Games threads aren't a problem now because posts do not count in OMNI. Change that and you may seem them rocket.

Why not be pro-active and forward thinking rather than simply reactive after someone has racked up 1000 posts because of counting games?

Vote no against this motion as it is worded and then come up with a new one that covers more of the concerns that people have.

Consistency is a valid point. Not counting OMNI and Lounge posts is probably the right answer.

Or have OMNI posts only count in OMNI and Lounge. Then have travel related only count in the travel related forums. That way everybody wins.

Travel related posts can still count as semi accurate measure of someones experience in travel related forums and OMNI and Lounge posts show someones dedication to the community.

They are both important to someone, just not maybe the same someone.

While it may be a possibility, SkiAdcock does mention in her post that there was no big change in game threads once counting them stopped.

So the levels of posting were the same when posts counted and when they didn't. So there is at least some historical evidence that may lead one to believe the sky won't fall just because OMNI posts start counting again.

But some didn't like seeing a bunch of "game" threads on the first page of OMNI all the time thus masking out most other threads (at least from the first page of the forum). A sub-forum should be able to solve that issue fairly nicely.

I am willing to work with this, but only after this motion passes.

Here's the way I see this happening.

TB is halfway through a vote on whether or not OMNI posts should count. That vote will, obviously, either pass or fail.

Regardless of the outcome of that vote we can make a motion to include a third OMNI sub forum, OMNI/Games, and include in that motion whether or not posts should count in that sub forum.

If the current motion to count posts in the OMNI's fails, I sincerely doubt that we'll pass a motion to create an OMNI/Games forum and have the posts in that forum count. :)

The games in OMNI have been steady over the years with or without post credit so I don't think that's why most folks play the games. I think they do it for the camaraderie or just as something fun to do to occupy their downtime.

An OMNI/Games forum is just an idea at this time and may never happen for any number of reasons. We need to let the vote on the current motion play out and see where we sit when the vote closes on January 19th.

Lets be creative- and heres a new twist^

Make all posts count, but let there be two counters; posts and OMNI posts.

And one can choose to not display OMNI posts just like one can do with titles.

When I think about it this could satisfy both camps, and at least I havent seen any argument against this.

Im pretty sure it could be technically implemented if the will is there.

Wouldn't satisfy me. A post is a post.

This motion has been worded proposing posts count in all forums. So if a later motion is tabled proposing a new OMNI Games forum, surely it would conform to the principles defined by this motion (if passed). Or am I misunderstanding the protocol?

Unless the new motion specifically states it will be non counting and that passes.

On many forums it is also acceptable to take "senior" posters far less seriously than those who have just joined. In that instance too, post count does matter -- just in an opposite way than some may suggest.

The primary reason I support the inclusion of OMNI posts in post count is as a matter of consistency: as the segment of FTers contributing posts in that part of FT are not contributing any less to other FTers than those contributing posts to OT/OTT forums and lounge forums in the miles and points section of FT or in the "Community" forums; and as OMNI and its contributors should not be treated like the proverbial red-headed step child of FT when those contributions are in line with the TOS as applied in the miles & points section.

Even in the "private" FT forums?

Why wouldn't those count?

Can we stop repeating the fallacy that those who post in Omni are being treated "unfairly", or like the "red-headed stepchild"? Every poster on FT has their posts counted the same way. There is no inequality.

Just like many airline frequent flyer programs don't give miles for cheap consolidator fares, not every post made on FT should increase a user's post count.

FT's mission is pretty clear. On the front page it says:

How do OMNI posts fit in there?

[to the tune of "Mr. Ed"]

A post is a post, at most, at most
But we never count a non-travel post.
That is, I boast, unless the post is NOT in Om-nay.

We went to the host for his riposte
He warned us that OMNI could soon be toast.
But IB loves ad money most, so OMNI's here to stay!

People yakity-yak a streak and waste your time of day,
But their posts will never count, unless it's outside of Om-nay

A post is a post, at most, at most
But some people use their post count to boast
And so they play those silly games...

How stupid is this?

5-4-3-2-1

The motion is to count posts in every forum (including Omni & CC). That's it. It's for consistency's (sp?) sake in ALL forums. That's it.

There is a concern by some that games will suddenly skyrocket to fill up all of page 1 if this passes. I don't share that concern.

I checked the first 6 pages of Omni, & there aren't enough games in 6 pages (set at 25/page) to fill up page 1 of Omni if this passes & the game folk go on a game-posting frenzy. I didn't go past page 6 because if it's on page 6 it's not getting bumped up a lot. Of course those same feeding frenzy folk 'could' decide to start some new ones, but overall I doubt it. And as cholula said, he didn't see much of a difference between post counting & posts not counting when it came to the game threads.

Having said that, if posts counting passes & suddenly there's 25 game threads/page continually over a period of time I'd be willing to consider making games a non-counting sub-forum, but until then I don't think it's a huge concern.

FWIW - if we do make games a sub-forum I'd like to see Fantasy Football go into that :p :D :D

Cheers.