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yosithezet Jan 11, 2012 11:42 pm


Originally Posted by Prospero (Post 17754859)
Sharon, the ink is bearly dry on last year's vote. Isn't the decision fairly reached by the 2011 Talkboard deserving of greater respect. Sure, there may be credibility in this proposal if some material change in FT could be demonstrated but this has not been presented to the membership thus far.

The big mistake by 2011 Talkboard is that they didn't gerrymander in such a way that their decisions would continue t be respected and upheld once they left office. This will be of much more import now that the term limits have come into place. This is exactly the way the LY program will end up in the Europe Forum and the Pakistan Airlines forum will end up in SEA Airlines forum.

kokonutz Jan 12, 2012 7:55 am


Originally Posted by SanDiego1K (Post 17797512)
Rich, I take you at your word. I think the important point is that I, personally, have absolutely no negative feeling about members posting in Omni. I am oblivious to the portion of a member's posts in Omni when searching for a new mod or a new ambassador or a volunteer in any other role. Omni is a great place for members to come together to have a range of conversations on any (civil) topic of their choice.

Thanks for sharing that, Carol.

IMHO, it is a positive change from previous management beliefs and practices. ^

And thanks, RichMSN, for sharing your experience.

Let the discrimination against OMNI end once and for all! ^^

goalie Jan 12, 2012 9:26 am


Originally Posted by Cholula (Post 17787759)
At least the two of us, kokonutz, are in agreement about a third sub forum for OMNI and that whether or not the posts for that sub forum, if it gets created, should or should not count.

I suspect that there are other TB'ers who are probably in general agreement with this as well.

There's at least 3 of us ;)

RichMSN Jan 12, 2012 9:27 am


Originally Posted by goalie (Post 17799923)
There's at least 3 of us ;)

4.

hhoope01 Jan 12, 2012 9:42 am


Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 17799938)
4.

Oooh. Is this a counting thread?

5.

Sorry I just couldn't resisit. :eek:

RichMSN Jan 12, 2012 9:47 am


Originally Posted by hhoope01 (Post 17800046)
Oooh. Is this a counting thread?

5.

Sorry I just couldn't resisit. :eek:

Heh heh. Of course, that's another issue with a Games thread. What's a "game"? Just more to sort out, I guess.

Canarsie Jan 12, 2012 9:51 am


Originally Posted by Cholula (Post 17787759)
At least the two of us, kokonutz, are in agreement about a third sub forum for OMNI and that whether or not the posts for that sub forum, if it gets created, should or should not count.

I suspect that there are other TB'ers who are probably in general agreement with this as well.

Although I am not a member of TalkBoard, I also agree.

Mary2e Jan 12, 2012 9:57 am


Originally Posted by SanDiego1K (Post 17796705)
I have been deeply engaged in selection of moderators for several years and now have ultimate responsibility. I look at whether they are active in the forum where a moderator is needed. Are they helpful and knowledgeable. Are they already modeling the leadership behavior we'd like in that forum. It has never occurred to me to look at their Omni participation.

I'll come clean here as well. Like Rich, after applying and not hearing back from Randy, I got a form email indicating that my name would be put in for consideration, but there was nothing at the current time.

Some time later I was having an email exchange with him about something else, and mentioned becoming a moderator. He told me that he thought I was too controversial. Now since I know I'm not controversial in the M&P forums, the only place he could be talking about was Omni, where he was the sole moderator at the time.

So yes, Omni posters are not treated like other posters - and it came from the top.

I was happy to be recognized in the Hyatt forum by being selected as an ambassador. Apparently, I'm not controversial there :D

FWIW - Unlike Rich, I may still have the email :D

goalie Jan 12, 2012 10:29 am


Originally Posted by hhoope01 (Post 17800046)
Oooh. Is this a counting thread?

5.

Sorry I just couldn't resisit. :eek:

Trying to game the system, are we ;) :D

nsx Jan 12, 2012 11:43 am


Originally Posted by kokonutz (Post 17794238)
I feel like there has been a good debate. And further we have seen some movement toward a 'compromise' of having OMNI count but potentially creating a OMNI games sub-forum. That's a positive outcome of this collaborative debate, imho.

I agree. I plan to vote Yes on the current proposal and on a subsequent proposal recommending a non-counted Games forum. I believe that this will get us as close as we can to consensus within the limitations of the current software.

It's unfortunate that we didn't put this compromise together in one vote, and I share the blame for that. However I'm confident that a Games forum proposal will pass, because games will otherwise proliferate once the posts start to count. We should anticipate and prevent that problem rather than reacting to it.

SkiAdcock Jan 12, 2012 11:57 am


Originally Posted by Mary2e (Post 17800148)
So yes, Omni posters are not treated like other posters - and it came from the top.

Perhaps you should say it came from the 'old' top (Randy) vs. the 'new' (Carol), since she posted:

"I think the important point is that I, personally, have absolutely no negative feeling about members posting in Omni. I am oblivious to the portion of a member's posts in Omni when searching for a new mod or a new ambassador or a volunteer in any other role. Omni is a great place for members to come together to have a range of conversations on any (civil) topic of their choice."

Cheers.

dchristiva Jan 12, 2012 12:22 pm

Going in the opposite direction, I'd like to hear from folks why they don't prefer abandoning post counts instead of creating a sub-forum where posts don't count.

nsx Jan 12, 2012 12:34 pm


Originally Posted by dchristiva (Post 17801224)
Going in the opposite direction, I'd like to hear from folks why they don't prefer abandoning post counts instead of creating a sub-forum where posts don't count.

People enjoy post counts, and I think they increase usage. More usage = more ad revenue = better pricing for ad-free option. The extra posts probably add value for the readers, not always, but on average.

Mary2e Jan 12, 2012 12:38 pm


Originally Posted by SkiAdcock (Post 17801041)
Perhaps you should say it came from the 'old' top (Randy) vs. the 'new' (Carol), since she posted:

"I think the important point is that I, personally, have absolutely no negative feeling about members posting in Omni. I am oblivious to the portion of a member's posts in Omni when searching for a new mod or a new ambassador or a volunteer in any other role. Omni is a great place for members to come together to have a range of conversations on any (civil) topic of their choice."

Cheers.

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

I didn't mean to imply Carol was in any way responsible. I was discussing my situation and how it came from the top. I used the past tense. Meaning Randy.

You may not have negative feelings, but as you can see by the posts in this thread, some people do.

essxjay Jan 12, 2012 1:21 pm


Originally Posted by SkiAdcock (Post 17796729)

Originally Posted by cordelli (Post 17796616)
A few seconds ago at the bottom of the forums thread it said

Threads: 1,179,369,
Posts: 17,524,428,
Members: 377,972

Where do you get that info (in any forum, btw). Just curious. I've never seen it. But I'm not up on stats.

Expanded stats and traffic graphs (updated daily) available at Big Boards. Here are some numbers as of yesterday:

Number of posts: 17525353
Number of members: 378013
Post per member ratio: 46
Posts last week: 54283
Alexa ranking: 5196


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