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DaTaco May 12, 2023 1:34 pm


Originally Posted by SusanDK (Post 35244696)
It was sitting at $500 from about 2-3 months out, then at a month before the flight it dropped to $300. The days leading up to the flight I could see that there were only a couple of seats available, so I bid $400 but we lost. It was considered a 'medium' bid, whereas $350 was a 'weak' bid. They didn't process the upgrades until very late (sometime while we were in transit on our connecting flight). I wish I had bid higher, but I don't know how they weight EuroBonus elites vs. non-elites, e.g. an EB Diamond may still win the bid with a lower value than us.

Interesting, I'm 2 month 15ish days out and it's still $790. I'm trying to debate what price point it's worth it for me, I'm thinking it's less then 800 but more then 400. Yeah I'm a non-status as well.. so I guess I should keep that in mind. I haven't flown with SAS before so I don't really know how their premium seating is vs their business is.

What did you use for finding out how many seats were available?

lensovet May 13, 2023 9:02 pm


Originally Posted by oliver2002 (Post 35163242)
Result of my painful self experiment: SK does a reseating in the DCS (similar to airport cash upgrades) and doesn't touch the original booking class of the ticket. So I got the usual amount of status miles with M&M for the original booking class (Q) but a seat in Plus. I made the mistake of checking in with LH for MUC-ARN-LLA before the bid cleared, so it wouldn't generate a boarding pass citing a cryptic message (due to a special service request associated with your booking you are requested to contact ground staff at the airport for assistance). The agent in MUC taking my luggage just mentioned 'you got reseated' and printed the boarding passes.

In the end it was a waste of 3000 points but they were expiring in June anyways ;)

Thanks, this confirms also what SAS says on their website: https://www.flysas.com/us-en/legal-i...s/sas-upgrade/ 4.11 states you will earn points based on the original booking class.

Btw, this is not entirely bad. LH will usually upgrade you into P class which doesn't earn anything on lots of *A partners. With the way SAS does it, you don't have to second-guess what your earnings are going to be when upgrading.

SusanDK May 14, 2023 2:46 am


Originally Posted by DaTaco (Post 35245221)
Interesting, I'm 2 month 15ish days out and it's still $790. I'm trying to debate what price point it's worth it for me, I'm thinking it's less then 800 but more then 400. Yeah I'm a non-status as well.. so I guess I should keep that in mind. I haven't flown with SAS before so I don't really know how their premium seating is vs their business is.

What did you use for finding out how many seats were available?

I use ExpertFlyer.com to keep an eye on the seat map status, as well as how many tickets per booking class are still being sold. You don't need to rush in a bid. I don't think they base anything on who has bid earlier, only on the amount of the bid and EB status. I would wait until you are a month out and see if it drops at that time, then start monitoring as you get closer to the day of travel. You can easily update your bid anytime. I originally bid $325, then raised it twice before I settled on $400 a few days before the flight. My return trip (CPH-IAD) also dropped to $300 right at a month prior to the day of travel. I currently have a bid of $350 posted which is stated to be a 'weak bid' but there are still 19 unclaimed seats and they are still selling in C. I will adjust the bid as it gets closer to improve our chances based on how full the flight is as we get closer.

Re: premium seating vs business, I find the SAS premium economy to be one of the better of this class I've flown in. Admittedly, however, not a huge sample. It's better, IMO, than premium economy on Virgin, Lufthansa, United, Delta and Icelandair. Not as good as the PE on the Norwegian 787 Dreamliners before they stopped flying TATL (these had much greater pitch). If you don't need to sleep, SAS PE is fine for this flight. IAD-CPH was 7 hours 40 minutes, departing at 5:30 pm, so you arrive at the equivalent of 1:15 am EST (7:15 am local time). Unless you're desperate to get sleep, it's a fine seat to sit up all night and watch movies (great screens, 110 v. power at seat, decent food IMO, and you get fast track / lounge access in CPH).

Of course, it's all personal opinion on how you value the comfort of an 8 hour flight vs. cost. When I booked the tickets, C was ca. $8,500 return vs. $2,200 return in PE per person for our dates so there was no question. I was not going to purchase C, but I don't mind bidding up to ca. $500 each way to upgrade. My husband would not value this as he thinks we can survive the 8 hours in PE (luckily I'm in charge of arranging the flights, so I'll still do the bidding and he does enjoy the comfort when we get it).

Good luck!

Nick Art May 15, 2023 7:27 am

Minimum bid on OSL-EWR and EWR-OSL from Economy to Business is 400 USD or 32000 Points each.

Put in a minimum cash bid and let's see how this goes. :)

lensovet May 16, 2023 12:06 am

Minimum bid on my EWR-CPH flight was $300. Put in $326 for two seats, both cleared 15 minutes after checkin opened.

seat map showed 7 open seats 19 hours prior to departure. Currently showing 5 open seats with 15 hours to go.

SuperFlyBoy May 16, 2023 12:42 am


Originally Posted by lensovet (Post 35253111)
Minimum bid on my EWR-CPH flight was $300. Put in $326 for two seats, both cleared 15 minutes after checkin opened.

seat map showed 7 open seats 19 hours prior to departure. Currently showing 5 open seats with 15 hours to go.

