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Qatar have confirmed the presence of a policy whereby if a customer booked a QSuites flight and subsequently gets an aircraft type swap can you request travel on an alternative flight, subject to availability, see post #2709 Previously this included change of routing, now it only includes changing the date on the same routing. QR issued tickets only!
Qatar Airways confirms new business class seatA video of the new Q Suite can be seen here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yhZDsctiZg
Photos of the new Q Suite can be seen here - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28007634-post109.html
From TGFlyerGirl:
there are some quite complex rules entries around seat selection - but in essence, solo travellers as a guideline won't be assigned QUADS (they are blocked off), and it's generally for 3/4 pax families. Once a QUAD has been broken up (out of necessity - for example with a couple in the E/F seats), then the rest of the quad is unlocked and can be filled with individual travellers.
They've also made 1A/2B last offered to allow airport flexibility to handle last minute requests. The other 18 windows and aisles are free for reservation as per the normal process.
The bassinet position is 11B/J (77W) and 8B/J (A359), reduced mobility seats are 2/4/6/9 B and J.
All A/E/F/K's are backward facing, all B,D,G,J's are forward facing. Total 20 Forward/22 Backward.
Capacity:
77W: J42/Y312
High density 77W: J24/Y388
77L: J42/Y230
35K: J46/Y281
359: J36/Y247
Which routes have Qsuites?
Details and changes can be found in the various recent threads.
As to other routes NO ONE KNOWS!
I repeat NO ONE KNOWS!! so do not ask!
What aircraft are fitted with Qsuites?
Updated information as to which aircraft are fitted with Qsuites is in the Wiki in the The Complete Guide to the Qatar Airways Fleet thread.
38/48 77W: 79%
10/38 359: 26%
7/9 77L: 78%
19/19 351: 100%
77W aircraft fitted with Qsuites (A7-BEA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/Q/R/S/T/U/V/W/X, BAC,E,F,G,I,M,O,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z)
35Xs delivered since Q1 2018 are fitted with Qsuites.
At least 10x 359 (A7-ALY, Z,AME,F,G,H,I,J,K,L) have Q-Suites
At least 7x 77L (A7-BBA,B,C,D,E,G,I) have QSuites
tracking list (77W).
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bed
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bek
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bel
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bem
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ben
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beo
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bep
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beq
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ber
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bes
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beu
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bev
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bet
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bew
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-baf
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bex
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bee
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beb
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bef
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bax
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bag
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beg
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bei
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bam
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bej
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-baz
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bea
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bao
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bac
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bat
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bae
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bai
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bau
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bay
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-beh
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bec
tracking list (77L)
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bba
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbg
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbb
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbi
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbe
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbc
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-bbd
tracking list (359).
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-aly
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-alz
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ame
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amf
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amg
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amh
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ami
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amj
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-amk
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-aml
tracking list (35K)
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ana
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anb
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anc
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-and
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ane
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anf
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ang
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anh
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ani
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-anj
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ann
The Q Suite Master Thread
#316
Join Date: Sep 2015
Programs: LH SEN; BA Gold
Posts: 8,405
I would tend to say that you would need to book D, E, F and G. If all the seats in the middle can be part of a 4-seat "family room", I suspect that rows 1, 3 and 5 are flying backwards
#318
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: CBG
Programs: QR Gold, BA silver
Posts: 352
LAX can only be served with 772LR/380/359 by its distance. LAX traffic is not big enough to take a 380 over LHR/CDG/BKK. 359 is a bit tight in range so might not be feasible on certain days. To avoid constant substitution they will probably continue using 772 for a while.
However there's no plan currently on refurbishment of any existing metal, it is going to take a while when they will be reliable Qsuite service to LAX. Though I feel like JFK will get it fairly soon to up the competition.
#319
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 3,944
WorldLux Indeed seats E and F are backward facing and it is them that make up into the double bed whereas seats D and G are forward facing. There appears to be three 'family' cabins on this aircraft. (I assume a 24J 773).
#320
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 3,944
That would be pretty pointless as aircraft speed varies heavily on the wind direction and speed on longer flights.
Or less if the A35K is replacing the 77L on that route. Overall I would however stick with "at least 2 years". As of next Friday, they'll have 1 77W with QSuite leaving a whole bunch of aircrafts to be retrofitted.
And while AAB mentionned (IIRC) that the fleet will be retrofitted by the end of 2018 or early 2019, I suspect that they may not be able to make that deadline with the current bans potentially impacted how many aircrafts they can take out of service for a couple of months to fit the QSuite.
Or less if the A35K is replacing the 77L on that route. Overall I would however stick with "at least 2 years". As of next Friday, they'll have 1 77W with QSuite leaving a whole bunch of aircrafts to be retrofitted.
And while AAB mentionned (IIRC) that the fleet will be retrofitted by the end of 2018 or early 2019, I suspect that they may not be able to make that deadline with the current bans potentially impacted how many aircrafts they can take out of service for a couple of months to fit the QSuite.
My guess is that retrofitting will settle down to take 15 days, maybe even as low as 10 days, certainly not months!
#321
Join Date: Sep 2015
Programs: LH SEN; BA Gold
Posts: 8,405
And, as I've mentioned, if the bans are going to stay in place, QR may have to rescheduled some of the retrofits to a later date as their fleet is tied up in operations. I'm not sure how much reserves QR has, but I would imagine that increased flight times and distances may require more wide bodies to operate all flights.
