Aug 12, 2020, 12:02 am
Last edit by: Adam Smith
You must call in for stopovers, multi-city, or complicated routings, until the new booking system launches in 2021.
I hope others will significantly improve this wiki!
There are four zones: North America (inc Central), South America, Atlantic (including India and Western Russia), Pacific (inc Eastern Russia) and the chart is based which one you start from and which one you end up in, there's ten of these.
Cost is based on distance, which zone pair your flight is in, which class you are flying in.
Partner airlines (again) are a better deal because while Air Canada will calculate cost on a wide ranges but partner airlines are fixed to the bottom of the range.
YQ is eliminated. There's a 39 CAD fee for booking a ticket which contains a flight on a partner airline. Aside from this, there's no incentive any more to book a return flight it seems and every incentive not to.
Note: The partner booking fee is refundable, so it's basically a YQ, rather than a booking fee.
Most flights are devalued. However, the elimination of YQ sweetens this significantly. Within North America, a lot of flights became cheaper, YVR-HNL very significantly. YVR-TYO is much cheaper while YVR-AKL is a little cheaper.
A vastly more powerful booking system is promised for 2021.
There are a lot of new tricks to be learned. https://princeoftravel.com/blog/new-aeroplan-flight-rewards/ is a good start.
Information that is harder to find:
I hope others will significantly improve this wiki!
There are four zones: North America (inc Central), South America, Atlantic (including India and Western Russia), Pacific (inc Eastern Russia) and the chart is based which one you start from and which one you end up in, there's ten of these.
Cost is based on distance, which zone pair your flight is in, which class you are flying in.
Partner airlines (again) are a better deal because while Air Canada will calculate cost on a wide ranges but partner airlines are fixed to the bottom of the range.
YQ is eliminated. There's a 39 CAD fee for booking a ticket which contains a flight on a partner airline. Aside from this, there's no incentive any more to book a return flight it seems and every incentive not to.
Note: The partner booking fee is refundable, so it's basically a YQ, rather than a booking fee.
Most flights are devalued. However, the elimination of YQ sweetens this significantly. Within North America, a lot of flights became cheaper, YVR-HNL very significantly. YVR-TYO is much cheaper while YVR-AKL is a little cheaper.
A vastly more powerful booking system is promised for 2021.
There are a lot of new tricks to be learned. https://princeoftravel.com/blog/new-aeroplan-flight-rewards/ is a good start.
Information that is harder to find:
- SE IKK redemption from the old program can be changed ("within reason") without repricing. Dates, routings, no problem. Origin/destination should be fine. But nothing that would have required a repricing under the old program. This is from Mark Nasr in https://www.facebook.com/pointsmiles...44878252851420
- The "Activity" page only shows you the most recent ~48 transactions. See this post for information on how to get older data.
- A partial refund may not be possible (e.g. if you book RT and outbound flight is cancelled by you or AC, to delete the first flight segment, you have to cancel the entire ticket and rebook the inbound at a potentially higher fare. It seems supervisor can grant exceptions.)
2020 Air Canada Aeroplan Program
Jul 15, 2021 | 10:29 am
#1486
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: YVR
Programs: AC*SE-MM, FB Platinum, BA Silver, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott lifetime Platinum, Hertz PC
Posts: 1,872
Jul 16, 2021 | 4:46 pm
#1487
Moderator, Air Canada; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: YYC
Programs: AC SE MM, FB Plat, WS Plat, BA Silver, Marriott Plat, Hilton Gold, Accor Gold
Posts: 18,942
In the spirit of reducing the size of this thread and moving towards retiring it, a few posts on using the digital lounge passes have been moved from this thread to a dedicated new thread.
Using the new digital MLL passes - information & experiences (2021 onwards)
Adam Smith
AC Forum Co-Moderator
Using the new digital MLL passes - information & experiences (2021 onwards)
Adam Smith
AC Forum Co-Moderator
Jul 17, 2021 | 4:14 pm
#1488
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Per Mark Nasr, it looks like status is going to be changed to expire Jan ~15, or some other mechanism so if you drop down, it doesn't happen in the middle of a winter trip.
Jul 19, 2021 | 1:56 pm
#1489
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: CEB - primary/YVR -secondary
Programs: AC*Super Elite Million Miler/ AY*Gold (OWS) / SPG*Bonvoy Titanium for Life(LTT)
Posts: 2,382
Guys,
Just to clarify, I can cancel my aeroplan reward up to 2 hours prior to departure right without any penalties? Like I will get all my points back if I cancel more than 2h before my flight?
I'm SE btw, so no $ penalty as well?
Thanks!
