2011 - 2021: How likely are waitlisted awards to clear?
Jul 24, 2018, 3:49 pm
#1576
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 1,028
If you are talking about booking in J after waitlisting in F then cancelling J and rebooking into F if the waitlist clears then yes you can do that. There will likely be some fees associated with that change. If you are talking about booking something like JFK-FRA-SIN and then trying to cancel the FRA-SIN leg or something then that will likely be a non-starter and would require a full redeposit of miles and rebooking etc.
Jul 24, 2018, 7:35 pm
#1577
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 52
Waitlisted saver for two seats in first for LAX-NRT on Saturday April 6, 2019 on the first day I could do it a couple months ago.
Today I got a notice that the time changed as the flight that used to depart at 10AM will depart at 330PM starting 1/1/2019. So I log on and it still lists me as waitlist. Fine...it's 9 months away. Curious I do a search for award tickets and there's two saver available for my flight. So I book them and I'm now confirmed. My separate original reservation never switched out of waitlist and I never received notice to make payment on it.
1 of the 4 seats was taken when I booked. Maybe a revenue sale opened up the saver availability, but so strange that the waitlist meant nothing and I just got lucky by looking.
Regardless, I'm happy.
Today I got a notice that the time changed as the flight that used to depart at 10AM will depart at 330PM starting 1/1/2019. So I log on and it still lists me as waitlist. Fine...it's 9 months away. Curious I do a search for award tickets and there's two saver available for my flight. So I book them and I'm now confirmed. My separate original reservation never switched out of waitlist and I never received notice to make payment on it.
1 of the 4 seats was taken when I booked. Maybe a revenue sale opened up the saver availability, but so strange that the waitlist meant nothing and I just got lucky by looking.
Regardless, I'm happy.
Jul 24, 2018, 7:42 pm
#1578
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: NYC
Programs: Marriott Plat, Hilton Gold, UA Silver
Posts: 2,272
Waitlisted saver for two seats in first for LAX-NRT on Saturday April 6, 2019 on the first day I could do it a couple months ago.
Today I got a notice that the time changed as the flight that used to depart at 10AM will depart at 330PM starting 1/1/2019. So I log on and it still lists me as waitlist. Fine...it's 9 months away. Curious I do a search for award tickets and there's two saver available for my flight. So I book them and I'm now confirmed. My separate original reservation never switched out of waitlist and I never received notice to make payment on it.
1 of the 4 seats was taken when I booked. Maybe a revenue sale opened up the saver availability, but so strange that the waitlist meant nothing and I just got lucky by looking.
Regardless, I'm happy.
Today I got a notice that the time changed as the flight that used to depart at 10AM will depart at 330PM starting 1/1/2019. So I log on and it still lists me as waitlist. Fine...it's 9 months away. Curious I do a search for award tickets and there's two saver available for my flight. So I book them and I'm now confirmed. My separate original reservation never switched out of waitlist and I never received notice to make payment on it.
1 of the 4 seats was taken when I booked. Maybe a revenue sale opened up the saver availability, but so strange that the waitlist meant nothing and I just got lucky by looking.
Regardless, I'm happy.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:16 pm
#1580
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: USA
Posts: 91
Had a late Oct. SQ22 (SIN-EWR) business class waitlisted at saver level a while ago. EF shows Z9 C9 J9 U9 D8 and very empty cabin seat. Today (July 26) an email came saying business class ready for booking!
I don't know if this is a pure coincidence or bears some causality, but I did make a call to SQ and inquire the status of my waitlist. No chaser was requested or mentioned. The agent informed me no saver seat available. Yet 24 hours later the award space opens up.
I don't know if this is a pure coincidence or bears some causality, but I did make a call to SQ and inquire the status of my waitlist. No chaser was requested or mentioned. The agent informed me no saver seat available. Yet 24 hours later the award space opens up.
Jul 26, 2018, 1:30 pm
#1581
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: USA
Posts: 91
Oh well, regarding my post above, it turns out that SQ just released tons of business class award seats. Whether or not it has anything to do with my call, let that remain a mystery. 
Jul 31, 2018, 12:46 pm
#1582
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 4
Hi folks,
Is it possible to get a J to F upgrade using Star Alliance partner points? I'm trying at Star Alliance website but it keeps on showing no availability even thought the cabin is empty.
Is it possible to get a J to F upgrade using Star Alliance partner points? I'm trying at Star Alliance website but it keeps on showing no availability even thought the cabin is empty.
