Organized resistance to WBI/invasive patdowns
Sep 4, 2010, 8:35 pm
#301
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The web sites should include a link to this video:
Sep 4, 2010, 9:47 pm
#302
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These sites appear to have text missing after the About bar. It starts mid-sentence.
Sep 5, 2010, 6:05 am
#303
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Originally Posted by MikeMpls
Links should include the ACLU: Airport and Watch List Harassment: Tell Your Story
Yes, absolutely.
Originally Posted by rove312
These sites appear to have text missing after the About bar. It starts mid-sentence.
"This site exists to educate the public regarding the health, privacy and property risks associated with Whole Body Imaging / Advanced Imaging Technology. It is provided free of charge, and we ask no recompense for these efforts. Our only goal is to allow the public to make educated, informed choices about their health and privacy."
Sep 5, 2010, 6:48 am
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I got a little bored today because it's Saturday, so I set up a couple of domains and put up a bit of the content generated here. All I did was give it some dress-up, include the PDFs that newhaven made, and stick it on the web.
http://dontscan.us
http://dontscan.me
Currently should be working in a lot of places, but DNS might not have propagated everywhere just yet.
Also on the way (but not updated in DNS yet):
http://airportbodyscan.org
And the 100$ is still available for publicity, education or legal defense.
http://dontscan.us
http://dontscan.me
Currently should be working in a lot of places, but DNS might not have propagated everywhere just yet.
Also on the way (but not updated in DNS yet):
http://airportbodyscan.org
And the 100$ is still available for publicity, education or legal defense.
Something that occurred to me: we don't want to lead people to believe that they have to use the words "opt out" - that they can say "no" or "no, thank you."
Sep 5, 2010, 7:03 am
#307
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Originally Posted by dontscan.me
You will need to be firm, and often will not be allowed to opt out unless you state in exactly these words "I opt out."
Originally Posted by dontscan.me
While you should be able to opt out using your own terms, such as requesting a pat down instead, or stating that you will not be photographed nude, remember that not all screeners will be respectful of your decision. They may continue to insist until you say "I opt out." In these cases it is up to the individual traveler to determine whether to stand firm or to use the TSA's preferred wording.
Sep 5, 2010, 7:15 am
#308
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Some of them will insist that unless you actually say 'I opt out.' that you have to go into the WBI. Rather than encourage people to get into protracted arguments, I included this text:
Because I agree that the TSA should not dictate the exact words that have to be used to opt out, I added the following text:
Because I agree that the TSA should not dictate the exact words that have to be used to opt out, I added the following text:
Sep 5, 2010, 7:50 am
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mozgytog -
Your link does not work:
TSA Installs Body Scanners at San Diego Airport
http://www.sdexaminer.com/news/tsa-i...ional-airport/
Your link does not work:
TSA Installs Body Scanners at San Diego Airport
http://www.sdexaminer.com/news/tsa-i...ional-airport/
Sep 5, 2010, 7:52 am
#310
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mozgytog -
Your link does not work:
TSA Installs Body Scanners at San Diego Airport
http://www.sdexaminer.com/news/tsa-i...ional-airport/
Your link does not work:
TSA Installs Body Scanners at San Diego Airport
http://www.sdexaminer.com/news/tsa-i...ional-airport/
Still trying to figure out why in my IE and Safari the articles are where they're supposed to be, on the right under the John Wild photo, but on Firefox it's showing up at the bottom. Anyone else seeing that?
Sep 5, 2010, 9:44 am
#311
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That is correct, but it looks OK either way. I wouldn't waste any time over it.
Sep 5, 2010, 12:40 pm
#312
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I'm using IE; I can't immediately tell which version. Comparing it to Chrome, instead of the About text being at the bottom of the page, it's covering up the section with the heading "Advanced Imaging Technology is a strip search." What first appears after the About section is the line "original. Do you consider this image family friendly?"
Sep 5, 2010, 12:46 pm
#313
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That's what I'm seeing, too. I'm also using IE.
Sep 5, 2010, 1:27 pm
#314
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I went thru SAN twice last week. Was told by the TSA person checking docs both times that I would be so lucky, because I would be using the new scanner. First of all, I don't know how they determine who goes thru the scanner or not. Mrs. EX did not have to go the first time, the second time they pulled her over. I told the screener that I refused to go thru the machine, and she screamed as loud as she could "need male ???? ( don't remember the name she used ), this guy is opting out.". Of course they double and triple checked everything, wiped my watch and checked for explosives, all the crazy things they do, hand searched my computer bag, a package of chopsticks went thru three pair of hands just to make sure....So to let you know, it takes much longer if you refuse the scanner, but well worth it, me thinks. Mrs. EX is an avid Japanese blogger and she went thru he system in order to be able to report about it.
By the way, I am in my late sixties, Mrs. EX in her early sixties and it continues to surprise me, how many times I see seniors, sometimes walking with the help of canes, being subjected to "extra care" by TSA, when younger and much more suspicious looking folk get to go right thru inspection. A couple of weeks ago we witnessed an old, old lady in a wheelchair, who attracted the attention of 5 screeners!!!
By the way, I am in my late sixties, Mrs. EX in her early sixties and it continues to surprise me, how many times I see seniors, sometimes walking with the help of canes, being subjected to "extra care" by TSA, when younger and much more suspicious looking folk get to go right thru inspection. A couple of weeks ago we witnessed an old, old lady in a wheelchair, who attracted the attention of 5 screeners!!!
Sep 5, 2010, 1:46 pm
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Back to "opt out" language - not asking you to change it again but just making a statement that it's very sad that TSA is now telling us what words we must use in order not to go through the scanner.