From which class of service?

Economy or PE?

lensovet May 16, 2023 11:07 pm


Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy (Post 35253152)
From which class of service?

Economy or PE?

from PE to J.

The real bummer is that when booked this was supposed to be a shiny new A350 and instead we got a somewhat tired 330.

Ride525 May 17, 2023 1:58 pm

Tomorrow SFO - CPH, PE to Business
 
Flying tomorrow, SFO to CPH, Two of us have Premium Economy, trying to get Business. Minimum bid is $300. I bid for just over $500. Not sure going to get it, on ExpertFlyer, went from three pairs of seats available, to five blocked, and one taken.
What does SAS block seats for? Becaue they are taken by reservations, but not selected by the flyer yet.

What are my chances, we are still about 31 hours before departure time tomorrow?

Thanks for your thoughts

EDIT: Called SAS, since I was confused about Check-In times. I read that check in is 30 hours, except for flights TO the US. So, since my flight tomorrow is FROM US, (CPH), then I thought 30 hours. SAS said I was right, check in should be 30 hours, and he wasn't sure why I could not check. So, I asked question about Business Upgrade, he said there were 10 seats empty on Business. So, if that is true (ExpertFlyer says seven seats available or blocked), then maybe my chance are good. Stay stuned.

DCAData May 18, 2023 12:34 pm

IAD-CPH Sunday PM and have a minimum bid from Go-PE. Application now saying by bid is below minimum. ExpertFlyer shows one seat, but SAS shows 6 left for dummy booking. Trying to figure out if I up the min bid or if this is just SAS trying to juice the bidding process. No email saying bid cancelled. Would welcome any thoughts. Saw a situation like this a couple of pages back but looks like the user switched tactics/classes instead.

Ride525 May 18, 2023 3:36 pm


Originally Posted by DCAData (Post 35260634)
IAD-CPH Sunday PM and have a minimum bid from Go-PE. Application now saying by bid is below minimum. ExpertFlyer shows one seat, but SAS shows 6 left for dummy booking. Trying to figure out if I up the min bid or if this is just SAS trying to juice the bidding process. No email saying bid cancelled. Would welcome any thoughts. Saw a situation like this a couple of pages back but looks like the user switched tactics/classes instead.

This happend to us, I think, but for the return trip. We are flying today, SFO to CPH. The minimum bid remained at $300.
But for the return trip in 12 days, minimum bid went from $300 to $500. When I discovered this, I redid my bid to be over $300.
I'm not sure what SAS will do with bid below minimum. You might call SAS, I had good luck talking with the yesterday.

Ride525 May 18, 2023 3:59 pm


Originally Posted by DCAData (Post 35260634)
IAD-CPH Sunday PM and have a minimum bid from Go-PE. Application now saying by bid is below minimum. ExpertFlyer shows one seat, but SAS shows 6 left for dummy booking. Trying to figure out if I up the min bid or if this is just SAS trying to juice the bidding process. No email saying bid cancelled. Would welcome any thoughts. Saw a situation like this a couple of pages back but looks like the user switched tactics/classes instead.

Flying SFO to CPH today. Minimum bid was $300, and it remained that. I bid $516, it was near the bottom of STRONG bid, but we still did not get the upgrade frrom PE to Business. One return trip from CPH to SFO, the minimum did change from $300 to $500. I don't know what SAS will do with a bid the is now below the minimum, so I raised my bid above the minimum.

hotelmotel May 19, 2023 10:22 am

Glad I found this thread! Really helpful info.

Flight in 3 weeks, JFK-CPH. Current min. from Y is 150 EUR to PE and 420 EUR to J. ExpertFlyer shows 18 seats available in J and over 30 in PE. Not sure what I will do yet.

Is there actual flight-specific logic that goes into the weak/medium/strong categorization? Medium was exactly 20% over minimum for both PE and J. They were very close for Strong, too. (65% over min for PE and 70% over min for J)

gojko88 May 19, 2023 10:28 am


Originally Posted by hotelmotel (Post 35262876)
Is there actual flight-specific logic that goes into the weak/medium/strong categorization?

No, it's just a marketing gimmick based on % of the range on which you can bid.

Ride525 May 19, 2023 11:18 pm

Did not get SFO - CPH bid
 
Flew SFO-CPH Thursday. Minimum bid was $300. We bid $516 each, which was near the bottom of a strong bid. Did not win.
SAS tells us that flying out of US to Europe is more competitive.

But that does not explain why return in 10 days had minimum raised from $300 to $500 about a month out.

SusanDK May 20, 2023 12:05 am


Originally Posted by Ride525 (Post 35264227)

But that does not explain why return in 10 days had minimum raised from $300 to $500 about a month out.

I have a CPH-IAD flight coming up in less than a month. PE to C was $500 until exactly 30 days prior to flight, then dropped to $300. In the few days it went back up to $500 and has held there despite there being 19 open seats in C. I wonder if they've recently decided to increase the floor bid to $500 regardless of capacity. I'm still a couple weeks out so will keep checking.


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