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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 8:05 pm
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Xiaotung do you know anything about Air Macau? I think CA increased its stake from its original 10-15% to a majority or even full stake from the original shareholders (private investors, Macau SAR govt, etc) over the last couple of years.

Would be great to see Air Macau and Shenzhen Airlines become one entity/holding group and both in Star Alliance - Macau is a great base for regional Southeast Asia, cross-strait flights or even a transit alternative to HKG. I reckon CA could kick CZ and CX's rear if it played the cards right.

Having no Star flights between HKG and TPE is ridiculous (ok now EVA will provide some), and I can see a "Casino Express" going between MFM and LAS!


Originally Posted by Xiaotung
A* application was in last year. I suspect they approved it in Queenstown in December. If all goes well, an announcement will take place on 2 March in Taipei. BR will spend 70 million dollars to renovate their lounge in Taipei.
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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 8:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Thunderroad
Any estimate on when EVA would actually join A*, assuming the application is approved?

And for that matter, could the application be rejected? I'd always assumed that an airline applied if both it and the alliance wanted it to do so, with the lag period being the time necessary to negotiate details, integrate systems, etc.
I would be surprised if an application is rejected. Usually this is all negotiated before the application is submitted. And the joining process can take a long time. I wouldn't expect anything until next year. But this is just a wild guess.
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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 8:39 pm
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Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer
I would be surprised if an application is rejected. Usually this is all negotiated before the application is submitted. And the joining process can take a long time. I wouldn't expect anything until next year. But this is just a wild guess.
Besides, if AI didn't get rejected, why would BR?!

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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 9:17 pm
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This makes sense for both *A & BR, with the changing landscape in Asia. With CI moving to Skyteam, and CX not wanting anyone in OW who compete with them *A makes the most sense. *A continues its policy of having coverage in as many places as possible.
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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 9:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Xiaotung
A* application was in last year. I suspect they approved it in Queenstown in December. If all goes well, an announcement will take place on 2 March in Taipei. BR will spend 70 million dollars to renovate their lounge in Taipei.
They already updated the Diamond lounge in Taipei.
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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 10:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Xiaotung
A* application was in last year. I suspect they approved it in Queenstown in December. If all goes well, an announcement will take place on 2 March in Taipei. BR will spend 70 million dollars to renovate their lounge in Taipei.
I thought their lounge renovation just completed earlier this month?
The money will be better spent upgrading their business class seat...
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 9:02 pm
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Originally Posted by chang9121990
I thought their lounge renovation just completed earlier this month?
The money will be better spent upgrading their business class seat...
+1
those horror business class seats are only good for the regional (short-haul).

BR can still restrict the lounge access in TPE, eg *G in Y is not allowed in diamond lounge/PL garden. (just like SQ)
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 10:23 pm
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Originally Posted by zqsn5678
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those horror business class seats are only good for the regional (short-haul).

BR can still restrict the lounge access in TPE, eg *G in Y is not allowed in diamond lounge/PL garden. (just like SQ)
Boo! We don't need a SQ copycat. On second thought, I doubt BR would get off the hook easy with a stunt like that.

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Old Feb 25, 2011 | 1:03 am
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Provided most European destination by BR need a transit stop at Bangkok, I am interested whether TG and OS will not approve its addition or there will be a condition that BR will need to divert its LHR, AMS and VIE routes to Hong Kong (And Air Traffic Demand in Hong Kong is growing fast which means such a move will be strategicly beneficial to *A as a whole, rather than over competition in BKK)

But interestingly, this will help European carries to boast capacity to its Hong Kong service, as well as SE Asian Carriers Thai Airways and Singapore Airlines, as it could help picking up some CI one stop passengers via Hong Kong from Taiwan.
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Old Feb 27, 2011 | 4:58 pm
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Originally Posted by LAX
Boo! We don't need a SQ copycat. On second thought, I doubt BR would get off the hook easy with a stunt like that.

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If they don't allow their own lower level elites into the premium lounges in TPE (PL Garden and Diamond), why would they allow *Gs into these lounges?
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Old Feb 27, 2011 | 5:05 pm
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Originally Posted by Xiaotung
A* application was in last year. I suspect they approved it in Queenstown in December. If all goes well, an announcement will take place on 2 March in Taipei. BR will spend 70 million dollars to renovate their lounge in Taipei.
2 March? That would be fast. According to the news articles I read, the new CEO (son of the founder who actually has a pilot license and mechanic license also), there is no timetable. If they have a formal announcement, then they would probably have to give an estimate on the time, right? (I hope it happens fast but it seems to take time.)

US$70M is lot of money. They just finished renovating / expanding the premium areas (PL, Diamond). I doubt it would cost/they would spend US$70M to renovate the regular lounge (which is for Silver, Gold and certain Credit Card holders). Did you mean NT$70M?
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 11:24 am
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The General Manager of EVA Air during a visit to an aerospace department of a Taiwan university said that it is possible EVA Air will join Star Alliance within first half of 2012.

The original post (in Chinese) is here:

http://www.udn.com/2011/10/11/NEWS/B.../6645623.shtml
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 6:32 pm
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Originally Posted by huhuhusky
The General Manager of EVA Air during a visit to an aerospace department of a Taiwan university said that it is possible EVA Air will join Star Alliance within first half of 2012.

The original post (in Chinese) is here:

http://www.udn.com/2011/10/11/NEWS/B.../6645623.shtml
I can't see how that's possible when there isn't an official announcement from *A yet about its application. Even June of 2012 isn't too far away.

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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 7:24 pm
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Originally Posted by LAX
I can't see how that's possible when there isn't an official announcement from *A yet about its application. Even June of 2012 isn't too far away.

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I suspect that it is more likely that they mean an announcement that they have been accepted as a future member could come in the first half of 2012.
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 8:10 pm
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Originally Posted by kiwiandrew
I suspect that it is more likely that they mean an announcement that they have been accepted as a future member could come in the first half of 2012.
Well whatever it is, they'd better hurry up. I want to earn AC (or whatever *A FFP I switch to by then) miles flying BR...
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