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CPH-Flyer Apr 12, 2023 2:11 am


Originally Posted by oliver2002 (Post 35163242)
Result of my painful self experiment: SK does a reseating in the DCS (similar to airport cash upgrades) and doesn't touch the original booking class of the ticket. So I got the usual amount of status miles with M&M for the original booking class (Q) but a seat in Plus. I made the mistake of checking in with LH for MUC-ARN-LLA before the bid cleared, so it wouldn't generate a boarding pass citing a cryptic message (due to a special service request associated with your booking you are requested to contact ground staff at the airport for assistance). The agent in MUC taking my luggage just mentioned 'you got reseated' and printed the boarding passes.

In the end it was a waste of 3000 points but they were expiring in June anyways ;)

Very interesting to know. Thank you for taking one for the SK forum team. A drink on me should you stop by Tokyo. :)

patrickSWE Apr 12, 2023 6:39 am

SK 932 Los Angeles, CA LAX Copenhagen CPH 03 Mar 2023 25000 EuroBonus points per passenger (2) SASBUSINESS

SK 931 Copenhagen CPH Los Angeles, CA LAX 24 Feb 2023 17500 EuroBonus points per passenger (2) SAS PLUS

Bid over lowest EB points offer but no success.

I think it was 15 000/ person on the outbound flight and 20k or 25k on the homebound flight.

BR

thatmikereed Apr 12, 2023 1:16 pm

ORD-ARN Apr. 12, 4 PM. SAS Plus to J, won at $325 each. Minimum bid was $300, roughly 10 J open on the seat map and C/D9 on Expertflyer.

Plus fare as booked was $550 r/t, so if the same bid holds coming back we’ll be at $1200 r/t in J. Not sure if we’ll do it coming back since it’s a day flight. Was a no brainer for an overnight.

We’re crediting to AC, which will give us enough for one domestic flight.

GUWonder Apr 13, 2023 6:05 am


Originally Posted by oliver2002 (Post 35163242)
Result of my painful self experiment: SK does a reseating in the DCS (similar to airport cash upgrades) and doesn't touch the original booking class of the ticket. So I got the usual amount of status miles with M&M for the original booking class (Q) but a seat in Plus. I made the mistake of checking in with LH for MUC-ARN-LLA before the bid cleared, so it wouldn't generate a boarding pass citing a cryptic message (due to a special service request associated with your booking you are requested to contact ground staff at the airport for assistance). The agent in MUC taking my luggage just mentioned 'you got reseated' and printed the boarding passes.

In the end it was a waste of 3000 points but they were expiring in June anyways ;)

It was the same sort of thing last year for me too.

Did those printed boarding passes each have two classes showing on them?

The paid-upgrade boarding passes issued by the SK ticket counter at ARN for me last year (on intra-Schengen flights) even showed two booking classes, one in regular font size and another in a smaller size (as either a subscript or superscript). I only got the original booking class miles credited (to my non-SK accounts) for the paid upgrade SK flights at around this time last year and later. [Reminds me that I have a bunch of EC 261/2004 claims to file against SK for those paid upgrade flights. :D ]

SK AAR Apr 13, 2023 6:34 am

That mirrors my experience. In February I upgraded a cheap T class SK ticket to PE for the MIA-CPH segment (won 15,000 points bid) and apparently the booking class was not changed as I didn't earn any miles with TK M&S (SAS T class is not eligible for mileage accrual with TK M&S)

SK AAR Apr 13, 2023 6:39 am


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 35166474)

Did those printed boarding passes each have two classes showing on them?

The paid-upgrade boarding passes issued by the SK ticket counter at ARN for me last year (on intra-Schengen flights) even showed two booking classes, one in regular font size and another in a smaller size (as either a subscript or superscript). ]

Yes, they normally do with SAS: The smaller sized letter reflects the booking class whereas the large/regular font letter reflects the cabin/service class.

oliver2002 Apr 13, 2023 8:05 am

I had big C with a small Q. As discussed in the other thread the first big letter is the service class, the second the booking/RBD class.

jope_taco Apr 15, 2023 5:05 pm

I am flying EWR-OSL in Plus in the near future. At the time of booking, the flight was operated by an A330, but it has now downsized to the A321. All twelve seats in the small Plus cabin are taken, and our party of two currently do not have a seat assignment. According to the blog link in this thread some 1/4 to 1/3 of the Business seats remain unassigned. Plus and Business are zeroed out (no seats for sale).

It seems clear that there will be at least a couple of op-ups, but I doubt there are enough C seats to accommodate the entire swathe of Y flyers. Does anyone have first-hand experience with how these situations are handled?