Aug 1, 2018, 1:18 am
#1583
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sydney, Australia
Programs: HH Diamond, Marriott Titanium/LTG, IHG Platinum
Posts: 1,921
I have an AMS-SIN-SYD C waitlist that just cleared, departing in 26 hours.
I have a current Y+ reservation for the same departure.
I dont have enough points in my KF account except the difference between Y+ and C.
Whats the best way to proceed with this?
I have a current Y+ reservation for the same departure.
I dont have enough points in my KF account except the difference between Y+ and C.
Whats the best way to proceed with this?
Aug 2, 2018, 7:27 am
#1584
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: USA
Posts: 91
Another DP regarding SIN-EWR. My second waitlist got cleared this morning. The departure date is Oct 29 and EF shows Z9 C9 J9 U9 D5.
Aug 6, 2018, 8:19 pm
#1585
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Too many now to keep track of
Programs: A handful of shiny cards
Posts: 221
DP: Waitlist for saver J redemption KUL-SIN-PER on 17 AUG cleared yesterday. SIN-PER is zeroed out in all J class fares according to EF.
Aug 8, 2018, 9:07 pm
#1586
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Tokyo
Programs: Marriott Plat, HH G,Hyatt E,*A Gold, OW Emerald.
Posts: 3,023
For example, ANA has these rules (link). From those rules, it is clear that, despite Singapore Airlines [SQ] being on the eligibility list, Awards cannot be used for upgrades to Suites on Singapore Airlines [SQ] operated flights.
So, it really depends on exactly which FFP points you are looking to use, the rules of that FFP. You should ask your question in that FFPs forum, not this SQ KF forum.
Aug 12, 2018, 11:30 am
#1587
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 16
KF desk can see how many (but not the elite status of) passengers on the waitlist. On my bookings (2 PAX waitlisted SAVER on ZRH-SIN new F on 3 separate days), CSR considered the waitlisted pax qty on each PNR to determine which had highest chance of clearing-- and issued chasers on those bookings. She did not consider unsold revenue capacity in advising on which to send chasers on..
Aug 13, 2018, 3:16 am
#1588
Join Date: Dec 2007
Programs: QF,OZ,AC,VB,BA,SQ, EY, QR
Posts: 73
Infrequent KF user here.
Booked my first waitlisted J seat today.
BCN-SIN 03SEP
When I look at EF it shows lots of 'Available' seats.
But as this is only about 3 weeks out, is there any guesstimate, or reasoning as to when or if this would become a confirmed seat? Or is it a complete lottery! (Just thinking if a Plan B - they do have PE available)
Booked my first waitlisted J seat today.
BCN-SIN 03SEP
When I look at EF it shows lots of 'Available' seats.
But as this is only about 3 weeks out, is there any guesstimate, or reasoning as to when or if this would become a confirmed seat? Or is it a complete lottery! (Just thinking if a Plan B - they do have PE available)
Aug 13, 2018, 5:16 am
#1589
Join Date: May 2004
Location: SIN (LEJ once a year)
Programs: SQ, LH, BA, IHG Diamond AMB, HH Gold, SLH Indulged, Accor Gold, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 7,739
Just a data point. Had some SIN-DPS and DPS- SIN savers in Biz waitlisted for 2 pax around Singapore National day week and none cleared.
Not really a surprise, but it was worth a shot. I had secured flights before, but would have liked to travel on a different day / time. Flights we were on were full in Biz (and Eco I assume).
Not really a surprise, but it was worth a shot. I had secured flights before, but would have liked to travel on a different day / time. Flights we were on were full in Biz (and Eco I assume).
Aug 20, 2018, 11:33 pm
#1590
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Anywhere
Posts: 6,576
Waitlisted for this weekend whatever was available because I desperately needed to arrive in London on Sunday.
SQ322 departing Saturday 23:30 in Business just got confirmed. SQ306 departing Sunday 01:10 in Suites still waitlisted.
I would have preferred Suites than Business, but hey it’s peak summer travel period... and last minute beggars can’t be choosers!
What should I do? Wait for SQ306 to confirm? Will they? Can someone help me check the Suites load factor?
Or just bite the bullet, go for SQ322 and “slum” it in Business?
SQ322 departing Saturday 23:30 in Business just got confirmed. SQ306 departing Sunday 01:10 in Suites still waitlisted.
I would have preferred Suites than Business, but hey it’s peak summer travel period... and last minute beggars can’t be choosers!
What should I do? Wait for SQ306 to confirm? Will they? Can someone help me check the Suites load factor?
Or just bite the bullet, go for SQ322 and “slum” it in Business?