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Jul 5, 2014 | 9:59 am

#586

delanotre

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Last edited by delanotre; Sep 13, 2014 at 3:39 am Reason: impossible to add a photo

Sep 9, 2014 | 11:18 am

#587

Mister Nice

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Are there any skyteam fares for RTW in F class ?

Sep 9, 2014 | 11:27 am

#588

KVS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister Nice

Are there any skyteam fares for RTW in F class ?

Yes, there are:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.3 - Routing Rules: PAR-PAR/AF/FRTWSKY3/*]

Code:

PARPAR-AF  7SEP14      *RULE DISPLAY*     TARIFF 0346 RULE 1AF1 
                          
001-FARE BASIS         EUR       NUC                PTC  FT  GI 
FRTWSKY3        R  12539.00  17050.92               ADT  NL  RW 
FRTWSKY3/CH25   R   9405.00  12788.18               CNN  NL  RW 
FRTWSKY3/IN25   R   9405.00  12788.18               INS  NL  RW 
FRTWSKY3/IN90   R   1254.00   1705.08               INF  NL  RW 

BOOKING CODES        F                                          

INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - FRW - FIRST CLASS AROUND THE WORLD         
MPM - RW           NO ROUTING FOUND

---------------------------------------------------------------

  2206 CONSULT ROUTINGS TARIFF

Sep 13, 2014 | 3:30 am

#589

delanotre

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Less technical and more precise answer with a picture from the french TA website:

As KVS it is without taxes (count more or less 250€)
It is from Paris
The lowest prices are from Tokyo and Hanoi, highest from US

Sales conditions
- Travel in Economy, Affaires and Premiere class
- Valid on flights operated by AF, AM, AR, AZ, CI, CZ, DL, FM, KQ, KE, KL, ME, MF, MU, OK, RO, SU, SV, UX and VN
- Minimum 3 stops/maximum 15stops. (Exception for RTWSKY4: minimum 3 stops/maximum 5 stops).
- Each town must be visited twice: 1 stopover + 1 connection or 2 connections.
- The journey must begin and end in the same country. The journey must include one transatlantic flight, on transpacific flight and one transcontinental flight between zones 2 and 3.
- The Mileage of surface routes must be taken into account in the total calculation for the journey.
- The break length is a minimum of 10 days and must not exceed one year.
- Mandatory issuance 72 hours after reservation and at latest 7 days prior to the departure date.
- No Open segment. All the coupons must be issued before the start of the journey.
- Baggage allowance:
- Eco: 1PC / Business: 2PC / First: 3 PC
- the weight of the baggage must not exceed 23 kg
- additional baggage: USD 100 per item
- Miles earned on any SkyTeam loyalty programme
- INF fare: without seat 90% discount - with seat 25% discount
- CHD fare: 25% discount
- UM not authorised
- Change of reservation or itinerary:
- Before departure:
. not authorised on the 1st coupon: application of the cancellation procedure
. other coupons:
Change of itinerary: service charge of USD 125
Change of reservation (date/time/flight): without fee
. no show on 1st coupon: Application of the cancellation procedure
- After departure:
Change of itinerary: service charge of USD 125
Change of reservation (date/time/flight): without fee
- Cancellation/refund (before/after departure): service charge of USD 150

Last edited by delanotre; Sep 17, 2014 at 10:12 am

Sep 16, 2014 | 9:57 am

#590

SteamyUncle

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Would you, by any chance, have the fares from Tokyo and Hanoi ?
Thanks in advance !

Quote:

Originally Posted by delanotre

Less technical and more precise answer with a picture from the french TA website:

As KVS it is without taxes (count more or less 500€)
It is from Paris
The lowest prices are from Tokyo and Hanoi, highest from US

Sales conditions
- Travel in Economy, Affaires and Premiere class
- Valid on flights operated by AF, AM, AR, AZ, CI, CZ, DL, FM, KQ, KE, KL, ME, MF, MU, OK, RO, SU, SV, UX and VN
- Minimum 3 stops/maximum 15stops. (Exception for RTWSKY4: minimum 3 stops/maximum 5 stops).
- Each town must be visited twice: 1 stopover + 1 connection or 2 connections.
- The journey must begin and end in the same country. The journey must include one transatlantic flight, on transpacific flight and one transcontinental flight between zones 2 and 3.
- The Mileage of surface routes must be taken into account in the total calculation for the journey.
- The break length is a minimum of 10 days and must not exceed one year.
- Mandatory issuance 72 hours after reservation and at latest 7 days prior to the departure date.
- No Open segment. All the coupons must be issued before the start of the journey.
- Baggage allowance:
- Eco: 1PC / Business: 2PC / First: 3 PC
- the weight of the baggage must not exceed 23 kg
- additional baggage: USD 100 per item
- Miles earned on any SkyTeam loyalty programme
- INF fare: without seat 90% discount - with seat 25% discount
- CHD fare: 25% discount
- UM not authorised
- Change of reservation or itinerary:
- Before departure:
. not authorised on the 1st coupon: application of the cancellation procedure
. other coupons:
Change of itinerary: service charge of USD 125
Change of reservation (date/time/flight): without fee
. no show on 1st coupon: Application of the cancellation procedure
- After departure:
Change of itinerary: service charge of USD 125
Change of reservation (date/time/flight): without fee
- Cancellation/refund (before/after departure): service charge of USD 150

Sep 17, 2014 | 12:13 am

#591

Kiwi Flyer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamyUncle

Would you, by any chance, have the fares from Tokyo and Hanoi ?
Thanks in advance !

You can look them up yourself on the skyteam RTW tool.

