RTW on Skyteam?
Apr 21, 2012 | 11:13 am
#541
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Long-haul, yes, but to the continent is really cheap (Ł22 or Ł24, iirc). You could fly to LHR in the morning on the separate ticket and then back on the next flight on your RTW and ensure you have more than 24 hours before taking off on a long-haul flight from CDG. That will trigger the short-haul taxes instead of the long-haul taxes.
May 26, 2012 | 1:13 pm
#542
Join Date: Nov 2006
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CSKYRTW
I'm trying to book an ex-BOM RTW revenue ticket in business class. Trying to get the AF flights from bom to bordeaux via CDG, but the guy on the delta line keeps saying that the flight comes back unavailable, despite it showing I9.
Is he doing something wrong? Should I try again later? How can I see how much space is available other than looking for I on expertflyer?
There is a DL flight via AMS, but it has a very long layover which I'd rather avoid (apparently the earlier AMS-bordeaux flight isn't available so I'll end up spending all day in AMS.)
Is he doing something wrong? Should I try again later? How can I see how much space is available other than looking for I on expertflyer?
There is a DL flight via AMS, but it has a very long layover which I'd rather avoid (apparently the earlier AMS-bordeaux flight isn't available so I'll end up spending all day in AMS.)
May 27, 2012 | 2:12 am
#543
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I'm trying to book an ex-BOM RTW revenue ticket in business class. Trying to get the AF flights from bom to bordeaux via CDG, but the guy on the delta line keeps saying that the flight comes back unavailable, despite it showing I9.
Is he doing something wrong? Should I try again later? How can I see how much space is available other than looking for I on expertflyer?
Is he doing something wrong? Should I try again later? How can I see how much space is available other than looking for I on expertflyer?
Jul 9, 2012 | 7:57 am
#544
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I've just been browsing the ST web site
It appears to me that the maximum permitted mileages have changed
They are now:
I'm sure the maximum used to be 39,000 miles
It appears to me that the maximum permitted mileages have changed
They are now:
Choose from the following packages based on the miles you plan to travel:
•38,000 miles
•33,000 miles
•29,000 miles
•26,000 miles
•38,000 miles
•33,000 miles
•29,000 miles
•26,000 miles
Jul 9, 2012 | 8:08 am
#545
Join Date: Oct 2011
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I've just been browsing the ST web site
It appears to me that the maximum permitted mileages have changed
I'm sure the maximum used to be 39,000 miles
It appears to me that the maximum permitted mileages have changed
I'm sure the maximum used to be 39,000 miles
Code:
39,000 miles 34,000 miles 29,000 miles 26,000 miles
Jul 29, 2012 | 12:20 am
#546
Join Date: Mar 2008
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150% Increase in ex-SEZ Price
Was just re-checking the price of the CRTWSKY1 ex-SEZ
Earlier this year it was just over 63,000SCR
I see today it is 162,218SCR
An increase of 150%!!
Back to the drawing board
I was planning to purchase late this year; for an intinerary that would run through most of next year. Had even been in email correspondence with KQ ticketing to verify that I could, from PER, purchase at the ez-SEZ price
I have to do something - we are flying to SEZ next March on bmi award tickets - and have to get home somehow
Earlier this year it was just over 63,000SCR
I see today it is 162,218SCR
An increase of 150%!!
Back to the drawing board
I was planning to purchase late this year; for an intinerary that would run through most of next year. Had even been in email correspondence with KQ ticketing to verify that I could, from PER, purchase at the ez-SEZ price
I have to do something - we are flying to SEZ next March on bmi award tickets - and have to get home somehow
Jul 29, 2012 | 2:56 am
#547
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Wow that's bad news. I was hoping to do an ex-SEZ next year. But that's the travel game. You generally have to book early to lock in the good prices as the price is only good at the moment of booking.
Aug 3, 2012 | 7:06 am
#548
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Good folks of FlyerTalk,
With the up-coming entry of Aerolineas Argentinas into SkyTeam, I was looking around for new RTW routes and came up with an interesting conundrum, as follows: if I take a segment, EZE-SYD (which AR do operate as a non-stop flight), would it count as eastbound or westbound?