If there's a 50-50 chance of an op-up, I'm thinking I'll abstain from bidding. Just trying to gauge whether there is downside risk to not bidding. For instance, might involuntary downgrades to M class be a risk to contemplate? (If so, I wonder what type of compensation, or support for alternative travel options, to expect.)

CPH-Flyer Apr 15, 2023 7:20 pm


Originally Posted by jope_taco (Post 35172949)
I am flying EWR-OSL in Plus in the near future. At the time of booking, the flight was operated by an A330, but it has now downsized to the A321. All twelve seats in the small Plus cabin are taken, and our party of two currently do not have a seat assignment. According to the blog link in this thread some 1/4 to 1/3 of the Business seats remain unassigned. Plus and Business are zeroed out (no seats for sale).

It seems clear that there will be at least a couple of op-ups, but I doubt there are enough C seats to accommodate the entire swathe of Y flyers. Does anyone have first-hand experience with how these situations are handled?

If there's a 50-50 chance of an op-up, I'm thinking I'll abstain from bidding. Just trying to gauge whether there is downside risk to not bidding. For instance, might involuntary downgrades to M class be a risk to contemplate? (If so, I wonder what type of compensation, or support for alternative travel options, to expect.)

I guess that SK is hoping for the Y overbooking to clear partially or fully via bids. Which could mean that any bid will clear. The question is of course how many bids vs. needed upgrades.... If they end up overbooked in both J and Y, I imagine they would try to offer a reroute via CPH or ARN in the same class before downgrading to M.

The challenge might also be with the change from A330 to A321 that Y is not that widely open either....

SK AAR Apr 16, 2023 2:40 am


Originally Posted by jope_taco (Post 35172949)
It seems clear that there will be at least a couple of op-ups, but I doubt there are enough C seats to accommodate the entire swathe of Y flyers.

If the flight has no availability is C there is unlikely to be seats in C to upgrade to. Unless of course availability will open up closer to departure (which is often the case even on overbooked flights) so I suggest to keep monitoring the availability.

As most likely other pax have submitted offers to upgrade, I would say that your chance of getting an op-upg. is extremely low in this situation.

SK 907 changed to A321 from 13 April and SAS is pretty good at proactively dealing with potential overbooking situations, i.e. contacting select pax in advance about rebooking etc so most likely your flight will not be (significantly) overbooked and depart without drama at the gate. You are likely to travel exactly as you booked, in PE.

SusanDK Apr 16, 2023 2:20 pm

Flying MCO-IAD-CPH on a ticket booked directly with SAS, currently reflected in my EuroBonus account and for which I've bid to upgrade from PE to Business. I have no status on SK, just a general member.

I would like to change my FF number on the itinerary to UA, both to have miles credited to UA as well as to be able to select free E+ seating as a UA elite.

Any consequence or jeopardy to my SK bid-for-upgrade on the IAD-CPH leg if I change to my UA FF number?

arollins Apr 16, 2023 6:52 pm


Originally Posted by SusanDK (Post 35175107)
Flying MCO-IAD-CPH on a ticket booked directly with SAS, currently reflected in my EuroBonus account and for which I've bid to upgrade from PE to Business. I have no status on SK, just a general member.

I would like to change my FF number on the itinerary to UA, both to have miles credited to UA as well as to be able to select free E+ seating as a UA elite.

Any consequence or jeopardy to my SK bid-for-upgrade on the IAD-CPH leg if I change to my UA FF number?

No, good luck on the upgrade.

SusanDK Apr 16, 2023 8:15 pm

A couple of weeks ago, the minimum bid for my IAD-CPH trip was $300. I set up a bid for $325. Today, I changed my FF number from SK to UA. I wanted to make sure my bid was still in the system, but it has disappeared and now the minimum bid is $500!

Is it because I changed from SK to UA in FF numbers that the bid went up, or does it sometimes jump up as the flight gets closer and starts to fill up a bit more? I'm in Plus (PremEcon) and bidding for Business. Plus is sold out with -0- for sale and all seats assigned. There are still 8 unassigned seats in C. Flight is mid-May.

Shouldn't they have sent an email to tell me that my bid was no longer valid? It was by chance that I checked on it and saw it had been deleted and the minimum bid had increased.

nk15 Apr 16, 2023 8:33 pm

Either way they are telling you that you won’t get that seat for $325.

arollins Apr 17, 2023 12:50 pm

The increase in minimum bid for upgrade is not related to the change in FF, but more of a relation on capacity for the flight. If you read on prior posts, you will see how there are many reports indicating how the minimum bid went up/down as you get closer to departure time. It seems you are about a month away for flight, it might go up again. As for SK not notifying you, not sure what to say,


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