posting in Omni.

Mary, your stalker habits are truly creepy. :eek:


;)

Mary2e Feb 8, 2012 8:57 am

I can't help it if I subscribe to a lot of forums, and one of these, ahem, post padders also frequents many of the same forums :D

The other has been around for years and disappeared from Omni when the post counts did.

I can't help it if I know alot of people :)

hedur Feb 8, 2012 11:19 am


Originally Posted by AJLondon (Post 17971224)
Maybe there needs to be an analysis of those who voted on this had their post count effected/inflated as a result... Surely no correlation, right?

Because the Community Director assured everyone that counting posts in OMNI would not be retroactive, I don't see how you would think there's any correlation at all.

SanDiego1K Feb 8, 2012 3:17 pm


Originally Posted by hedur (Post 17976602)
Because the Community Director assured everyone that counting posts in OMNI would not be retroactive...

It was my intent that we go forward with no post count readjustment. In my naivete about the vb software, I thought that posts would be moved from non counting Omni to non counting OMNI/Games with no impact on post count. (Yes, I know that I inadvertently set up the Omni/Games forum for a few hours so that posts counted there, but that was quickly corrected.) So I was taken as off guard as the people impacted when they found their post counts drop. People care when their post counts drop, so that needed to be corrected. And apparently the only way to do that with any meaning was to do a rebuild on post counts, so that then had the impact of all past uncounted OMNI posts now counting. I, myself, don't quite understand what happened and why, but anyone involved did it with the best of intent for the board.

I have a mantra about FlyerTalk that "no change is too small to go unnoticed". That's not relevant to this situation. I think I need a new mantra something to the effect of "Change will often have unintended consequences."

CMK10 Feb 8, 2012 3:41 pm


Originally Posted by SanDiego1K (Post 17978276)
It was my intent that we go forward with no post count readjustment. In my naivete about the vb software, I thought that posts would be moved from non counting Omni to non counting OMNI/Games with no impact on post count. (Yes, I know that I inadvertently set up the Omni/Games forum for a few hours so that posts counted there, but that was quickly corrected.) So I was taken as off guard as the people impacted when they found their post counts drop. People care when their post counts drop, so that needed to be corrected. And apparently the only way to do that with any meaning was to do a rebuild on post counts, so that then had the impact of all past uncounted OMNI posts now counting. I, myself, don't quite understand what happened and why, but anyone involved did it with the best of intent for the board.

I have a mantra about FlyerTalk that "no change is too small to go unnoticed". That's not relevant to this situation. I think I need a new mantra something to the effect of "Change will often have unintended consequences."

Thank you for keeping up with this thread and your honesty and full disclosure in what happened and why ^

hedur Feb 8, 2012 4:05 pm


Originally Posted by SanDiego1K (Post 17978276)
It was my intent that we go forward with no post count readjustment. In my naivete about the vb software, I thought that posts would be moved from non counting Omni to non counting OMNI/Games with no impact on post count. (Yes, I know that I inadvertently set up the Omni/Games forum for a few hours so that posts counted there, but that was quickly corrected.) So I was taken as off guard as the people impacted when they found their post counts drop. People care when their post counts drop, so that needed to be corrected. And apparently the only way to do that with any meaning was to do a rebuild on post counts, so that then had the impact of all past uncounted OMNI posts now counting. I, myself, don't quite understand what happened and why, but anyone involved did it with the best of intent for the board.

I have a mantra about FlyerTalk that "no change is too small to go unnoticed". That's not relevant to this situation. I think I need a new mantra something to the effect of "Change will often have unintended consequences."

Just for the record, my post was not made to criticize your previous statement vs. the way it played out in the end (I assumed it was an unintended technical thing), but instead I was trying to put to bed the notion that some TB members may have voted the way they did so they could have a huge post increase overnight.

Fredd Feb 8, 2012 4:20 pm


Originally Posted by SanDiego1K (Post 17978276)
In my naivete about the vb software, I thought that posts would be moved from non counting Omni to non counting OMNI/Games with no impact on post count. (Yes, I know that I inadvertently set up the Omni/Games forum for a few hours so that posts counted there, but that was quickly corrected.)

I hadn't followed the "which-posts-count" discussion at all closely, although I realized there was a TalkBoard motion, but I noticed the other day that I was now an Evangelist with over 11,000 posts. I've played the "People Association" thread quite a bit, although not recently and have visited OMNI quite rarely otherwise. Perhaps my posts went up temporarily during that window you mention.

As of yesterday I'm no longer a posting Evangelist and I'm reasonably sure my post count is significantly lower than before this started - I think I was somewhere around 8500 posts and now I'm under 7000. :confused:

Of course, like all of the others posting, I hasten to add that I don't really care what my post count is... ;) I'm asking for an "Explanation for Dummies" just to be helpful. :p

sonofzeus Feb 8, 2012 4:26 pm

Thx to whomever for recognizing my contributions to this community. :cool:

hedur Feb 8, 2012 4:37 pm


Originally Posted by Fredd (Post 17978654)
I hadn't followed the "which-posts-count" discussion at all closely, although I realized there was a TalkBoard motion, but I noticed the other day that I was now an Evangelist with over 11,000 posts. I've played the "People Association" thread quite a bit, although not recently and have visited OMNI quite rarely otherwise. Perhaps my posts went up temporarily during that window you mention.

As of yesterday I'm no longer a posting Evangelist and I'm reasonably sure my post count is significantly lower than before this started - I think I was somewhere around 8500 posts and now I'm under 7000. :confused:

Of course, like all of the others posting, I hasten to add that I don't really care what my post count is... ;) I'm asking for an "Explanation for Dummies" just to be helpful. :p

IBobi made a post explaining this in the Technical Issues forum, but, the gist is...your post count went up to reflect the posts you've made in OMNI where posts are now counting. Your post count went down when any of the game threads you've participated in were moved to OMNI Games where posts are not counting.

Hope that helps. :)

Fredd Feb 8, 2012 9:01 pm


Originally Posted by hedur (Post 17978764)
IBobi made a post explaining this in the Technical Issues forum, but, the gist is...your post count went up to reflect the posts you've made in OMNI where posts are now counting. Your post count went down when any of the game threads you've participated in were moved to OMNI Games where posts are not counting.

Hope that helps. :)

Thanks. ^ If the People Association thread in OMNI didn't count before, I still don't understand how my total post count ends up being 1500 posts less (if my memory serves me correctly) than it was four days ago. :confused:

I think some would agree it's an ironic occurrence in a forum in which so many of us spend so much time keeping statistics and seeking transparency in our airline, hotel and other statistics. ;)

Time for me to return to those windmills. :)

N830MH Feb 9, 2012 11:34 pm


Originally Posted by sonofzeus (Post 17978689)
Thx to whomever for recognizing my contributions to this community. :cool:

I highly respectful to SanDiego1K doing her job. She had it right to moved from OMNI into Game Forum. That's why you will lose the post count in early 2008. He disable the post count. Because it was too many people who padding the post count. Randy who had deactivated the post count back in early 2008. Randy who had it rights to disable post count. You have accepted it from the past.


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