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Old Sep 3, 2010, 12:38 pm
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Originally Posted by mozgytog
My suggestions were for airportbodyscannerinfo or bodyscannerinfo since there are a lot of people who will be very very hesitant to click a link to something with the word 'nude' in it, and in fact it might be filtered for a lot of people who would want to look up this information while at work or a public library or anywhere that uses content filtering.

Re-direction could be a problem for people who have filtering or firewalls that looks for words like nude and blocks the site as potentially pornographic. While having people realize that the TSA's view of these naked images could very well be considered pornographic, having our message blocked by filtering makes it that much harder to get the word out.

I'm thinking about this in terms of appealing to the broadest possible audience, which includes Mr. and Mrs. Middle American Conservative whose internet Flanders-Filters are usually cranked up to 11.

How would you suggest we handle that?
I suggest we not worry about it. Most filters based their decisions on content, not on URL's. If the site is going to be blocked, it will be blocked regardless.

I have no trouble accessing it on our corporate intranet.

Originally Posted by IslandBased
I disagree. Exposing TSA behavior on multiple fronts could be an effective tactic.
While they are hopping on one foot, don't resist the inclination to kick it out from under them. Don't allow them a moment to catch their breath.
Are you volunteering? There are a couple other efforts in the works that I can't really discuss (those responsible will announce them in due time), but a comprehensive, head-on assault on TSA will take a lot more effort than some might think.

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Old Sep 3, 2010, 12:47 pm
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Originally Posted by MikeMpls
Are you volunteering? There are a couple other efforts in the works that I can't really discuss (those responsible will announce them in due time), but a comprehensive, head-on assault on TSA will take a lot more effort than some might think.
I can put in some time and effort.
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Old Sep 3, 2010, 12:54 pm
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Originally Posted by MikeMpls
I suggest we not worry about it. Most filters based their decisions on content, not on URL's. If the site is going to be blocked, it will be blocked regardless.

I have no trouble accessing it on our corporate intranet.

Then I offer the 100$ for any purpose in connection to educating the public about the TSA's un-American activities.

Advertising, printing, legal defense funds. I will help, in addition to handing out flyers and raising attention for nudeoscope.com
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Old Sep 3, 2010, 2:26 pm
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Attempts to post http://www.nudeoscope.com/ on PV have failed so far.

Seems the First Amendment has no meaning for PV, Blogger Bob and Pissy.
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Old Sep 3, 2010, 2:48 pm
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I sent a message to all the chapters of We Are Change. They are a fairly over-the-top 911 truther group. I am not of this flavor, however, they have performed several protests at airports and other places concerning nude-o-scopes in the past 6-9 months, and might be beneficial in our exposure of this matter.

I posted to them links to this forum, the Facebook page "All Facebook Against Airport Full Body Scanners", the latest from epic.org, and the nudeoscope web site.

If you visit the facebook site, there are many protest posters that were created by members of this group. While we don't agree with many of their beliefs, we are in full agreement about the matter of nude-o-scopes and grope-downs.^

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gi...17874&v=photos

The Boston Globe has a report about the Grope-Fest and they seem to think it's a good idea.
However the comments tell an entirely different story.

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ed...=all&csort=rec

^^

An article today from consumertraveller has a link to our nudeoscope web site.
WAY TO GO!^^

http://www.consumertraveler.com/today/tsa-under-fire/

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Old Sep 3, 2010, 3:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Wimpie
The Boston Globe has a report about the Grope-Fest and they seem to think it's a good idea.
However the comments tell an entirely different story.

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ed...=all&csort=rec

^^
I read your comment. ^

Earl hasn't kicked up yet.
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Old Sep 3, 2010, 4:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Wimpie
The Boston Globe has a report about the Grope-Fest and they seem to think it's a good idea.
However the comments tell an entirely different story.

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ed...=all&csort=rec

^^
Boston Globe = New York Times. Need I say more?
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Old Sep 3, 2010, 4:52 pm
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Originally Posted by Wimpie
An article today from consumertraveller has a link to our nudeoscope web site.
WAY TO GO!^^

http://www.consumertraveler.com/today/tsa-under-fire/
What a blistering writeup on the TSA! Sadly, it is all too correct.

Originally Posted by Consumer Traveler regarding fliers & nudescope.com
The effort is going viral and international with pamphlets showing up in the U.K., Australia, Japan and Italy.
Is our effort being paralleled or is the same flier being printed all over?
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Old Sep 3, 2010, 4:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Wimpie
An article today from consumertraveller has a link to our nudeoscope web site.
WAY TO GO!^^

http://www.consumertraveler.com/today/tsa-under-fire/
From the article:

A new “European” pat-down
TSA has coined another euphemism, European pat-down. Sounds like some sort of beauty treatment a Swedish massage or Vichy shower. No. Not quite. This is the name that TSA has applied to a police-style or prison pat-dow using palm forward and roughly pushing the hand into body crevices. I’ve been through scores, of not hundreds of pat-downs in Europe and haven’t been treated like by any European inspector.
I have NEVER ever in Europe or in Asia had anyone put their hand or fingers into a body cavity in an airport. Don't try and push the blame for this onto someone else TSA - this is your garbage that you created, not something that you imported from us. Remember, we are apparently too lax to run our own airport security and thus you need to make 'requests' from us to 'improve' our standards to your level.
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Old Sep 3, 2010, 5:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Wimpie
An article today from consumertraveller has a link to our nudeoscope web site.
WAY TO GO!^^

http://www.consumertraveler.com/today/tsa-under-fire/
Nicely done!!

Finally some momentum building on this issue.

The Nude-o-Scopes at FLL T2 were shut off and not in use today, so I missed my massage. I wonder why.
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Old Sep 3, 2010, 5:58 pm
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Originally Posted by exbayern
I have NEVER ever in Europe or in Asia had anyone put their hand or fingers into a body cavity in an airport.
Only thing that comes to mind is Günther in FRA, and he was nothing like the TSA's new groping procedure. And I think you mean crevices, not cavities.
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Old Sep 3, 2010, 6:00 pm
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I thought they were going for bulges, not crevices. Another day, another insight.
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Old Sep 3, 2010, 7:09 pm
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Originally Posted by N965VJ
I think you mean crevices, not cavities.
Neal: Del... Why did you kiss my ear?
Del: Why are you holding my hand?
Neal: Where's your other hand?
Del: Between two pillows...
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Old Sep 3, 2010, 7:28 pm
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
Nicely done!!

Finally some momentum building on this issue.

The Nude-o-Scopes at FLL T2 were shut off and not in use today, so I missed my massage. I wonder why.
I think it is important to identify those responsible for the Porno Viewers and the Sexual Assault Pat Down.

I would like full credit to go to Big "Perverted Sis" Napolitano, John "Grab the Nads" Pistole and all other TSA employees.

Seriously, these peoples names need to be attached to each and every document opposing the TSA.
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Old Sep 3, 2010, 8:17 pm
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Originally Posted by doober
A suggestion from one of the people to whom I sent the brochure:

Top left, front page:

What will your or your child's image look like?
Just use the other flap as the front.
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