Just to clarify, I can cancel my aeroplan reward up to 2 hours prior to departure right without any penalties? Like I will get all my points back if I cancel more than 2h before my flight?
I'm SE btw, so no $ penalty as well?
Thanks!
Jul 19, 2021 | 2:06 pm
#1491
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: CEB - primary/YVR -secondary
Programs: AC*Super Elite Million Miler/ AY*Gold (OWS) / SPG*Bonvoy Titanium for Life(LTT)
Posts: 2,382
Jul 19, 2021 | 6:34 pm
#1492
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,871
It's funny, I searched SFO-YYZ for aug/sep just like I did with LAX-YYZ, nothing came up. everything is priced at higher mileage costs. Nothing at 25000 miles range. Maybe you found one that's out of hundreds of flights. It's not possible for me to search every single day. I believe it must be priced at 25000 in order to be available at partner airlines.
Jul 19, 2021 | 7:02 pm
#1493
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Join Date: Feb 2015
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Posts: 18,942
A number of posts regarding earning miles on AC flights booked through United have been moved to a dedicated thread:
Earning SQM on AC flights booked through UA
Adam Smith
AC Forum Co-Moderator
Earning SQM on AC flights booked through UA
Adam Smith
AC Forum Co-Moderator
Jul 23, 2021 | 5:11 pm
#1494
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: MEX
Programs: AC E75K
Posts: 4,391
No Award Availability under New Program?
Pardon me if this is a dumb question but like many, I haven't flown much since the new program launched so haven't followed its intricacies that closely. From what I did glean around the program launch last year, I thought that one of the features of the new program is that it would provide access to all seat inventory, regardless of fare class, just priced accordingly?
This does not appear to be the case. See YYZ-BER on 7/28 as an example:
This is what I see when searching for $-paid tickets:
Is this because the 'access to all inventory' feature only applies to AC operated flights? And in this case, LH/SN/whoever else are just not making any award seats available in J or Y for the European leg?
This does not appear to be the case. See YYZ-BER on 7/28 as an example:
This is what I see when searching for $-paid tickets:
Is this because the 'access to all inventory' feature only applies to AC operated flights? And in this case, LH/SN/whoever else are just not making any award seats available in J or Y for the European leg?
Jul 23, 2021 | 5:50 pm
#1495
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And in this case, LH/SN/whoever else are just not making any award seats available in J or Y for the European leg?
Jul 24, 2021 | 8:11 am
#1497
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 25
Booking Reward Travel - Million Miles Flyer
Since we have been unable to travel for the past year, I have not paid much attention to the changes in the New Aeroplan program. So now, as I dip my toes back into travel, I am trying to figure out what I can do and what I can't do anymore. For background, I am a Million Miler with the standard benefits (lifetime E50, 3 free bags etc.)
When I go to book reward travel, I see that I have options in the 3 fare classes (Standard, Flex, Latitude). Since I have 3 free bags, free cancelation is there any reason why I would book a fare other than Standard? Unless, I do not get free seat selection with E50?
Thanks!
When I go to book reward travel, I see that I have options in the 3 fare classes (Standard, Flex, Latitude). Since I have 3 free bags, free cancelation is there any reason why I would book a fare other than Standard? Unless, I do not get free seat selection with E50?
Thanks!
Jul 24, 2021 | 8:42 am
#1498
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: YOW
Programs: AC SE, FOTSG Platinum
Posts: 6,551
More details on that here, at a blog to which I contribute: https://www.flyermiles.ca/post/the-latitude-trick
Jul 24, 2021 | 11:14 am
#1499
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And you'd need Flex or better to take advantage of free preferred seats as 50K. There are definitely still differences.
Jul 25, 2021 | 1:38 am
#1500
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: YYZ/LHR/SFO/SIN
Programs: AC SE100K
Posts: 338
If I cancel a reward booking, are the points redeposited immediately?
Also, what if I’m booked on two legs, with the first leg on another carrier, eg FCO-FRA on LH, and then FRA-YYZ on AC, and I want to change to FRA-YYZ on LH when that opens up, but at the time I want to make the change FCO-FRA is now I0, X0? Can I modify the booking or do I have to cancel and risk losing FCO-FRA?
And just so that I understand this correctly, as an SE is there no advantage to a business flexible reward booking?
Also, what if I’m booked on two legs, with the first leg on another carrier, eg FCO-FRA on LH, and then FRA-YYZ on AC, and I want to change to FRA-YYZ on LH when that opens up, but at the time I want to make the change FCO-FRA is now I0, X0? Can I modify the booking or do I have to cancel and risk losing FCO-FRA?
And just so that I understand this correctly, as an SE is there no advantage to a business flexible reward booking?
Last edited by pilot007; Jul 25, 2021 at 1:49 am