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SusanDK Apr 18, 2023 1:42 pm


Originally Posted by arollins (Post 35177957)
The increase in minimum bid for upgrade is not related to the change in FF, but more of a relation on capacity for the flight. If you read on prior posts, you will see how there are many reports indicating how the minimum bid went up/down as you get closer to departure time. It seems you are about a month away for flight, it might go up again. As for SK not notifying you, not sure what to say,

Thanks - I will keep an eye on it but it's not looking good. Several more C seats are gone and I just noticed that they also moved us in Plus so that we are no longer seated together, and Plus is fully booked.

We booked in late January with seats selected - aisle/window sitting together. They've moved us to two aisle seat across the aisle from one another. Not that we have to be next to each other - we don't sit and talk much on the flight, usually read and watch movies on our own. But it's more comfortable to share an armrest with one's spouse when sitting close together, needing to get up and down, etc. The way we are now seated, we will both have strangers next to us who will need us to get up to let them out each time they need to get up. It wasn't a cheap flight ($2200 per person RT) and scheduled in good time to be seated together. Not sure if anything can be done now.

jope_taco Apr 30, 2023 4:11 pm


Originally Posted by SK AAR (Post 35173714)
If the flight has no availability is C there is unlikely to be seats in C to upgrade to. Unless of course availability will open up closer to departure (which is often the case even on overbooked flights) so I suggest to keep monitoring the availability.

As most likely other pax have submitted offers to upgrade, I would say that your chance of getting an op-upg. is extremely low in this situation.

SK 907 changed to A321 from 13 April and SAS is pretty good at proactively dealing with potential overbooking situations, i.e. contacting select pax in advance about rebooking etc so most likely your flight will not be (significantly) overbooked and depart without drama at the gate. You are likely to travel exactly as you booked, in PE.

Given the 25% open seats in Biz, I continue to believe that they upgraded a number of the Plus passengers on SK908 to deal with the overfull Plus cabin (some of whom may, of course, have placed a bid and therefore not count as op-ups). However, this was not something that we got to observe or investigate up-close, as SK reached out 36 hours before departure and re-booked us on an "equivalent" itinerary via CPH, given that OSL was not our final destination. SK910 itself was already completely full in Business and after our re-booking became completely full in Plus as well. The A350 and the warm croissants in the CPH lounge were also an upgrade of sorts :)

SK AAR May 1, 2023 1:21 am

Interesting and thank you for reporting back. It confirms what I stated above that SK will proactively deal with overbooking situations by contacting select pax in advance about rebooking.
Did SAS offer you something to accept rebooking via CPH?

jope_taco May 1, 2023 3:37 pm


Originally Posted by SK AAR (Post 35214885)
Interesting and thank you for reporting back. It confirms what I stated above that SK will proactively deal with overbooking situations by contacting select pax in advance about rebooking.
Did SAS offer you something to accept rebooking via CPH?

No. Within 30 minutes of receiving the automated rebooking email from SAS, my OTA (Chase) called to inform me of the change and to collect my consent. The 1h20min earlier departure time of SK910 was a slight inconvenience, but the new itinerary also had us at the final destination a half-hour earlier, so I viewed it as a like-for-like swap. The >1h change in departure time might have been grounds to request other routing options, but since I needed the trip to be on *A and could not come up with any better options, this was not something I pursued (in hindsight, it would have been interesting to experience an OTA negotiating my re-routing the day before departure).

mball May 1, 2023 4:31 pm

SK936 SFO-CPH - $375 was a failed bid.
36 hours ago there were 16/32 seats open in Business.
at checkin time, they were mostly full and I changed my $320 upgrade bid to $375.
T-6 hours and it was officially rejected .

I originally booked PE on an A card, and am crediting OZ where I currently have *A silver for what it’s worth.

I’ll update this post when I have my return flight, and on my second trip later this month, though that flight looks more full.

Huh, I just noticed that my Amex Card has a pending charge for $375 and a pending refund for $375...I wonder if they attempted an upgrade and something failed? Oddly enough, I noticed something similar with EVA couple of months ago, but I think my CC (A Mastercard then...) actually tried to reject the charge as suspicious.

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More DPs:
SK935, CPH-SFO May 15: PE to Business $303 at checkin, bumped to $370 a few hours later. Rejected.

SK AAR May 2, 2023 12:51 am


Originally Posted by jope_taco (Post 35216511)
No. Within 30 minutes of receiving the automated rebooking email from SAS, my OTA (Chase) called to inform me of the change and to collect my consent. The 1h20min earlier departure time of SK910 was a slight inconvenience, but the new itinerary also had us at the final destination a half-hour earlier, so I viewed it as a like-for-like swap. The >1h change in departure time might have been grounds to request other routing options, but since I needed the trip to be on *A and could not come up with any better options, this was not something I pursued (in hindsight, it would have been interesting to experience an OTA negotiating my re-routing the day before departure).

Noted. I doubt SAS (via Chase) would have allowed rerouting to other carrier in a situation where there was almost perfect alternative on SAS. Even during IRROPS SAS have turned out to be reluctant to rebook OAL, at least at outstations.

noiretnoir May 5, 2023 8:44 am

Do you have the option to bid to next class if booking on award ticket or is it only cash ticket? Looking to book a Premium Econ seat, but would consider paying cash to upgrade via bid to biz.

