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RKG Jan 8, 2012 1:57 pm


Originally Posted by anonplz (Post 17773398)
OMNI posts should count. Period.

And anyone voting otherwise, I'll not be able to further support in any additional Talkboard elections. Period.

Good idea! I agree completely! ^

DenverBrian Jan 8, 2012 2:08 pm


Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri (Post 17772341)
personally, i want postcount to ID people with low postcount. used in conjunction with join date.

Why? Newbies are generally clearly identified by their writing style and questions being asked.

And if a newbie jumps right in with a thoughtful, articulate, helpful post...then who cares that they're a newbie?

Kagehitokiri Jan 8, 2012 2:51 pm


Originally Posted by DenverBrian (Post 17773525)
Why?

no complex reason?

GUWonder Jan 8, 2012 3:33 pm


Originally Posted by kokonutz (Post 17754956)

This issue was a major issue in my platform running for TB, and I am happy to have seconded the question and already voted in the affirmative for it.

Time to end the ghetto-ization of OMNIs and CC.

^^

... but this motion by itself, even if passing, will not mark the end of that ghettoization. For the ghetooization to end, more walls would need to be torn down.

chillinthemost Jan 8, 2012 4:04 pm


Originally Posted by RKG (Post 17773458)
Good idea! I agree completely! ^

It is so obvious I can't believe anyone disagrees! ^

Analise Jan 8, 2012 6:50 pm


Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 17773031)
I think "instruct" is not a proper word for a volunteer, member-elected organization. But thanks for your opinion.

What a pity; the TB needs instruction. If the company that owned FT paid you for your services, they'd have you do constructive work. But, hey, the TB is a volunteer group whose participants have nothing else better to do than focus on blatant insecurity as it is manifested in something called "post counts". Have fun. :D

RichMSN Jan 8, 2012 6:55 pm


Originally Posted by Analise (Post 17775145)
What a pity; the TB needs instruction. If the company that owned FT paid you for your services, they'd have you do constructive work. But, hey, the TB is a volunteer group whose participants have nothing else better to do than focus on blatant insecurity as it is manifested in something called "post counts". Have fun. :D

Your opinion is noted and will be given exactly the consideration it deserves.

HansGolden Jan 8, 2012 7:43 pm

To count OMNI posts goes against the whole point of a post count: to get a rough idea of how experienced the poster is. While there are people with massive post counts and zero experience (I'll refrain from mentioning names), it's harder to rack up huge meaningless post counts outside of OMNI.

CC posts, OTOH, should count. CC has one of the strictest set of rules of any forum about extraneous posts.

painintheuk Jan 8, 2012 7:55 pm

Stupid question - how do I vote?
 
I only read the 1st page, but can't figure out how I can vote against this (as someone with MANY Omni posts). The title says that the vote is underway, but I can't seem to vote!

Dr. PITUK

N830MH Jan 8, 2012 8:15 pm


Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri (Post 17773732)
no complex reason?

No, because it was too many people who padding the post count in Omni and Randy who had it right to disabled the post count. He won't let reactivated the post count ever again. It's forever! Randy is made a decsion to disable the post count. Because it was spamming the poster in Omni due to too many personal attacks. You have respected Randy's rights.


Originally Posted by RKG (Post 17773458)
Good idea! I agree completely! ^

Me, too. I understand it now. They won't allowed to restore the post count in Omni for a very long time.

RichMSN Jan 8, 2012 8:20 pm


Originally Posted by painintheuk (Post 17775523)
I only read the 1st page, but can't figure out how I can vote against this (as someone with MANY Omni posts). The title says that the vote is underway, but I can't seem to vote!

Dr. PITUK

You can't. The vote will be made by the 9-member TalkBoard. Elections are every November and the term is 2 years.

Your opinion, however, has been noted.

PhoenixRev Jan 8, 2012 10:32 pm


Originally Posted by SirFlysALot (Post 17772892)
Let's just make Omni posts count and be done with it!

Posts is posts. I have never seen another board where only some posts actually count.

That is the God's honest truth.

I am active on a lot of forums where a post count is listed and every single post counts whether it is on topic or off topic, listing a bug in the Tech forum, or even a Haiku post that is annoying, but can occasionally be amusing.

It is even made worse here where post counting seems fairly arbitrary because some off-topic posts count and some don't.

Eastbay1K Jan 8, 2012 10:36 pm


Originally Posted by PhoenixRev (Post 17776246)
That is the God's honest truth.

If this is an Arizona god, well... ;)

matthandy Jan 8, 2012 10:37 pm

Here's a new idea: How about a motion that prevents TB members from bringing up defeated motions again after only a few months?

In my view, repeating this motion damages the reputation of the TalkBoard and I am disappointed that some of the people that I voted for, who promised new thoughts and ideas chose this as one of the first motions since the election. Guys, this is rather poor :td:. Where are the fresh ideas? Do you have no respect for the people that came before you and all of the opinions that were aired by ordinary members on this topic?

Wouldn't it be better to review the concept of post counts, decide on how they are perceived and then make a decision on which forums should count? I would strongly suspect that new members and lurkers associate post count with a level of experience and knowledge. That may not be translate into actual experience, but I suspect that is the initial perception.

In my view, if you make a contribution to the community, it should count, OMNI or not, since it is very much a community in itself. However, counting games make zero contribution as they are nothing more than a post padding exercise. I've seen a few names that I recognise posting on such threads and my opinion of those posters dropped significantly.

To those TalkBoard members that publicly state that their vote is swayed by popular opinion (which it should be if they claim to represent the community) you should vote no surely, based on this thread? That is not the impression that I get though. Basically it's: 'I've discussed this with some of my friends and they like the idea, so I'm going to vote yes'. Also, at least one member has stated that they've already voted. Surely it would have been better to review the feedback first, and vote after the feedback thread has been closed? If you claim to represent the community, then surely any other course of action is in opposition to this statement?
I ask, what is the point in expressing an opinion at all if this is the case?? :confused:

Very disappointed in you TalkBoard.

PhoenixRev Jan 8, 2012 10:39 pm


Originally Posted by Eastbay1K (Post 17776257)
If this is an Arizona god, well... ;)

You just said that to increase your post count.

:D


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