Sep 17, 2014 | 5:58 am

#592

RTW4

Join Date: Feb 2002

Location: Agoura Hills, CA USA

Posts: 2,683

Sorry if this is a repeat question, but it seems that the skyteam RTW tool does NOT give the option of scheduling a RTW in first class.. am I correct, and if so, how may I schedule one? I am usually a One World Alliance flyer .. thank you

Sep 17, 2014 | 7:17 am

#593

delanotre

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RTW4

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamyUncle

Would you, by any chance, have the fares from Tokyo and Hanoi ?
Thanks in advance !

Scheduling yes, as it is independent of the fare.
Only Air France and Korean air have real First Class on Skyteam.
Delta First class corresponds to business, as all others members of the alliance.
Now you can test the tool

First class destinations on AF

Fares from HAN, in business

RTW3 from Tokyo, in First
[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.2 - Routing Rules: NRT-NRT/AF/FRTWSKY3/*]

Code:

TYOTYO-AF 15SEP14      *RULE DISPLAY*     TARIFF 0346 RULE 1AF1 
                          
001-FARE BASIS         JPY       NUC                PTC  FT  GI 
FRTWSKY3        R   1503600  14675.56               ADT  NL  RW 
FRTWSKY3/CH25   R   1127700  11006.66               CNN  NL  RW 
FRTWSKY3/IN25   R   1127700  11006.66               INS  NL  RW 
FRTWSKY3/IN90   R    150400   1467.54               INF  NL  RW 
FRTWSKY3/UM0    R 394027600  16564.26               UNN  NL  RW 

BOOKING CODES        F                                          

INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - FRW - FIRST CLASS AROUND THE WORLD         
MPM - RW           NO ROUTING FOUND

---------------------------------------------------------------

  2206 CONSULT ROUTINGS TARIFF

RTW3 from Hanoi, in First
[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.2 - Routing Rules: HAN-HAN/AF/FRTWSKY3/*]

Code:

HANHAN-AF 15SEP14      *RULE DISPLAY*     TARIFF 0346 RULE 1AF1 
                          
001-FARE BASIS         USD       NUC                PTC  FT  GI 
FRTWSKY3        R  11224.00  11224.00               ADT  NL  RW 
FRTWSKY3/CH25   R   8418.00   8418.00               CNN  NL  RW 
FRTWSKY3/IN25   R   8418.00   8418.00               INS  NL  RW 
FRTWSKY3/IN90   R   1122.40   1122.40               INF  NL  RW 
FRTWSKY3/UM0    R3936463.28  11374.00               UNN  NL  RW 

BOOKING CODES        F                                          

INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - FRW - FIRST CLASS AROUND THE WORLD         
MPM - RW           NO ROUTING FOUND

---------------------------------------------------------------

  2206 CONSULT ROUTINGS TARIFF

Last edited by delanotre; Sep 17, 2014 at 10:06 am Reason: KVS RTW3 in first

Sep 17, 2014 | 9:04 am

#594

RTW4

Join Date: Feb 2002

Location: Agoura Hills, CA USA

Posts: 2,683

Thanks so much.. however I must be missing something as the online tool still will not price a RTW first class ticket from NRT-CDG-JFK-LAX-ICN-NRT... does anyone know of a US travel agent that can help me out? Thanks so very much...

Sep 17, 2014 | 9:44 am

#595

delanotre

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RTW4

RTW tool can not price First class itinirary.
You may contact the assistance for asking how to book in First , but AFAIK, booking is only possible in the origin country, for your travel in Japan.
However, several years ago, it was possible with south african TA specialized (for travel from SA, of course)
Perhaps the rules have changed as it seems possible to book and pay any travel with the tool (in eco and in biz)
Tell us what they told you by phone or mail.

Sep 24, 2014 | 7:09 am

#596

airbowline

Join Date: Jul 2009

Posts: 14

Delta RTW missing from website

I wanted to blog about my upcoming rtw and decided to add a link to the relevant delta.com page. I was unable to find any reference to the program with a variety of search tricks. I called Delta and they confirmed the program was still active. I transferred to the online desk and the person there said that the information had indeed been removed from the delta site and that she had 'no idea' why they had done that.

Any thoughts?

Sep 24, 2014 | 9:32 am

#597

3Cforme

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There are references to RTW awards in the 2014 SkyMiles Membership Guide, still available online.

http://www.delta.com/content/dam/del...M_MemGuide.pdf

Nov 9, 2014 | 8:20 am

#598

Mister Nice

Join Date: Mar 2003

Posts: 1,265

I am thinking about a Skyteam F RTW originating in the US at sometime next spring. Can someone advise of a travel agent in the US that is familiar with booking Skyteam F since it cannot be booked online.

Nov 10, 2014 | 1:31 am

#599

delanotre

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister Nice

Delta seems to be the best way to book awards
They perhaps tell you the way to book paid RTW
1-800-323- 2323
Korean air or Air France in US will probably help you too.
Several years ago I changed a RTW segment with a fee in San Francisco Air France agency
Remember that RTW from US is the most expensive, the lowest seems today be from South african ...

Last edited by delanotre; Nov 10, 2014 at 1:38 am

Mar 7, 2015 | 6:54 am

#600

Goldorak

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When will they have IT systems working properly

I'm trying to use the RTW planner on Skyteam site. After you have entered your city of departure, it is impossible to add cities. When you click on the + sign, it's just emptying the field with the 1st city. So annoying...

I tried from a Mac, from a PC, from a tablet, different browsers. Nothing works.
Does any of you see the same bug ?