CPH-Flyer May 7, 2023 6:37 am

I made a bid with about 15 hours to go for a CPH LHR fligt, minimum bid was 430 DKK, and since I will need to be a bit mindful of qualification this year, it seemed a fair price for 500 basis points. Though the incentive did post as 625 basis points, the EBG/D/P 25% bonus also applies here. So yes, it did clear at 430 DKK.

On a side note to a flight I took yesterday, I have to see if the bonus for booking the Bio fare also gets 25% bonus.

SkOrdBgo May 7, 2023 7:38 pm

US$325 accepted for plus to business ORD-CPH. Cleared t-24 h. According to gate agent the standard charges for plus to business is 35k EB points or $599.

eksf26 May 7, 2023 11:05 pm

Did you check to see how many seats in bus were free the day prior to the bid approval deadline?





Originally Posted by patrickSWE (Post 35163691)
SK 932 Los Angeles, CA LAX Copenhagen CPH 03 Mar 2023 25000 EuroBonus points per passenger (2) SASBUSINESS

SK 931 Copenhagen CPH Los Angeles, CA LAX 24 Feb 2023 17500 EuroBonus points per passenger (2) SAS PLUS

Bid over lowest EB points offer but no success.

I think it was 15 000/ person on the outbound flight and 20k or 25k on the homebound flight.

BR


SK AAR May 8, 2023 12:42 am


Originally Posted by SkOrdBgo (Post 35231757)
US$325 accepted for plus to business ORD-CPH. Cleared t-24 h. According to gate agent the standard charges for plus to business is 35k EB points or $599.

That is a very good price for SAS Plus to SAS Business (from the US).

SusanDK May 8, 2023 11:55 am

Is there a strategy, eg. best timing, to keep an eye on the seat map to try to adjust seat assignments?

Current situation is that we are in PE with a bid in for upgrade (bid $400 against a minimum of $300) for IAD-CPH. There are currently 4 unassigned seats in C and they show they still have at least 2 seats for sale (previously it was zeroed out). I'm bidding so much because there are so few seats and we have no status and it says status will be prioritized, so hoping the higher bid will prevail.

If we don't get the upgrade, my theory is that possibly some of those currently in PE will be upgraded, so suddenly a better PE seat might become open (we are currently seated in two aisle seats, one behind the other, and would like a window/aisle pair). PE is currently full, all seats assigned.

Somewhere I read (and can't find anymore) that people without a seat assignment can select seats 30 hours in advance, but upgrades are not processed until max. 25 hours in advance. If nothing happens within 24 hours of the flight, should I do OLCI or is it better not to do OLCI if the upgrade is still pending (I've neither received a yay or nay)? I have a UA connecting flight that precedes the SK flight, so check-in for my itinerary begins much earlier than I think the upgrades will be processed.

kidrons May 8, 2023 3:18 pm


Originally Posted by noiretnoir (Post 35226306)
Do you have the option to bid to next class if booking on award ticket or is it only cash ticket? Looking to book a Premium Econ seat, but would consider paying cash to upgrade via bid to biz.

Yes, I just placed a bid on an award booking in cash

DaTaco May 11, 2023 6:50 pm


Originally Posted by SusanDK (Post 35233559)
Is there a strategy, eg. best timing, to keep an eye on the seat map to try to adjust seat assignments?

Current situation is that we are in PE with a bid in for upgrade (bid $400 against a minimum of $300) for IAD-CPH. There are currently 4 unassigned seats in C and they show they still have at least 2 seats for sale (previously it was zeroed out). I'm bidding so much because there are so few seats and we have no status and it says status will be prioritized, so hoping the higher bid will prevail.

If we don't get the upgrade, my theory is that possibly some of those currently in PE will be upgraded, so suddenly a better PE seat might become open (we are currently seated in two aisle seats, one behind the other, and would like a window/aisle pair). PE is currently full, all seats assigned.

Somewhere I read (and can't find anymore) that people without a seat assignment can select seats 30 hours in advance, but upgrades are not processed until max. 25 hours in advance. If nothing happens within 24 hours of the flight, should I do OLCI or is it better not to do OLCI if the upgrade is still pending (I've neither received a yay or nay)? I have a UA connecting flight that precedes the SK flight, so check-in for my itinerary begins much earlier than I think the upgrades will be processed.

I'm very curious how yours turned out. I'm on the same flight path (IAD -> CPH) and the current asking bid is 790, which is a bit high I think. When did yours go down?

SusanDK May 12, 2023 9:41 am


Originally Posted by DaTaco (Post 35243232)
I'm very curious how yours turned out. I'm on the same flight path (IAD -> CPH) and the current asking bid is 790, which is a bit high I think. When did yours go down?

It was sitting at $500 from about 2-3 months out, then at a month before the flight it dropped to $300. The days leading up to the flight I could see that there were only a couple of seats available, so I bid $400 but we lost. It was considered a 'medium' bid, whereas $350 was a 'weak' bid. They didn't process the upgrades until very late (sometime while we were in transit on our connecting flight). I wish I had bid higher, but I don't know how they weight EuroBonus elites vs. non-elites, e.g. an EB Diamond may still win the bid with a lower value than us.


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