#322
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 3,944
I would however remain careful when it comes to naming a date by which there are enough retrofits (and new deliveries) in the fleet to have good chances of ending up in one.
This crisis has upset their planning of the retrofits and no one would be surprised if it took longer than originally announced.
If my understanding is correct then QR can expect two or possibly three A359s in the next couple of months. With more before the end of the year, possibly including a A350-1000. Until then there could be problems with aircraft swaps etc. Just remember last year where there was a acute shortage of suitable aircraft. The timetable and aircraft schedulers were all on top of the problems and inspite of them managed to keep all routes flying.
I was aware that you knew the problems of starting this major project like this but I have to also think about those who do not have that knowledge. Thus I sometimes appear to be ignoring your wisdom.
#323
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Here
Posts: 1,907
My guess: 24 June 2017 QR007/8 DOH-LHR will be the first with A7-BED.
Also, interestingly, there are some quite complex rules entries around seat selection - but in essence, solo travellers as a guideline won't be assigned QUADS (they are blocked off), and it's generally for 3/4 pax families. Once a QUAD has been broken up (out of necessity - for example with a couple in the E/F seats), then the rest of the quad is unlocked and can be filled with individual travellers.
Some other notes I made:
They've also made 1A/2B last offered to allow airport flexibility to handle last minute requests. The other 18 windows and aisles are free for reservation as per the normal process.
The bassinet position is 11B/J, reduced mobility seats are 2/4/6/9 B and J.
All A/E/F/K's are backward facing, all B,D,G,J's are forward facing. Total 20 Forward/22 Backward.
Capacity:
77W: J42/Y312
High density 77W: J24/Y388
77L: J42/Y230 (probably going 3-4-3 in Y, from 217)
35K: J46/Y281
359: J36/Y247
Also, interestingly, there are some quite complex rules entries around seat selection - but in essence, solo travellers as a guideline won't be assigned QUADS (they are blocked off), and it's generally for 3/4 pax families. Once a QUAD has been broken up (out of necessity - for example with a couple in the E/F seats), then the rest of the quad is unlocked and can be filled with individual travellers.
Some other notes I made:
They've also made 1A/2B last offered to allow airport flexibility to handle last minute requests. The other 18 windows and aisles are free for reservation as per the normal process.
The bassinet position is 11B/J, reduced mobility seats are 2/4/6/9 B and J.
All A/E/F/K's are backward facing, all B,D,G,J's are forward facing. Total 20 Forward/22 Backward.
Capacity:
77W: J42/Y312
High density 77W: J24/Y388
77L: J42/Y230 (probably going 3-4-3 in Y, from 217)
35K: J46/Y281
359: J36/Y247
#324
Moderator: Qatar Airways
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: LHR/NCE/MIA
Programs: BAEC GfL & GGL, SQ Gold, Amex Centurion, Mucci des Chevaliers des Bons Mots et Qui Savent Moucher
Posts: 8,948
Thanks TGflyergirl.
I'll add the info to the WIKI, as it's great and helpful advice!
M
EDIT: Great mind think alike - thanks SanDiego1k
I'll add the info to the WIKI, as it's great and helpful advice!
M
EDIT: Great mind think alike - thanks SanDiego1k
#325
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: ZRH/SFO
Programs: A3*G - AZ CFP- HH DIA
Posts: 3,666
A7-BED absolved today it's first test flight over Switzerland as QR9903:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...a7-bed#db51ff6
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...a7-bed#db51ff6
#326
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 305
Also, interestingly, there are some quite complex rules entries around seat selection - but in essence, solo travellers as a guideline won't be assigned QUADS (they are blocked off), and it's generally for 3/4 pax families. Once a QUAD has been broken up (out of necessity - for example with a couple in the E/F seats), then the rest of the quad is unlocked and can be filled with individual travellers.
#327
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Here
Posts: 1,907
Interesting. I can see the logic given that you wouldn't necessarily want two strangers (or even two colleagues!) inadvertently booked into a cosy E/F. That said, it would be a shame if the quads were kept aside for groups of 3/4 only, and couples weren't normally allowed to book into E/F.
If they initially chose ABJK window aisle seats online during booking then all bets are off anyway. Hence to your point earlier - if you're a party of two and don't want the intimate EF seats - the selection for a normal assignment should be done online to cut that inadvertent cosy option off
Other notes: selecting quads can only be done by Airport ticketing offices/city ticketing offices and call centers. Travel agents need to call QR.
another thing I forgot to mention earlier : there is a provision to buy an Extra seat (EXST) - in which case you can only choose an E/F rear facing seat (which happen to be in the quads and are essentially treated as a couple)
#328
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 204
Seat map and other information regarding the new QSuites here:
I wonder how easy it will be to book a quad in reality. Though if you need to call QR to book the quad in the first place, perhaps this means that they might move couples who had already selected their seats within a quad in order to free up a quad for 3/4 passengers if needed?
I wonder how easy it will be to book a quad in reality. Though if you need to call QR to book the quad in the first place, perhaps this means that they might move couples who had already selected their seats within a quad in order to free up a quad for 3/4 passengers if needed?
#330
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Toulouse
Programs: TK*G
Posts: 283
Hmm so does that mean if I book a ticket for two, I cannot choose the E/F seats online by myself but I have to call QR hotline?