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Dovster Jan 15, 2012 3:21 am

5. meaningless.

Skyman65 Jan 15, 2012 5:02 am

The padder familias has spoken. :)

chrissxb Jan 15, 2012 11:13 am

The FT world isn't going to fall apart if we keep it the way it is. :)

nsx Jan 15, 2012 11:15 am


Originally Posted by Swanhunter (Post 17816210)
Like it or not, members use post count as one way of assessing the credibility of another member. Like it or not, OMNI posts are utterly irrelevant to the core purpose of FT. So, IMO they should not count.

The core question is whether the post count is a tool to inform readers or an ego boost for the poster. From what I can see, it's mostly the latter.

As I posted in 2008:


Reality-based monikers would have a progression like this:

FT Newbie
FT Lurker
FT Tortoise
FT Searcher
FT Explorer
FT Contributor
FT Loudmouth
FT Slut
FT Addict
FT Obsessive

BTW, everyone posting here qualifies at least for the Addict level. :D

hhoope01 Jan 15, 2012 12:00 pm


Originally Posted by Dovster (Post 17816663)
5. meaningless.

I have to disagree. It takes a lot of time (and effort) to get to almost 30K posts (even if someone is doing nothing but playing numbering games.) Thus a high post count can at least give an indication of time posting within FT.

I would postulate that given that the vast majority of the people coming to FT have at least some passing interest in Miles/Points/Traveling/etc, there is probably a correlation between FT involvement (i.e. post count) and interest in miles/points/etc.

ewrfox Jan 15, 2012 3:24 pm

Did this motion pass or fail?

RichMSN Jan 15, 2012 4:18 pm


Originally Posted by ewrfox (Post 17819472)
Did this motion pass or fail?

It's still an active motion and the vote/voting period is not complete.

CPRich Jan 15, 2012 8:43 pm


Originally Posted by Cholula (Post 17787594)
I just made an informal proposal in a PM that I'll probably bring up to the whole TB and that is to create a new OMNI known as OMNI/Games. So we'd have regular OMNI, OMNI/PR and OMNI/Games.

The posts in OMNI and OMNI/PR could count and the posts in OMNI/Games might not count depending on how everybody felt about it.

Or the posts in all three forums could count or not count. I'm not really hung-up on the counting/not counting thing.

But OMNI/Games would break the games away from regular OMNI and wouldn't "clutter" up the main page of OMNI as some folks seem to feel they do.


So instead of not counting OMNI, we are going to count OMNI and then make OMNI to be not OMNI and segregate off topics that are off-topic, and not count those, like old-OMNI?

I hope I'm safe in assuming that all those who oppose "a-post-eid" and strongly believe that ALL POSTS MUST COUNT would rapidly shoot this idea down in flames. Correct?

Because discussions of "Gawd I hate Tebow" are much more aligned with the stated mission of this forum than counting games!

CPRich Jan 15, 2012 8:47 pm


Originally Posted by SkiAdcock (Post 17754771)
Both times when it was discussed & voted on previously by TB, it lost only by 1 vote. So obviously there's support for the idea.

The OP says a 2/3 majority is required to pass. Isn't that 6 out of 9 votes? Losing by 1 vote would be 5 votes for, correct?

Motion Failed: Restore Post Count Credit for Omni says

On 8 August 2011 the TalkBoard failed to pass by a vote of 4-5

Motion Failed: Include OMNI posts in Post Counts says

On 29 February 2008, the TalkBoard failed to pass, 3-6,

N830MH Jan 15, 2012 9:03 pm


Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 17819730)
It's still an active motion and the vote/voting period is not complete.

Let me know if they passed the motion. If they can restore the post count once again. I can say "Yes" to reactivation the post count again.

hhoope01 Jan 15, 2012 9:11 pm


Originally Posted by N830MH (Post 17820901)
If they can restore the post count once again. I can say "Yes" to reactivation the post count again.

If you are asking about going back and adding back all the "missed" OMNI posts since Randy's edict, then I do believe that isn't possible per Sandiego1K's post earlier in this thread.

N830MH Jan 15, 2012 9:44 pm


Originally Posted by SanDiego1K (Post 17756042)
No, you cannot.

Yes, she's right! You can't have the post count anymore. it's forever!

CPRich Jan 15, 2012 9:44 pm

I updated the earlier list of For and Against and, as far as I can interpret:

For: 22, including 5 TB members

Against: 40, including 1 TB member


Not surprisingly, TB members got their opinions in early as they were aware of the topic being raised. The argument that including TB members as members makes it very close no longer holds true as others chime in.

So, TB members, are you going to pass a motion that the non-TB general members, who have made an effort to express an opinion, oppose more than 2-to-1?

matthandy Jan 15, 2012 10:21 pm


Originally Posted by CPRich (Post 17821058)
So, TB members, are you going to pass a motion that the non-TB general members, who have made an effort to express an opinion, oppose more than 2-to-1?

The sad reality is that in all likelihood yes, even more so because some voted before even waiting for the debate to be drawn out.

How the TB can continue to say that they represent the community I do not know.

Pointless :rolleyes:.

EDIT: If you stick to just non-TB members you get 17 for and 39 against, that's 30% for and 70% against (17/56 and 39/56).

hedur Jan 15, 2012 11:52 pm


Originally Posted by matthandy (Post 17821185)
The sad reality is that in all likelihood yes, even more so because some voted before even waiting for the debate to be drawn out.

After reading your posts in this thread and your overwhelming vitriol for RichMSN, it's quite astounding that you haven't shared the same opinion about bhatnasx, especially after this post made just hours after this thread was started:


Originally Posted by bhatnasx (Post 17756970)
Although I'm sure this will be an unpopular position, I voted against this.


Originally Posted by matthandy (Post 17821185)
How the TB can continue to say that they represent the community I do not know.

How? Because it's quite obvious that the opinions of 56 people don't necessarily represent the wishes of over 377,000 members. The TB members have to vote their conscience as well as taking into consideration the wishes of the members. The majority of those against this proposal have expressed the completely nonsensical opinion that they are against OMNI posts counting because they want post counts to ONLY reflect the amount of travel knowledge shared by a member. It has been demonstrated numerous times that there are countless posts (and entire threads) in the main section of FT that are not travel related. So, as it is now, posts count do not, in any way shape or form, represent only a member's travel related knowledge shared. I applaud the TB members who discount these nonsensical opinions and choose to go with common sense instead.


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