Plotting the route on a great-circle mapper, I find that the shortest route is the 'westbound' line - but only just! (EZE-PER would be almost exactly over the South Pole, but AR don't have that route). But Great Circles aren't everything - one also has to consider prevailing Jet Stream and wind flows, and commercial airspace issues.
Has anyone actually flown this route?
-- Henry
With the up-coming entry of Aerolineas Argentinas into SkyTeam, I was looking around for new RTW routes and came up with an interesting conundrum, as follows: if I take a segment, EZE-SYD (which AR do operate as a non-stop flight), would it count as eastbound or westbound?
Plotting the route on a great-circle mapper, I find that the shortest route is the 'westbound' line - but only just! (EZE-PER would be almost exactly over the South Pole, but AR don't have that route). But Great Circles aren't everything - one also has to consider prevailing Jet Stream and wind flows, and commercial airspace issues.
Has anyone actually flown this route?
-- Henry
Aug 3, 2012 | 7:53 am
#549
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My sense of geography (not) says it's westbound and that one would have a hard time convincing someone that it's eastbound even if it fly take the polar route.
Aug 3, 2012 | 8:15 am
#550
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It would be considered Westbound
Good folks of FlyerTalk,
With the up-coming entry of Aerolineas Argentinas into SkyTeam, I was looking around for new RTW routes and came up with an interesting conundrum, as follows: if I take a segment, EZE-SYD (which AR do operate as a non-stop flight), would it count as eastbound or westbound?
Plotting the route on a great-circle mapper, I find that the shortest route is the 'westbound' line - but only just! (EZE-PER would be almost exactly over the South Pole, but AR don't have that route). But Great Circles aren't everything - one also has to consider prevailing Jet Stream and wind flows, and commercial airspace issues.
Has anyone actually flown this route?
-- Henry
With the up-coming entry of Aerolineas Argentinas into SkyTeam, I was looking around for new RTW routes and came up with an interesting conundrum, as follows: if I take a segment, EZE-SYD (which AR do operate as a non-stop flight), would it count as eastbound or westbound?
Plotting the route on a great-circle mapper, I find that the shortest route is the 'westbound' line - but only just! (EZE-PER would be almost exactly over the South Pole, but AR don't have that route). But Great Circles aren't everything - one also has to consider prevailing Jet Stream and wind flows, and commercial airspace issues.
Has anyone actually flown this route?
-- Henry
Aug 3, 2012 | 8:21 am
#551
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The RTW planner on SkyTeam's website agrees with you, MSPeconomist and Scandalrag!
I just checked out a route (actually going the other way) and came up with this valid itinerary (bracketed locations are connexions only):
LHR-(AMS)-NBO-(BOM)-ICN-SYD-EZE-(FCO)-LHR
(And it already gives the SYD-EZE leg on AR, even though they're not yet joined up!) I'll see if I can get a route with PER-EZE non-stop, just so I can fly 'under the pole'!! 
I just checked out a route (actually going the other way) and came up with this valid itinerary (bracketed locations are connexions only):
LHR-(AMS)-NBO-(BOM)-ICN-SYD-EZE-(FCO)-LHR
Aug 5, 2012 | 2:14 pm
#552
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I've just been browsing the ST web site
It appears to me that the maximum permitted mileages have changed
They are now:
I'm sure the maximum used to be 39,000 miles
It appears to me that the maximum permitted mileages have changed
They are now:
I'm sure the maximum used to be 39,000 miles
Sep 14, 2012 | 3:19 pm
#553
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: AMS
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Posts: 614
Code:
CRTWSKY4 DL S Round-Trip 9620.00(USD) CRTWSKY3 DL S Round-Trip 11020.00(USD) CRTWSKY2 DL I Round-Trip 12870.00(USD) CRTWSKY1 DL I Round-Trip 14820.00(USD)
Sep 15, 2012 | 2:35 am
#554
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The question I have is how flexible the ITIN is after initially booked? Can't really get it from the (rather lengthy) fare rules, but based on some adjacent language in the rules I would guess that each segment cannot be changed <7 days prior to that segment. Does anyone have an idea/experience with this?
Sep 15, 2012 | 7:46 am
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You can certainly change segments more than 7 days prior and at any time prior to 24 hours before flying I think. But there are change fees which may depend on your status. It might also depend on which carrier issues the ticket so you should give the RTW desk a call at the carrier you wish to purchase from.