Jan 29, 2014, 2:36 pm
Last edit by: texashoser
Beginning July 1, 2014, Southwest Airlines will operate daily, nonstop flights between:
For international bookings, only ATL, BOS, BWI, MCO, or PIT can serve as the origination/destination airport. Separate bookings are necessary if positioning flights are required.
UPDATE: Starting August 5, 2014, more cities via staggered schedule will be added as allowed origination/destination airports. The schedule is as follows:
Aug. 5 BDL, DCA, DTW, HOU, LGA, RDU, SDF
Aug. 10 SNA, MKE
Aug. 19 BNA, ORF, PHL, SFO, SJC, SMF, STL
Aug. 26 ALB, BUF, DAY, IND, MCI, MSP, OAK, ROC
Sept. 16 CMH, GRR, ISP, LAX, MHT, PVD, PWM
Sept. 30 DSM, LAS, OKC, PDX, SEA
Oct. 5 ABQ, CAK, CLE, DAL, OMA, SLC
Oct. 28 BOI, FNT, GEG, RNO
Nov. 2 AUS, MDW, SAT
Nov. 11 AMA, CLT, GSP, MSY, ONT
Nov. 18 BHM, CHS, FLL, JAX, LIT, PBI, PHX, RSW, SAN, SJU, TPA, TUS
Dec. 16 CRP, ECP, HRL, ICT, MAF, MEM, PNS, RIC
- Atlanta and Aruba, and Montego Bay
- Baltimore/Washington and Aruba, Nassau, and (twice daily) Montego Bay
- Orlando and (Saturday only) Aruba, and Montego Bay
For international bookings, only ATL, BOS, BWI, MCO, or PIT can serve as the origination/destination airport. Separate bookings are necessary if positioning flights are required.
UPDATE: Starting August 5, 2014, more cities via staggered schedule will be added as allowed origination/destination airports. The schedule is as follows:
Aug. 5 BDL, DCA, DTW, HOU, LGA, RDU, SDF
Aug. 10 SNA, MKE
Aug. 19 BNA, ORF, PHL, SFO, SJC, SMF, STL
Aug. 26 ALB, BUF, DAY, IND, MCI, MSP, OAK, ROC
Sept. 16 CMH, GRR, ISP, LAX, MHT, PVD, PWM
Sept. 30 DSM, LAS, OKC, PDX, SEA
Oct. 5 ABQ, CAK, CLE, DAL, OMA, SLC
Oct. 28 BOI, FNT, GEG, RNO
Nov. 2 AUS, MDW, SAT
Nov. 11 AMA, CLT, GSP, MSY, ONT
Nov. 18 BHM, CHS, FLL, JAX, LIT, PBI, PHX, RSW, SAN, SJU, TPA, TUS
Dec. 16 CRP, ECP, HRL, ICT, MAF, MEM, PNS, RIC
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Jan 28, 2014, 10:42 am
#61
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: BWI
Programs: Marriott LTT, WN A, Hertz PC
Posts: 577
I just looked today at the international flights out of BWI. I looked at going to Nassau July 3rd to the 6th. The outgoing flight is listed at 126$ and the return is 208$.
Booking with points however is only 6,060 points for BOTH flights. Shouldn't it be:
126 x 60 = 7,560 points
208 x 60 = 12,480 points
If this is accurate, you're getting an incredible value using points on these flights right now.
12,120 is all you need to book this roundtrip. 12,120 / 60 (points per dollar) =202 $ worth of points vs. the 334 dollars booking with cash.
Booking with points however is only 6,060 points for BOTH flights. Shouldn't it be:
126 x 60 = 7,560 points
208 x 60 = 12,480 points
If this is accurate, you're getting an incredible value using points on these flights right now.
12,120 is all you need to book this roundtrip. 12,120 / 60 (points per dollar) =202 $ worth of points vs. the 334 dollars booking with cash.
Remember, the fares you see listed in dollars now include all taxes, so once you change it to points you'll see the breakdown of the actual fare vs all the taxes.
Jan 28, 2014, 11:15 am
#62
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: between Albuquerque and Santa Fe
Programs: Kimpton Inner Circle; IHG Spire elite; Marriott & SPG Gold, r
Posts: 838
Jan 28, 2014, 2:36 pm
#63
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Join Date: May 2000
Location: RDU
Programs: AA LT Gold, DL SM, HY Disc, Marriott LT Gold
Posts: 12,507
Did you happen to notice how much you'll be paying in taxes out of pocket even if you pay with points? Let's just say it's a bit more than just $2.50 per segment.
Remember, the fares you see listed in dollars now include all taxes, so once you change it to points you'll see the breakdown of the actual fare vs all the taxes.
Remember, the fares you see listed in dollars now include all taxes, so once you change it to points you'll see the breakdown of the actual fare vs all the taxes.
Jan 28, 2014, 2:44 pm
#64
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 6,286
Point formula change = One-time boost in the value of your points stockpile!
Edit: Southwest is either trying to fix the points glitch right now, or there's something else wrong. When I try to verify and book both with cash and points, the points booking generates the error shown in the 2nd pic below.
Jan 28, 2014, 5:46 pm
#67
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: between Albuquerque and Santa Fe
Programs: Kimpton Inner Circle; IHG Spire elite; Marriott & SPG Gold, r
Posts: 838
Jan 28, 2014, 6:57 pm
#68
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 413
Only connections originating in BOS and PIT are permitted for now, everyone else is going to have to book two reservations and build their own connections. I would imagine this has something to do with Amadeus and SAAS talking to each other.
Jan 28, 2014, 8:21 pm
#69
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 413
The way you worded this makes me believe you think they will start charging us for the excise tax on points reservations in the future (e.g. pay points for base fare plus dollars for excise and security fee)?
Jan 28, 2014, 8:51 pm
#70
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 413
Jan 28, 2014, 10:57 pm
#72
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 6,286
I posted in the tax question thread. Here is the deal. International taxes are handled differently and you will not be able to use points to pay for them, those are out of pocket. To ensure no issues with the system, everything was standardized across the system so you are no longer changed for domestic taxes (when using points) either. WN is eating the excise taxes for domestic only as of right now.
I find it hard to believe that Southwest is going to "eat" $35 per r/t for all international points bookings.
(Also, they're apparently "eating" the Passenger Facility Charge?)
Jan 28, 2014, 11:28 pm
#74
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 6,286
Which seems very unlikely, IMHO.
Reference (note: pdf)
Jan 29, 2014, 12:52 am
#75
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: IAH
Programs: United
Posts: 178
Did you happen to notice how much you'll be paying in taxes out of pocket even if you pay with points? Let's just say it's a bit more than just $2.50 per segment.
Remember, the fares you see listed in dollars now include all taxes, so once you change it to points you'll see the breakdown of the actual fare vs all the taxes.
Remember, the fares you see listed in dollars now include all taxes, so once you change it to points you'll see the breakdown of the actual fare vs all the taxes.