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Originally Posted by Mary2e
(Post 17779605)
This in no way is directed specifically at you... but you've hit the problem right on the head... Omni-ites. It's a hold over from Randy's belief there shouldn't be an off-topic area, and it was he who created this second class citizen status.
While I will agree some people live there, perhaps it's because they no longer travel, or don't have anything or much to add to a M&P forum. I can say that it is what happened to me. Technology made it easier to do my job from where I am versus going to a location. Does that mean I no longer should be able to shoot the breeze with some long time friends? Do I not have anything valuable to add to a M&P forum? I still contribute where ever and when ever I can, sometimes in Omni, sometimes in a M&P forum. But I keep coming back for the community aspect of this forum. This is about consistency of treatment of off-topic posts. Some, because they are in a M&P forum, or one that counts, such as community (the contest threads) are valued by this community, while some have no value to the community. So far I haven't seen anyone who opposes treating all posts equally address the consistency issue at all, except to say don't count any post (which I would favor). |
And for the record: I oppose the counting of non-travel related posts (including lounge posts).
Regardless of the outcome of this vote, I would support removing post counts from the sidebar, just so we can stop having this ridiculous and meaningless argument every 6 months. |
Originally Posted by bhatnasx
(Post 17782373)
Ok - so I've attempted to tally up the opinions as best I could based on who has posted in this thread - correct me if I'm wrong (but note that I should be packing as I'm heading to DC to fly to IST tomorrow & will have VERY limited access through the 17th).
Majority that have expressed what I believe to be a clear opinion at this time are against this motion. Feel free to clarify and correct me...apologies in advance if I've spelled your handle wrong. YES - 13 MEMBERS Mary2e wharvey Chillinthemost thelark ewrfox Skyman65 kipper RKG ItsHip2B^2 Jinxy SirFlysALot anonplz GUWonder NO - 19 MEMBERS Jenbel dchristva delta747 as219 canolakid lo2e CPRich tcook052 travelkid CMK10 OverThereTooMuch origin Eastbay1k BadTime alesir HansGolden painintheuk Ritz javabytes DON'T CARE - 8 MEMBERS LIH prem Cordelli Kagehitokiri janetdoe 84fiero JerryFF hhoope01 MissJoeyDFW NO POSTS AT ALL (OR HIDE ALL POSTS) - 6 MEMBERS flyinbob eightblack Markie DenverBrian Steph3n seanthepilot POSTED IN THREAD, BUT NO CLEAR OPINION STATED (at least not crystal clear to me, IMHO) - 14 MEMBERS Prospero Canarsie lin821 tom911 nerd N830MH notsosmart aztimm corruptcanadian Analise PhoenixRev matthandy oliver2002 njx9 Why did you not count the Talkboard members posting in this thread? A quick look by me shows ~ 5 TB members are probably for and 1 against. Since they are members, first and foremost, they should have been counted. That would bring your for and against numbers much closer - perhaps 18 for and 20 against. An accidental omission? RKG |
Originally Posted by RKG
(Post 17782494)
Why did you not count the Talkboard members posting in this thread? A quick look by me shows ~ 5 TB members are probably for and 1 against. Since they are members, first and foremost, they should have been counted.
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Originally Posted by matthandy
(Post 17782534)
I strongly suspect that bhatnasx was attempting to summarise the view of ordinary, non-voting members. Including the TB members would skew this.
And FWIW, matthandy, in regards to your comment on my voting against this motion before the discussion had fully taken place - a very similar discussion had taken place the last time the TalkBoard voted on this and I voted the same way I had voted on the prior vote on this matter. |
Originally Posted by DeaconFlyer
(Post 17782448)
One simple question for you: How is your FT experience different because your (and everyone else's posts) in OMNI don't count?
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Originally Posted by bhatnasx
(Post 17782373)
POSTED IN THREAD, BUT NO CLEAR OPINION STATED (at least not crystal clear to me, IMHO) - 14 MEMBERS
tom911
Originally Posted by kokonutz
(Post 17632254)
Far easier and straightforward to simply count all posts.
Originally Posted by tom911
(Post 17632436)
I can't wait to see the increase in "FT Posting Legends" due to number counting threads. Imagine the whole front page of OMNI full of those types of threads again. I can't begin to express my excitement for all the "contributions" being recognized from these types of posts.
Will you be spinning off a non-post counting OMNI Games forum as has been suggested before?
Originally Posted by kokonutz
(Post 17632486)
I could definitely get behind that notion.
BTW, fwiw, though, I did some counting in a lounge thread just to see if I could. I can. |
Tom, I agree with you, and if the motion passes, I was going to directly speak with the mods of Omni and the CD to ask that counting games be considered post padding and they no longer be permitted. I would go go far as to dig up the old ones and ask they be deleted to try to bring some of those padders back to a normal post count.
The TB can't decide what is appropriate for a forum after its been created, which is why I think there is no mention of the games. |
Originally Posted by Mary2e
(Post 17782691)
Tom, I agree with you, and if the motion passes, I was going to directly speak with the mods of Omni and the CD to ask that counting games be considered post padding and they no longer be permitted.
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Originally Posted by DeaconFlyer
(Post 17782462)
And for the record: I oppose the counting of non-travel related posts (including lounge posts.
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Originally Posted by matthandy
(Post 17782534)
I strongly suspect that bhatnasx was attempting to summarise the view of ordinary, non-voting members. Including the TB members would skew this.
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Originally Posted by tom911
(Post 17782708)
That's exactly the kind of stuff that Talk Board needs to discuss with the membership before they rush to put a motion out for a vote. I still don't see why the rush to vote versus spending some time discussing the issues with the membership and then crafting a motion that works for everyone. The motion could very easily have addressed OMNI Games.
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Originally Posted by tom911
(Post 17782708)
I still don't see why the rush to vote versus spending some time discussing the issues with the membership and then crafting a motion that works for everyone. The motion could very easily have addressed OMNI Games.
I would support a motion that allowed posts in OMNI to count as long as post padding was banned (in all forums I might add). nerd asked a very good question that hasn't been answered: "Again, why are "OMNI games" even an issue, given that post-padding is against the FlyerTalk TOS?" |
Originally Posted by Mary2e
(Post 17782750)
They did discuss it. As part of their platforms and in their responses to questions.
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Originally Posted by Mary2e
(Post 17782750)
They did discuss it. As part of their platforms and in their responses to questions.
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